Tampa City Council - meeting transcription detail (2024)



TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 3, 2024, 9:00 A.M.

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9:05:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
9:05:02AM AT THIS TIME, IF WE COULD HAVE -- JUST A MOMENT.
9:05:06AM BEFORE I PASS IT ON TO COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON FOR THE
9:05:10AM INVOCATION, INTRODUCE KEITH -- PASTOR KEITH BUTLER IS HERE
9:05:14AM TODAY.
9:05:15AM WE ACTUALLY MET RECENTLY, SIR.
9:05:16AM GOOD TO SEE YOU.
9:05:17AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, I'LL PASS IT ON TO YOU.
9:05:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:05:22AM KEITH BUTLER, HE'S BEEN IN THE MINISTRY FOR OVER 20 YEARS
9:05:30AM WITH 17 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AS PASTOR AT A BAPTIST CHURCH
9:05:35AM LOCATED IN MIAMI.
9:05:38AM HE IS NOW STARTING HIS 15th JOURNEY AT NEW SHILOH
9:05:42AM MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
9:05:44AM PLEASE WELCOME PASTOR KEITH.
9:05:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE
9:05:49AM INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:05:52AM PASTOR BUTLER, GO AHEAD, SIR.

9:05:56AM >> THANK YOU.
9:05:57AM WE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ALL OF US TO WAKE UP IN OUR BEDS,
9:06:06AM DRY STREETS KNOWING THAT THERE ARE SOME WHO WERE NOT AS
9:06:10AM FORTUNATE AS US.
9:06:11AM GOD, I KNOW THAT HAD THIS STORM BEEN EVEN A MILE TO ONE
9:06:19AM SIDE, THIS WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY.
9:06:21AM BUT I'M CONVINCED NOW MORE THAN EVER BEFORE THAT YOU ARE A
9:06:25AM HUGE FAN OF TAMPA, AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE SUCH A HUGE FAN OF
9:06:30AM YOU.
9:06:31AM WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BLESS OUR CITY, BLESS ALL OF OUR CITY
9:06:38AM MEMBERS, COUNCIL, MEN AND WOMEN.
9:06:41AM WE THANK YOU FOR OUR MAYOR.
9:06:43AM WE THANK YOU FOR HER PROFESSIONALISM AND HER INTELLECT.
9:06:48AM GOD, MOST IMPORTANTLY, I PRAY FOR THOSE WHO MAKE ALL OF THEM
9:06:52AM LOOK GOOD, INCLUDING OUR CHIEF OF POLICE AND CHIEF OF FIRE
9:06:57AM AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, AND THAT'S THE STAFF WORKING FOR
9:07:01AM THE MAYOR OF MIAMI-DADE COUNTY.
9:07:04AM I KNOW WHO DO ALL THE WORK AND I KNOW WHO GETS ALL OF THE
9:07:07AM GLORY.
9:07:08AM SO I PRAY FOR THE STAFF FAMILY THAT YOU WOULD BLESS ALL OF
9:07:13AM THEM AS THEY WORK DILIGENTLY TO MAKE ALL OF THE LEADERS LOOK
9:07:17AM GOOD.
9:07:18AM FINALLY, GOD, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD ALLOW ALL OF US TO LEAVE
9:07:22AM HERE BETTER THAN WE CAME, ALLOW US TO AGREE WITHOUT BEING
9:07:27AM DISAGREEABLE.

9:07:28AM AND GOD, LET US REMEMBER THAT YOUR WORDS SAID THAT THE
9:07:32AM GREATEST AMONG US ARE THOSE THAT SERVE.
9:07:34AM SO WE PRAY THAT WE WILL SERVE, IN JESUS NAME I PRAY, AMEN.
9:07:41AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:07:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:08:01AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:08:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANTED TO SAY REAL FAST, THANK YOU, SIR,
9:08:06AM I'VE HAD COMPLAINTS FROM CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE OF THE JEWISH
9:08:09AM FACE THAT WE'RE MEETING ON ROSH HASHANAH.
9:08:12AM I WANT TO PERSONALLY APOLOGIZE.
9:08:14AM WE ALL LOOKED AT THE CALENDAR AND WE MISSED IT.
9:08:18AM HUGE APOLOGIES.
9:08:19AM SOME FOLKS WERE UPSET BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T PARTICIPATE.
9:08:22AM EVERY YEAR WE USUALLY AVOID MAJOR HOLIDAYS AND WE JUST
9:08:26AM MISSED IT THIS YEAR.
9:08:28AM I PERSONALLY WOULD BE ONE THAT WOULD TAKE RESPONSIBLE FOR
9:08:31AM IT.
9:08:31AM WE'LL WORK HARD NOT TO DO IT AGAIN.
9:08:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:08:34AM I ABSOLUTELY AGREE.
9:08:35AM COUNCIL MEMBER -- SORRY, IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL CALL.
9:08:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:08:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:08:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:08:44AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.

9:08:46AM >> VIERA?
9:08:46AM MIRANDA?
9:08:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:08:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:08:49AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:08:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:08:51AM MR. SHELBY.
9:08:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS
9:08:54AM OF CITY COUNCIL.
9:08:55AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
9:08:58AM GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO TODAY'S MEETING.
9:09:01AM I WILL BE BRIEF WITH REGARD TO THE RULES OF DECORUM, WE
9:09:06AM WOULD ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT THE COUNCIL IN THE CONDUCT OF
9:09:10AM CITY BUSINESS TODAY BY AVOIDING ANY DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR OR
9:09:15AM NOISES OR COMMENTS, PERSONAL ATTACKS ON THE PUBLIC OR THE
9:09:22AM COUNCIL OR THE CITY STAFF.
9:09:24AM PLEASE NOTE THAT IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK DURING GENERAL
9:09:27AM PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE ARE SPEAKER WAIVER CARDS -- EXCUSE ME,
9:09:30AM SPEAKER CARDS OUT FRONT THAT WE ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT.
9:09:33AM AND PLACE IN THE BOX.
9:09:34AM ONE CARD PER SPEAKER.
9:09:36AM CARDS ARE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC
9:09:38AM COMMENT.
9:09:39AM EACH PERSON SUBMITTING A CARD WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO
9:09:42AM APPROACH AND SPEAK.

9:09:43AM A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES.
9:09:45AM PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY BECAUSE NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL
9:09:48AM NOT BE CALLED.
9:09:49AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING, USE THE
9:09:51AM SIGN-IN SHEET INSTEAD.
9:09:53AM AGAIN, IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, PLEASE SEE CITY STAFF.
9:09:56AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:09:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:09:58AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER
9:10:02AM 19, 2024 MEETING?
9:10:03AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:10:05AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:10:06AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:10:07AM AYE.
9:10:08AM I ECHO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON SAID.
9:10:14AM SHANA TOVAH TO THOSE THAT CELEBRATE, INCLUDING MY WIFE AND
9:10:16AM MANY OF MY FRIENDS.
9:10:17AM ALL RIGHT.
9:10:18AM WE'LL GO THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM
9:10:21AM TO THE AGENDA.
9:10:22AM I'M GOING TO BEGIN AFTER WE DO THIS, I'M GOING TO BEGIN WITH
9:10:27AM AN ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.
9:10:29AM CHIEF BENNETT IS HERE.
9:10:30AM THIS IS REGARDING THE STORM.
9:10:32AM THIS WE'LL DO RIGHT AFTER THE WE APPROVE THE AGENDA.

9:10:34AM I'LL ASK THE CHIEF HOW MUCH TIME HE NEEDS AND THEN WE'LL GO
9:10:37AM TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:10:38AM ITEM NUMBER 1, THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS TO A
9:10:41AM FUTURE DATE.
9:10:43AM I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA IS GOING TO HAVE THAT DATE.
9:10:46AM I'LL COME BACK TO THAT WHEN HE ARRIVES.
9:10:48AM HE WILL BE ARRIVING MOMENTARILY.
9:10:50AM HE'S IN TRAFFIC.
9:10:51AM ITEM NUMBER 14, I HAVE A MEMO FROM MR. CARL BRODY THAT WE
9:10:56AM WITHDRAW THIS ITEM.
9:10:57AM CAN I GET A MOTION TO THAT IF HE CAN GET?
9:10:58AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:11:00AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:11:01AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:11:03AM >> AYE.
9:11:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:11:04AM ITEM NUMBER 41, WE HAVE A MEMO FROM CHIEF BENNETT REQUESTING
9:11:09AM THAT THIS ITEM BE PULLED FROM CONSENT AND BE HEARD UNDER
9:11:12AM STAFF REPORTS.
9:11:13AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:11:15AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:11:18AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:11:19AM AYE.
9:11:20AM ITEM NUMBER 70, I ASK THAT THIS BE MOVED UP AND BE HEARD AT
9:11:24AM A TIME CERTAIN OF 11:45 A.M.

9:11:27AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:11:29AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
9:11:29AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:11:31AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:11:32AM AYE.
9:11:33AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:11:34AM ALL RIGHT.
9:11:36AM I'LL GO THROUGH STAFF REPORTS, ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.
9:11:39AM WE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT.
9:11:40AM WE'LL HAVE THAT AFTER WE APPROVE THE AGENDA.
9:11:42AM ITEMS NUMBER 76, WE HAVE -- YES.
9:11:51AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:11:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 76.
9:11:57AM $114 MILLION ITEM.
9:11:59AM WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF PRESENT?
9:12:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY HAVE A PowerPoint.
9:12:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES ON 76.
9:12:07AM HOW ABOUT WITH 77?
9:12:09AM THERE IS A MEMO TO CONTINUE THIS TO NOVEMBER 21st.
9:12:12AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:12:13AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:12:15AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:12:15AM AYE.
9:12:17AM ITEM NUMBER 77 HAS BEEN CONTINUED TO NOVEMBER 21st, 2024.
9:12:20AM ITEM NUMBER 78.

9:12:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE STAFF HAS ASKED US TO CONTINUE.
9:12:26AM I MOVE THAT WE CONTINUE IT TO -- THEY DIDN'T GIVE US A DATE.
9:12:31AM WHAT DATE?
9:12:34AM >> NOVEMBER 3.
9:12:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOVEMBER 3 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:12:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SORRY.
9:12:40AM NOVEMBER 7.
9:12:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE TO CONTINUE TO NOVEMBER 7.
9:12:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 78 MOTION TO CONTINUE 78 TO NOVEMBER 7
9:12:45AM UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:12:46AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:12:48AM YES, SIR.
9:12:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW, ANYBODY FROM
9:12:52AM HARBOUR ISLAND WATCHING THE MEETING AND INTERESTED IN THE
9:12:54AM HARBOUR ISLAND STREETLIGHT ISSUE, THIS THE ISSUE.
9:12:57AM STAFF HAS ASKED US TO MOVE IT.
9:12:59AM SO NOW MOVING TO NOVEMBER 7.
9:13:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
9:13:02AM AYE.
9:13:02AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:13:03AM ITEM NUMBER 79, THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE TO DECEMBER
9:13:06AM 5th.
9:13:07AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:13:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:13:09AM THIS IS MY MOTION.

9:13:10AM I ACTUALLY ASKED FOR THEM TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT ON
9:13:16AM OCTOBER 17 I BELIEVE.
9:13:21AM YES.
9:13:22AM OCTOBER 17, A WRITTEN REPORT.
9:13:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ITEM 79 TO
9:13:27AM OCTOBER 17.
9:13:28AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER -- AS A WRITTEN REPORT, FROM
9:13:31AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:13:32AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:13:33AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:13:34AM AYE.
9:13:35AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:13:35AM ITEM NUMBER 80, WE HAVE --
9:13:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I TALKED TO MS. FEELEY.
9:13:41AM SHE WOULD MUCH PREFER THAT WE -- SINCE THIS IS MONTHLY THAT
9:13:45AM WE JUST MOVE IT TO THE NEXT MONTH.
9:13:47AM SHE DID SAY THAT THE KICKOFF WAS AWESOME AND SHE JUST WANTED
9:13:52AM TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THAT, BUT SHE'S --
9:13:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE A DATE TO CONTINUE?
9:13:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S EVERY MONTH SO IT GOES TO JUST THE NEXT.
9:14:01AM WE'LL CANCEL THIS ONE, I SUPPOSE.
9:14:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
9:14:05AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:14:06AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:14:08AM ALL IN FAVOR?

9:14:09AM AYE.
9:14:09AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:14:10AM THIS IS REGARDING A VERBAL REPORT.
9:14:16AM MR. VASKE WILL BE PRESENT FOR 81, SO THAT IS A YES.
9:14:19AM ITEM NUMBER 82, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:14:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:14:22AM I SPOKE TO THEM ON THE STATUS OF GRAND CATHEDRAL, AND, NO,
9:14:28AM THEY HAVE NOT FIXED ANY OF THE VIOLATIONS, BUT THEY ARE IN
9:14:32AM PROGRESS.
9:14:33AM I HAVE A LONGER MOTION THAT WILL COME FOR THIS, BUT I JUST
9:14:37AM HAVEN'T HAD TIME THIS WEEK.
9:14:39AM WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON RECOVERY.
9:14:40AM SO THAT WILL COME LATER.
9:14:42AM SO FOR RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST GOING TO TABLE THIS.
9:14:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TABLE 82 BUT A MOTION UNDER NEW
9:14:48AM BUSINESS.
9:14:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NEXT WEEK.
9:14:50AM YEAH, RECEIVE AND FILE.
9:14:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE 82
9:14:54AM FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:14:55AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:14:56AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:14:57AM AYE.
9:14:57AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:14:58AM ITEM NUMBER 83, REQUEST TO CONTINUE TO DECEMBER 19.

9:15:01AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:15:03AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:15:04AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:15:05AM AYE.
9:15:05AM AND THEN THE WRITTEN STAFF REPORTS, ARE WE GOOD TO RECEIVE
9:15:09AM AND FILE 84, 85, 86, AND 87?
9:15:18AM CAN WE GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE 84, 85, 86?
9:15:22AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:15:23AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:15:24AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:15:25AM AYE.
9:15:26AM AND A REQUEST TO CONTINUE 87 TO NOVEMBER 7, 2024 BY COUNCIL
9:15:29AM MEMBER CARLSON, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:15:33AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:15:33AM AYE.
9:15:34AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:15:35AM IN REGARDS TO THE ADMINISTRATION UPDATE, WE'LL STILL HAVE
9:15:44AM IT, BUT THIS WILL BE WITH CFO DENNIS ROGERO.
9:15:47AM HE'S NOT AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.
9:15:49AM WE'LL HAVE MORE LATER.
9:15:50AM WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE STORM NOW.
9:15:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT ABOUT NUMBER 1?
9:15:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE IT HERE.
9:15:55AM NUMBER 1, WE HAVE A REQUEST BY TPD IN CONJUNCTION WITH
9:16:01AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, HE'S AWARE OF THIS, TO CONTINUE ITEM 1

9:16:05AM TO NOVEMBER 7.
9:16:06AM CAN WE GET A MOTION?
9:16:07AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:16:09AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:16:10AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:16:10AM AYE.
9:16:11AM LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA IS HERE.
9:16:15AM ALL RIGHT.
9:16:15AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM?
9:16:18AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:16:23AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:16:25AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:16:25AM AYE.
9:16:26AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:16:27AM IS THERE STEVE SIMON HERE?
9:16:29AM HE WAS RUNNING LATE IN TRAFFIC.
9:16:31AM WE'LL HOLD ITEM NUMBER 2.
9:16:35AM I'M SORRY.
9:16:35AM WE'LL GO TO AN ADMINISTRATION UPDATE REGARDING THE STORM
9:16:40AM NOW.
9:16:40AM CHIEF BENNETT, YOU'RE HERE.
9:16:41AM I SEE TPD IS HERE.
9:16:43AM IF YOU WANT TO COME UP, SIR.
9:16:44AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:16:46AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING.

9:16:47AM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:16:49AM GOOD MORNING TO OUR PUBLIC.
9:16:50AM AS CHIEF TRIPP AND I BELIEVE OUR EMERGENCY MANAGER COMES UP,
9:16:56AM I JUST WANT TO SAY FROM EXPERIENCE, 39 YEARS AGO WITH SEVEN
9:17:00AM MONTHS IN POLICE UNIFORM, I EVACUATED OVERNIGHT PALMETTO
9:17:04AM BEACH AREA FOR HURRICANE ELENA, NEVER CAME ONTO THE STATE.
9:17:10AM I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN NEARLY MY 40 YEARS OF
9:17:14AM SERVICE OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
9:17:16AM HOPEFULLY WE CAN GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE AND THEN STAFF IS
9:17:19AM HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON OUR CURRENT STATE OF
9:17:22AM PREPAREDNESS.
9:17:23AM OF COURSE, MITIGATION, RESPONSE AND RECOVERY.
9:17:26AM CHIEF TRIPP.
9:17:28AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:17:30AM BARBARA TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:17:34AM FIRST AND FOREMOST, I JUST WANT TO NOT ONLY THANK THE
9:17:42AM COMMUNITY BUT ALL THE LEADERS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WHO HAVE
9:17:45AM BEEN WORKING PRIOR TO THE STORM COMING, WORKING OVERNIGHT
9:17:49AM DURING THE STORM AND THE ONES WHO ARE CONTINUING TO WORK.
9:17:52AM FOR ALL OF THE MEN AND WOMEN OUT THERE AND ALL DEPARTMENTS
9:17:54AM WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA WORKING EXTREMELY HARD TO MAKE SURE
9:17:57AM OUR COMMUNITY IS PUT BACK TOGETHER AND KNOW THAT WE LOVE
9:18:02AM THEM AND DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO ASSIST THEM.
9:18:04AM WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO LET THE EMERGENCY MANAGER
9:18:08AM DIRECTOR GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT TOOK PLACE.

9:18:14AM JUST TO PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE AT EASE WITH A LOT OF THE THINGS
9:18:16AM THAT'S GOING ON AS FAR AS THE CONVERSATION, THE CITY OF
9:18:20AM TAMPA, OF COURSE, IS ALWAYS UNDER THE CHAPTER OF THE 252
9:18:23AM WHICH WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE RULES WITH HILLSBOROUGH
9:18:26AM COUNTY.
9:18:26AM WHEN THEY DECLARE SOMETHING, THAT'S WHEN WE PUT THINGS INTO
9:18:30AM ORDER.
9:18:30AM SO A LOT OF THE NEEDS AND THE REQUESTS THAT WE PUT IN OVER
9:18:33AM THE LAST WEEK HAS BEEN COMING THROUGH THE COUNTY AS WELL AS
9:18:36AM THE STATE.
9:18:37AM SO JUST WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR FOR HER LEADERSHIP AND, OF
9:18:40AM COURSE, HANGING OUT WITH US OVER AT THE EOC AND MAKING SURE
9:18:43AM THE MEN AND WOMEN AS WELL AS THE WHOLE EXECUTIVE STAFF, THE
9:18:46AM MAYOR'S EXECUTIVE STAFF WHO MADE SURE THAT OUR EMPLOYEES WAS
9:18:50AM TAKEN CARE OF AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.
9:18:53AM WITH THAT SAID, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JOHN ANTAPASIS TO
9:18:56AM GIVE US INFORMATION ABOUT THE STORM AND WHAT WE'RE DOING TO
9:18:59AM PREPARE.
9:19:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:19:00AM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:19:02AM >> JOHN ANTAPASIS, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR WITH THE
9:19:06AM CITY OF TAMPA.
9:19:07AM GOOD MORNING COUNCIL, PUBLIC, ADMINISTRATION.
9:19:09AM I'M HERE TODAY TO GIVE AN UPDATE OF WHAT TRANSPIRED WITH
9:19:13AM HURRICANE HELENE OVER THE LAST WEEK, WHAT THE RESPONSE WAS

9:19:17AM AND WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY CONTINUING TO DO TO SUPPORT THE
9:19:20AM COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THEIR RECOVERY.
9:19:21AM OBVIOUSLY, THAT HAS BEEN THE WORST STORM SINCE 1921 FOR THE
9:19:25AM CITY OF TAMPA.
9:19:25AM THE TARPON SPRINGS HURRICANE THAT HIT US.
9:19:27AM STORM SURGE OVER 7 FEET, UNPRECEDENTED SINCE THAT TIME IN
9:19:30AM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:19:30AM CONTINUING FEDERAL, STATE RESOURCES HAVE BEEN DEPLOYED
9:19:35AM THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE'LL GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF
9:19:38AM WHAT'S BEEN TRANSPIRING.
9:19:42AM I WANTED TO TALK QUICKLY ABOUT THE TIMELINE OF EVENTS.
9:19:43AM AS CHIEF TRIPP STATED, WITH STATUTE 252, THERE ARE EMERGENCY
9:19:48AM MANAGEMENT POWERS THAT ARE EMBEDDED WITH 67 COUNTIES IN THE
9:19:50AM STATE OF FLORIDA.
9:19:51AM LOCAL STATES OF EMERGENCY, EVACUATION ORDERS, THINGS OF THAT
9:19:55AM NATURE THAT DO FALL ON HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:19:57AM PLAY OUT THAT TIMELINE.
9:19:59AM PROTECTIVE ACTIONS WE TOOK BEFORE THE STORM OCCURRED,
9:20:01AM RESPONSE ACTIONS WE TOOK THAT NIGHT INTO THE MORNING TO SAVE
9:20:05AM LIVES AND PROPERTY AND THEN OUR PRELIMINARY DAMAGE
9:20:07AM ASSESSMENT AS WELL AS THE ONGOING RECOVERY EFFORTS THAT ARE
9:20:10AM GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY CURRENTLY.
9:20:12AM NEXT UP, I'LL GIVE US THE TIMELINE OF WHAT TRANSPIRED AT THE
9:20:18AM CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND THEN THE STATE OF
9:20:20AM FLORIDA.

9:20:20AM ON SEPTEMBER 21st, WE IN OUR SHOP AS OFFICE OF EMERGENCY
9:20:27AM MANAGEMENT, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE, WE'RE MONITORING TROPICAL
9:20:30AM SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
9:20:31AM WHEN JUNE 1st, NOVEMBER 30th HAPPENS, WE'RE MONITORING
9:20:34AM THE SYSTEM.
9:20:35AM WE'RE IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.
9:20:38AM WE STARTED GETTING REPORTS OF THE TROPICAL DISTURBANCE
9:20:41AM BEGINNING SEPTEMBER 21st.
9:20:43AM SEPTEMBER 24, TROPICAL STORM HELENE DID DEVELOP.
9:20:47AM THEN ON SEPTEMBER 24th, WE HAD ALSO TROPICAL STORM
9:20:52AM WATCHES.
9:20:53AM SEPTEMBER 25, STORM SURGE WARNINGS WERE ISSUED BY OUR
9:20:57AM NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE EXPECTING FIVE TO EIGHT FEET OF
9:21:00AM STORM SURGE.
9:21:00AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY DID ISSUE THAT LEVEL A EVACUATION ORDER
9:21:03AM AS WE WERE ALL IN A LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY AT THAT TIME.
9:21:06AM SEPTEMBER 26 IT HAD DEVELOPED INTO A HURRICANE AND IT WAS
9:21:10AM EXPECTED TO MOVE NORTH AND RAPIDLY INTENSIFY IN THE GULF OF
9:21:13AM MEXICO.
9:21:14AM AND IT WAS EXPECTED TO STAY ABOUT 140 MILES WEST OF THE CITY
9:21:17AM OF TAMPA AS A LARGE, MAJOR HURRICANE.
9:21:20AM IT DID MAKE LANDFALL AT APPROXIMATELY 11:10 P.M. NEAR PERRY
9:21:25AM FLORIDA IN THE BIG BEND AREA.
9:21:27AM SEPTEMBER 27, SIGNIFICANT SURGE IMPACTS BEGAN THROUGHOUT THE
9:21:30AM COMMUNITY THAT NIGHT INTO THE EARLY MORNING.

9:21:33AM LARGE-SCALE RESCUE RESPONSE EFFORTS WERE THROUGHOUT THAT
9:21:35AM NIGHT AND MORNING TO SAVE LIVES AND PROTECT PROPERTY.
9:21:38AM BEFORE THE STORM OCCURS, WE IMPLEMENT OUR EMERGENCY
9:21:44AM MANAGEMENT PLANS AT THE CITY OF TAMPA AS WELL AS OUR
9:21:47AM DEPARTMENT HURRICANE PLANS.
9:21:48AM MULTIPLE WEATHER BRIEFINGS THAT I KNOW YOU ALL ARE INCLUDED
9:21:51AM ON WERE DISTRIBUTED AS WELL AS OUR SITUATION REPORTS ON
9:21:54AM THOSE PROTECTIVE ACTIONS.
9:21:56AM THOSE DEPARTMENT PROTECTIVE ACTIONS WERE PUT IN PLACE,
9:21:59AM INCLUDING THEIR CHECKLIST TO PROTECT OUR ASSETS AS WELL AS
9:22:03AM OTHER RESPONSE EFFORTS BEFORE THE STORM.
9:22:06AM WE ACTIVATED KNOW YOUR ROLE FOR EMERGENCY POSITIONS FOR OUR
9:22:09AM EMERGENCY PERSONNEL TO WORK SUCH AS STAFFING, DEBRIS, AND
9:22:13AM OTHER ITEMS SUCH AS THAT.
9:22:15AM THE TAMPA FIRE RESCUE, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, HURRICANE
9:22:18AM OPERATIONAL PLANS WERE IMPLEMENTED AS WELL AS SANDBAGS
9:22:20AM BEFORE THE STORM.
9:22:21AM WE DISTRIBUTED 47,000 SANDBAGS BEFORE THE STORM TO THOSE
9:22:26AM RESIDENTS.
9:22:26AM AND WHEN THAT EVACUATION ORDER WAS MADE BY HILLSBOROUGH
9:22:29AM COUNTY, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PHOTO, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT
9:22:32AM DOES DOOR-TO-DOOR ANNOUNCEMENTS TO ENSURE THOSE RESIDENTS
9:22:35AM ARE NOTIFIED AS WELL AS OUR ALERT TAMPA NOTIFICATION SYSTEM
9:22:39AM AND PUBLIC MESSAGING TO ENSURE OUR RESIDENTS KNOW TO
9:22:42AM EVACUATE THOSE LEVEL A EVACUATION ZONES.

9:22:45AM WE ALSO MOBILIZED OUR EMERGENCY STAFFING AND EQUIPMENT.
9:22:49AM WE HAD TO STAFF MIDDLETON AS OUR EVACUATION SHELTER FOR THE
9:22:53AM GENERAL PUBLIC AS WELL AS ERWIN TECH FOR A SPECIAL NEEDS
9:22:59AM SHELTER.
9:22:59AM AGAIN THAT EVACUATION LEVEL A ORDER WAS MANDATED BY
9:23:02AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:23:03AM IN THOSE SHELTERS, WE HAD JUST OVER 1500 SHELTER CLIENTS
9:23:06AM THAT RODE OUT THE STORM THERE AS WELL AS 54 PETS.
9:23:09AM WE ALSO IMPLEMENTED OUR EMERGENCY FUEL PLAN, FEEDING PLAN,
9:23:13AM ACTIVATED THE CITIZEN INFORMATION CENTER, AND DID A ROBUST
9:23:16AM AMOUNT OF PUBLIC MESSAGING THROUGHOUT -- BEFORE THE STORM
9:23:19AM AND THROUGHOUT IT.
9:23:20AM THEN GOING INTO THURSDAY NIGHT, FRIDAY EARLY MORNING, AS THE
9:23:26AM SURGE BEGAN TO RISE IN MANY AREAS IN OUR COMMUNITY,
9:23:30AM HIGH-WATER RESCUES AND THE RESPONSE TOOK PLACE WITH TAMPA
9:23:34AM POLICE DEPARTMENT, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE, FLOOD STREET RESPONSE
9:23:36AM AND BARRICADES TO BLOCK OFF THOSE AREAS AS WELL AS GETTING
9:23:40AM INDIVIDUALS OUT OF THE EVACUATION -- THE SURGE AREA THAT DID
9:23:43AM NOT EVACUATE DURING THAT TIME.
9:23:45AM WE ALSO HAD OUR EMERGENCY DRONE DEPLOYMENT TO GET INITIAL
9:23:49AM ASSESSMENTS AT DAYLIGHT HOURS AND THEN DOWNED POWER LINE
9:23:53AM MITIGATION AND RESTORATION OF OUR PUSH TEAMS GOING
9:23:56AM THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO IDENTIFY THOSE DAMAGES THAT OCCURRED
9:23:59AM AND QUICKLY IDENTIFY DOWNED POWER LINES TO TECO WHO IS
9:24:03AM EMBEDDED WITH US AT THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER SO THEY

9:24:05AM CAN SEND OUT THEIR TEAMS TO MITIGATE THAT.
9:24:08AM WE COMPLETED OUR PRELIMINARY DAMAGE ASSESSMENT IN TWO DAYS.
9:24:15AM IT WAS A LOT OF GREAT WORK DURING THE SEASON ON PREPAREDNESS
9:24:18AM FOR THIS, AND IT ALL CAME TOGETHER WITH GREAT TECHNOLOGY
9:24:21AM PACKAGES AND TRAINING WE DID BACK IN MAY.
9:24:24AM BUT OVERALL, WE HAD 854 AFFECTED RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES,
9:24:29AM OVER 1500 MINOR.
9:24:32AM OVER 1900 MAJOR AND 34 DESTROYED RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS IN
9:24:36AM THE CITY OF TAMPA THROUGH OUR ASSESSMENT.
9:24:39AM WE ALSO HAD NUMEROUS PUBLIC BUILDINGS, PARKS,
9:24:41AM INFRASTRUCTURE, ALSO DAMAGED FROM THIS STORM.
9:24:43AM AGAIN, UNPRECEDENTED STORM SURGE, OVER SEVEN FEET IN SOME
9:24:47AM AREAS THAT CAUSED A LOT OF THIS DAMAGE.
9:24:49AM WE HAVE TO ROLL THESE NUMBERS UP TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AS
9:24:52AM PART OF STATUTE 252 AND WE SENT THOSE ESTIMATES IN
9:24:56AM YESTERDAY.
9:24:56AM WE'RE LOOKING AT AN ESTIMATE OF $77 MILLION IN PUBLIC
9:25:00AM DAMAGES CURRENTLY, WHICH WE'RE EXPECTING THAT TO GROW.
9:25:04AM AND THEN ON THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DAMAGES THAT WERE
9:25:06AM DOCUMENTED, WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER $500 MILLION IN PRIVATE
9:25:09AM DAMAGE FROM THIS STORM.
9:25:10AM ONGOING RECOVERY THAT'S CONTINUING ON.
9:25:16AM MAJOR DEBRIS CLEANUP IS UNDERGOING IN THE HARDEST HIT AREAS.
9:25:20AM DAVIS ISLANDS, PALMETTO BEACH, SOUTH OF GANDY, WESTSHORE
9:25:23AM AREA.

9:25:23AM OUR SOLID WASTE TEAMS ARE CONTINUING THROUGH THAT DEBRIS AND
9:25:26AM GETTING THAT COLLECTION SET UP AT OUR CERTIFIED FEMA DEBRIS
9:25:32AM SITES.
9:25:32AM VERY LARGE AREAS OF DEBRIS PUT TO THOSE AREAS.
9:25:36AM CONTINUING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ASSESSMENT AND THE REPAIRS ARE
9:25:38AM ONGOING FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS IMPACTED.
9:25:42AM AND FOR RELIEF EFFORTS, WE WERE ABLE TO GET WITH THE STATE
9:25:48AM IMMEDIATELY POST-STORM TO GET THESE ASSETS INTO THE
9:25:51AM COMMUNITY QUICKLY.
9:25:52AM WE HAVE COMFORT STATIONS SET UP AT DE SOTO PARK AND MARJORIE
9:25:56AM PARK OVER AT DAVIS ISLANDS AND PALMETTO BEACH.
9:25:59AM THIS MORNING SOUTH OF GANDY WE WERE ABLE TO STAND UP AT THE
9:26:02AM GANDY CIVIC CENTER.
9:26:03AM ALSO, A COMFORT STATION TO GET THE SUPPLIES CLOSER TO THE
9:26:07AM COMMUNITY DOWN IN SOUTH TAMPA.
9:26:08AM ALSO, IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE STORM, WE HAD MASS FEEDING
9:26:12AM OPERATIONS GOING ON WITH OUR PARTNERS AT SALVATION ARMY AND
9:26:15AM AMERICAN RED CROSS, AT DAVIS ISLANDS, PALMETTO BEACH, PORT
9:26:18AM TAMPA AND SOUTH OF GANDY IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE STORM.
9:26:21AM AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, WE HAVE BEEN DECLARED FOR INDIVIDUAL
9:26:24AM ASSISTANCE, WHICH IS DISASTER ASSISTANCE FOR HOMEOWNERS TO
9:26:27AM GET THEM SOME FUNDING IMMEDIATELY AS WELL AS PUBLIC
9:26:30AM ASSISTANCE TO GET REIMBURSEMENT FOR THOSE DAMAGES TO THE
9:26:33AM CITY OF TAMPA AND THEN ON THE BUSINESS SIDE, THE SMALL
9:26:36AM BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION DID DECLARE DISASTER ASSISTANCE AS

9:26:39AM WELL FOR THOSE LOW INTEREST BRIDGE LOANS TO GET THEM BACK UP
9:26:43AM AND RUNNING AS WELL.
9:26:44AM JUST WANTED TO END WITH OBVIOUSLY AN INCREDIBLE RESPONSE
9:26:48AM FROM ALL THE FIRST RESPONDERS THAT NIGHT.
9:26:50AM EVERYONE IN THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER TO SUPPORT.
9:26:53AM I JUST WANT TO ECHO, WE WERE LARGELY IMPACTED HERE, BUT THIS
9:26:57AM IS A REGION-WIDE IMPACT.
9:26:59AM PINELLAS COUNTY, PASCO COUNTY, WE'RE IN CLOSE CONTACT
9:27:01AM THROUGHOUT THE REGION ON THE MAJOR IMPACTS THERE AS WELL AS
9:27:04AM THE ENTIRE SOUTHEAST OF THE UNITED STATES GOING UP ALL THE
9:27:07AM WAY GEORGIA, NORTH CAROLINA.
9:27:09AM SO MANY OF THE FEDERAL AND STATE ASSETS HAVE BEEN STRETCHED
9:27:13AM DURING THIS, BUT WE HAVE BEEN IN CLOSE COMMUNICATIONS
9:27:15AM THROUGHOUT EVERY DAY WITH STATE, COUNTY, AND OUR REGIONAL
9:27:18AM PARTNERS TO GET AS MUCH SUPPORT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
9:27:20AM AND WE WILL BE THERE NONSTOP.
9:27:23AM OUR TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK TO GET WHATEVER
9:27:25AM IS NEEDED OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
9:27:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:27:29AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: AS JOHN STATED, THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN AS
9:27:35AM EFFECTIVE AS IT HAS BEEN WITHOUT OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND
9:27:38AM EVERYONE ASSISTING.
9:27:39AM SO WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE.
9:27:41AM WE HAD ADDITIONAL STAFF ON DUTY THAT DAY.
9:27:45AM WE ACTUALLY DEPLOYED OUR URBAN SEARCH AND RESCUE TEAM WHICH

9:27:49AM IS TASK FORCE THREE THAT WAS DEPLOYED ALONG WITH
9:27:51AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THAT WENT OVER AND HELPED OUR
9:27:53AM NEIGHBORING COUNTY, WHICH WAS PINELLAS COUNTY.
9:27:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:27:57AM I'LL OPEN UP TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF WE COULD SET THE
9:28:00AM FIVE-MINUTE TIMER.
9:28:01AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, YOU ASKED TO BE RECOGNIZED.
9:28:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, I WAS IMPACTED, COMPARED TO A LOT OF
9:28:07AM FOLKS IN TAMPA BAY TO A MINOR DEGREE BUT STILL IMPACTED BY
9:28:10AM THE STORM SIGNIFICANTLY.
9:28:11AM I JUST WANT TO SAY, THE YEAR AND A HALF THAT I'VE BEEN ON
9:28:15AM COUNCIL NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN MOST IMPRESSED BY
9:28:19AM IS THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE STAFF, THE EMPLOYEES OF THE
9:28:22AM CITY OF TAMPA.
9:28:23AM DAY IN AND DAY OUT THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, I CONSISTENTLY
9:28:26AM SEE THE STAFF OF THE CITY STEP UP TO THE PLATE WHEN WE'VE
9:28:30AM MET CHALLENGES.
9:28:32AM I'M GETTING CHOKED UP BECAUSE OF ALL THIS.
9:28:35AM HOW IMPRESSED I WAS AFTER THE STORM TO SEE SO MANY BOOTS ON
9:28:40AM THE GROUND.
9:28:41AM EVERYBODY RISING TO THE OCCASION.
9:28:42AM PEOPLE DOING DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS AND THEIR NORMAL JOB
9:28:46AM FUNCTIONS, STORM ASSESSMENTS, FROM THE VERY NEXT MORNING
9:28:49AM COMING OUT, SEEING THEM ALL OVER THE CITY.
9:28:52AM I THINK FROM OUR FIRST RESPONDERS TO OUR ATU EMPLOYEES,

9:28:57AM WHICH WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE ONE TODAY, TO EVERYBODY
9:28:59AM THAT'S IN WASTEWATER AND FRESHWATER.
9:29:02AM ACROSS EVERY BUSINESS LINE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:29:04AM EVERYBODY REALLY STOOD UP AND MET THE CHALLENGE.
9:29:07AM I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORK THAT ALL OF OUR CITY
9:29:10AM EMPLOYEES HAVE DONE FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:29:13AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:29:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:29:14AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:29:16AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:29:18AM I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE
9:29:23AM DONE IN THE LIGHT OF THIS HURRICANE AND REALLY APPRECIATE
9:29:27AM THE REPORT.
9:29:29AM I WANT TO SAY ALSO KUDOS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA SANITATION
9:29:33AM CREW.
9:29:34AM I READ A POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA FROM A CITIZEN THAT JUST
9:29:37AM REALLY TOUCHED ME.
9:29:38AM HE SAID KUDOS TO THE -- KUDOS TO CITY OF TAMPA SANITATION
9:29:44AM CREWS.
9:29:44AM THESE HARD WORKERS HAVE CLEARED SO MANY TONS OF DEBRIS, MUCH
9:29:48AM OF IT BY HAND OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS.
9:29:51AM HOPE, INSPIRING WATCHING OUR HOMES AND STREETS INUNDATED
9:29:56AM WITH SLUDGE WATER, FURNISHINGS, CABINETS, DRYWALL AND SO
9:30:01AM MANY OTHER THINGS.
9:30:02AM JUST WANTED TO CALL THEM WARRIORS THAT JUMPED IN TO CLEAN UP

9:30:05AM SO QUICKLY IN LIGHT OF EVERYTHING EVEN POSSIBLY THINGS
9:30:09AM HAPPENING IN THEIR OWN PERSONAL LIVES.
9:30:11AM THANK YOU TO ALL CITY EMPLOYEES.
9:30:16AM THE SETUPS AT DE SOTO, PALMETTO BEACH, JUST EVERYTHING THAT
9:30:22AM WE DO REALLY IS THE STAFF AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
9:30:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:30:29AM ANYBODY ELSE?
9:30:29AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, COUNCIL
9:30:32AM MEMBER VIERA.
9:30:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO WANT TO ECHO THE THANKS TO THE STAFF.
9:30:37AM YOU SEEM TO BE WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK.
9:30:40AM I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE THE AREAS THAT ARE HARDEST
9:30:42AM HIT ABSOLUTELY -- AND I JUST WANT TO ALSO MAKE SURE I
9:30:48AM RECOGNIZE SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WERE HIT THAT WE HAVEN'T
9:30:52AM TALKED ABOUT.
9:30:54AM I LIVE UP NEAR THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER AND VERY CLOSE FRIENDS
9:30:58AM LOST QUITE A BIT.
9:31:00AM FOLKS ALONG THE RIVER AS WELL, WHATEVER WE CAN DO FOR FOLKS
9:31:05AM UP IN THE NORTHERN PART, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT NO ONE IS
9:31:10AM TALKING ABOUT THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER OVERFLOWING TOO.
9:31:15AM NOT THAT YOU ALL AREN'T WORKING UP THERE, BUT JUST THEY
9:31:17AM WOULD LIKE A LITTLE -- WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO FOR THE FOLKS WHO
9:31:22AM WERE IMPACTED IN THAT AREA?
9:31:23AM BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF LOW-LYING AREAS -- AS THE STORM
9:31:27AM SURGE WENT, ONCE IT HIT THE DAM, IT HAD NOWHERE TO GO.

9:31:32AM IT CAN'T KEEP GOING.
9:31:33AM THEY HAD SERIOUS INUNDATION.
9:31:37AM I WANT TO APPRECIATE STAFF, BUT I REALLY ALSO WANT TO TALK
9:31:40AM ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.
9:31:43AM FOLKS CAME OUT FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS, AND IT HAS BEEN JUST
9:31:48AM OVERWHELMING THE OFFERS, THE HELP THAT WE'VE SEEN.
9:31:53AM AND I'M SURE THAT YOU'RE SEEING THE VERY SAME THING.
9:31:55AM I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH TO OUR COMMUNITY FOR
9:31:58AM COMING TOGETHER AND SUPPORTING YOU AS WELL AS THE STAFF.
9:32:02AM I KNOW ALSO THAT SOME OF IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT BECAUSE
9:32:05AM PEOPLE ARE TRAUMATIZED AND SO SOME OF THAT TRAUMA CAN COME
9:32:10AM ON TO STAFF.
9:32:11AM I KNOW THAT.
9:32:12AM BUT I WANT TO APPRECIATE HOW WELL YOU ALL HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
9:32:18AM LOOK PAST THAT AND JUST ABSOLUTELY HELP EVERY SINGLE PERSON.
9:32:22AM I WANT TO SAY TO STAFF AS WELL, JUST TO TAKE CARE OF
9:32:26AM YOURSELVES TOO.
9:32:27AM THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN KEEP GOING IS TO MAKE SURE
9:32:31AM THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON OURSELVES AS WELL.
9:32:34AM I, AGAIN, JUST WANT TO REITERATE HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THE
9:32:40AM SUPPORT.
9:32:40AM THERE WILL BE MORE TIME TO TALK ABOUT WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO,
9:32:45AM HOW ELSE WE CAN IMPROVE.
9:32:47AM BUT FOR RIGHT NOW IN THE THICK OF THINGS, I JUST WANTED TO
9:32:51AM SAY THANK YOU.

9:32:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:32:52AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:32:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:32:54AM AGAIN, WHAT YOU HEARD BEFORE, I'LL REITERATE THE SAME THING.
9:32:58AM YOU HAVE THE ATU THAT KEEPS TAMPA RUNNING.
9:33:01AM YOU GUYS THAT KEEP TAMPA SAFE.
9:33:03AM YOU HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY
9:33:05AM IS AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON LIKE YOURSELVES.
9:33:09AM WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, IN MY OPINION ANYWAY, IS SOMETHING
9:33:12AM DIFFERENT.
9:33:12AM I HAVE NEVER SEEN SO MANY STORMS FORM IN THE GULF OF MEXICO
9:33:15AM AS THIS YEAR.
9:33:16AM AND THEY START OUT AS A VERY LOW PRESSURE THING AND BECOME A
9:33:22AM MAJOR HURRICANE.
9:33:22AM THE ANSWER IS WHY?
9:33:23AM ONLY ONE RESOLUTION AS TO WHY.
9:33:26AM WE ARE TAKING NOT GOOD CARE OF THE ENVIRONMENT.
9:33:30AM AND WE ARE CAUSING OUR OWN DEMISE.
9:33:33AM THE WORLD.
9:33:33AM I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
9:33:35AM WE'VE BEEN VERY LUCKY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND YOU GUYS
9:33:38AM HAVE ALL DONE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND ALL THE DIVISIONS
9:33:41AM OF THE CITY, A FANTASTIC JOB IN MAKING SURE EVERYBODY WAS
9:33:43AM SAFE AND ALSO IN THE CLEANUP AFTERWARDS.
9:33:46AM HOWEVER, JUST THINK HOW LUCKY WE WERE THAT OUR NAME WAS NOT

9:33:50AM ASHEVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA.
9:33:52AM YOU SEE WHAT IT CAN DO TO DESTROY A COMPLETE CITY.
9:33:57AM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT KEEP US GOING AND WORKING HARD.
9:34:01AM BUT UNLESS WE CHANGE AND START BUILDING DIFFERENTLY, AND I'M
9:34:06AM NOT COMPARING OURSELVES TO ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD,
9:34:09AM BUT WHEN YOU GO TO A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY EVEN IN THE
9:34:12AM ISLANDS, THE OUTSKIRTS GET HAMMERED AND DON'T COME BACK AT
9:34:16AM ALL.
9:34:16AM THE HOUSES ARE BUILT WITH WHAT?
9:34:18AM CEMENT AND REBAR.
9:34:20AM THEY DO NOT LEAVE THE GROUND.
9:34:22AM THEY DO NOT BURN VERY EASILY.
9:34:25AM THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT TO CHANGE.
9:34:27AM I'M NOT SAYING IT SHOULD BE OVERNIGHT, BUT THIS WHOLE
9:34:30AM COUNTRY HAS GOT TO START LOOKING AT THE ENVIRONMENT AND
9:34:33AM MAKING SURE THAT IN THE FUTURE YOUR GREAT GRANDCHILDREN AND
9:34:36AM YOUR FUTURE GENERATIONS OF EARTH ARE WELL TAKEN CARE OF.
9:34:40AM WE HAVE NOT DONE A GOOD JOB.
9:34:42AM YOU GUYS HAVE DONE THE GOOD JOB BUT IN GENERAL, WE AMERICANS
9:34:45AM TAKE LIFE AND KEEP ON GOING.
9:34:48AM WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES.
9:34:49AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:34:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:34:50AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:34:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:34:52AM I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS.
9:34:53AM IT'S HARD TO FIND WORDS WHEN WE GO OUT AND WE SPEAK TO
9:34:59AM PEOPLE'S WHOSE LIVES HAVE BEEN DEVASTATED.
9:35:03AM YOU KNOW THAT BETTER THAN I DO BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN ON THE
9:35:06AM GROUND A BILLION TIMES MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
9:35:09AM WHAT WORDS DO YOU SAY TO SOMEBODY WHO HAS JUST LOST
9:35:12AM EVERYTHING?
9:35:12AM WHEN YOU GO IN LIFE, YOU HAVE ALL SORTS OF RESPONSIBILITIES.
9:35:15AM YOU'RE RAISING YOUR FAMILY, DOING YOUR JOB, PAYING YOUR
9:35:19AM TAXES, ALL SORTS OF RESPONSIBILITIES AND THEN SOMETHING LIKE
9:35:22AM THIS COMES.
9:35:22AM AND YOU GO -- IT'S HARD TO EVEN FATHOM.
9:35:28AM I ECHO THE WORDS THAT EVERYONE SAID, ALL OF OUR CITY
9:35:31AM EMPLOYEES, SANITATION, POLICE, FIRE, EVERYBODY.
9:35:35AM JUST AMAZING.
9:35:36AM OUR JOB IS TO SUPPORT YOU ALL AND THE WORK YOU DO TO
9:35:41AM ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
9:35:43AM AGAIN, THIS IS A STORM OF THE CENTURY.
9:35:45AM IT REALLY IS.
9:35:46AM AND TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH NOW, WHEN YOU GO
9:35:50AM OUT THERE ON THE GROUND AND YOU SEE WHAT FOLKS ARE GOING
9:35:54AM THROUGH, YOU TALK TO -- AND YOU TALK TO INSTITUTIONS THAT
9:35:57AM ARE THERE TO HELP PEOPLE THINK ABOUT OUR TEACHERS, OUR
9:36:00AM PUBLIC SCHOOL AND PRIVATE SCHOOLTEACHERS WHO ARE COMING BACK
9:36:04AM TO WORK.

9:36:04AM SOME OF THEM HAVE LOST EVERYTHING.
9:36:06AM THEY ARE DEALING WITH CLASSROOMS, 20, 30 KIDS, MANY OF WHOSE
9:36:12AM FAMILIES LOST EVERYTHING.
9:36:13AM FAMILIES WHO TOOK BIG HITS BEFORE THIS AND LITERALLY WENT
9:36:16AM THROUGH A HURRICANE WHERE THEY LOST SO MUCH.
9:36:18AM THINK ABOUT OUR CHURCHES.
9:36:19AM WE TALK TO CHURCHES, CHRIST OF KING, FRIENDS AT SOUTH TAMPA
9:36:23AM FELLOWSHIP, WHO ARE DEALING ON THE GROUND WITH SOME OF THE
9:36:27AM WORST THINGS.
9:36:27AM I THINK OF A NICE GENTLEMAN THAT A LOT OF US WENT OUT TO
9:36:31AM MEET WITH OUR OFFICES, TOM REYNOLDS, OVER AT PALMETTO BEACH
9:36:35AM WHO GUIDED US THROUGH THAT COMMUNITY AND TO HAVE SOMEBODY
9:36:39AM WHO JUST LOST EVERY MATERIAL POSSESSION THEY HAVE AND YOU
9:36:43AM TRY TO GIVE THEM WORDS OF COMFORT, WHERE DO YOU GO FROM
9:36:45AM THAT?
9:36:46AM AND TO HAVE THEM REACH OUT TO YOU AND GO, LOOK, I'M NOT USED
9:36:49AM TO ASKING FOR HELP.
9:36:51AM THIS IS WHAT I NEED.
9:36:53AM IT'S STUFF THAT WILL PROBABLY TAKE, I THINK, YEARS FOR
9:36:56AM PEOPLE TO PROCESS THROUGH.
9:36:58AM AND SOMETHING THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID IS VERY RIGHT,
9:37:01AM WHICH IS TWO THINGS.
9:37:01AM NUMBER ONE, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN IMPROVE AS
9:37:04AM A CITY ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS
9:37:08AM NOT NORMAL COURSE AND SCOPE OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THE

9:37:12AM CITY OF TAMPA.
9:37:13AM SO, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW FUTURE
9:37:16AM COUNCILS, FUTURE ADMINISTRATIONS, ET CETERA, CAN BUILD ON
9:37:19AM THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE.
9:37:20AM THE WORK THAT WE'RE SALUTING EVERYBODY FOR.
9:37:22AM I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
9:37:23AM WHAT WE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN DO INDIVIDUALLY IN THE FUTURE
9:37:28AM AND ALSO TO TALK ABOUT ALL AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED.
9:37:31AM YOU GUYS ARE OUT THERE AT EVERY SINGLE AREA THAT'S BEEN
9:37:34AM IMPACTED BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FRIENDS IN THE MEDIA AND
9:37:37AM OTHER PLACES TALK ABOUT ALL COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN
9:37:39AM IMPACTED.
9:37:40AM I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE AT PALMETTO BEACH, DAVIS ISLANDS,
9:37:44AM WESTSHORE, ALL OVER, AND IT'S -- AGAIN, IT'S DEVASTATING.
9:37:49AM YOU TRY TO HAVE WORDS FOR PEOPLE.
9:37:51AM YOU TRY TO PRAY FOR THEM.
9:37:53AM YOU TRY TO THINK ABOUT THEM.
9:37:55AM YOU TRY TO GO OUT THERE AND ROLL UP YOUR SLEEVES AND WORK.
9:37:58AM AND TO SEE THE INSTITUTIONS ON THE GROUND, GROUPS LIKE
9:38:01AM FEEDING TAMPA BAY, OPERATION BARBEQUE RELIEF, DIFFERENT
9:38:04AM CHURCHES, MOSQUES, SYNAGOGUES, HOUSES OF WORSHIP WHO ARE --
9:38:09AM JUST YESTERDAY I WAS WITH A CHURCH AND THE PASTORS, THEY
9:38:12AM LOST TONS OVER AT DAVIS ISLAND AND THEY ARE OUT THERE
9:38:16AM HELPING PEOPLE.
9:38:16AM BECAUSE THEY ARE CHRISTIANS AND THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE.

9:38:20AM AGAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE WORDS, BUT YOU TRY TO HAVE WORDS.
9:38:25AM AGAIN THANK YOU GUYS, THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY IN THE CITY OF
9:38:27AM TAMPA.
9:38:28AM ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES.
9:38:30AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, STATE OF FLORIDA, EVERYWHERE, EVERYBODY
9:38:32AM COMING TOGETHER TO HELP FOLKS OUT.
9:38:34AM SO JUST FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, THANK YOU GUYS.
9:38:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:38:38AM ANYBODY ELSE?
9:38:39AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:38:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I WANT TO ECHO THANKS TO ALL THE
9:38:44AM STAFF.
9:38:44AM I KNOW FOLKS DIDN'T GET MUCH SLEEP IF ANY AND WORKED WITHOUT
9:38:49AM SHOWERS AND OTHER THINGS WHILE THEIR OWN HOMES AND FAMILIES
9:38:52AM WERE BEING AFFECTED.
9:38:53AM THANKS TO THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND ALL THE OTHER FOLKS WHO
9:38:56AM WORKED SO HARD.
9:38:58AM I THINK WE AS A COMMUNITY CAN NEVER REALLY SAY THANK YOU
9:39:00AM ENOUGH.
9:39:00AM THANK YOU ALSO TO THE NEIGHBORS HELPING NEIGHBORS.
9:39:06AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES AMERICA GREAT IS THAT PEOPLE
9:39:09AM VOLUNTEER FOR THINGS TO HELP EACH OTHER.
9:39:15AM AND WE SAW THAT ON THAT MASSIVE SCALE HERE.
9:39:18AM TAMPA IN THE LAST HUNDRED YEARS OR SO NEVER FACED ANY
9:39:23AM RECOVERY EFFORT LIKE THIS.

9:39:24AM WE SEE PICTURES AND VIDEOS OF OTHER CITIES THAT LIKE
9:39:29AM NEW ORLEANS THAT GET HIT AND IT'S SURREAL DRIVING THROUGH
9:39:34AM SOUTH TAMPA.
9:39:35AM SOME RICH NEIGHBORHOODS, SOME POOR NEIGHBORHOODS.
9:39:37AM AND THE DEVASTATION IS UNBELIEVABLE.
9:39:41AM AND TO SEE ONE STREET THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM ANOTHER BY THE
9:39:45AM LUCK OF WHERE THE WATER FLOWED.
9:39:47AM I WAS ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES THAT IT DIDN'T FLOW MY WAY.
9:39:51AM WE TRIED TO HELP OTHER FOLKS AS WELL.
9:39:53AM AS MY COLLEAGUES SAID, THERE IS A LOT OF TIME TO TALK ABOUT
9:39:56AM WHAT WE CAN DO DIFFERENTLY NEXT TIME.
9:39:58AM ONE THING MY CONSTITUENTS ASKED IS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A
9:40:01AM FIRE TRUCK ON DAVIS ISLAND.
9:40:03AM WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.
9:40:05AM I DON'T WANT TO OPEN UP THAT.
9:40:06AM I STARTED GETTING PHONE CALLS AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING BECAUSE
9:40:09AM THE ONE HOUSE THAT HAD THE TESLA IN IT CAUGHT ON FIRE.
9:40:13AM WE NEED TO LOOK AT REGULATIONS LIKE -- HATE TO THROW THIS
9:40:20AM OUT -- BUT DO WE MANDATE IF WE THINK THERE IS A STORM SURGE
9:40:23AM THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO MOVE THEIR BATTERY-POWERED DEVICES OUT
9:40:26AM OF THE GROUND LEVEL?
9:40:27AM WE HAVE TO SERIOUSLY THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE EVEN IF PEOPLE
9:40:30AM EVACUATED, IF YOU GET INUNDATED WITH SALTWATER AND BUILDINGS
9:40:34AM CATCH ON FIRE BECAUSE OF A BATTERY OPERATED BICYCLE OR
9:40:37AM MOTORCYCLE OR CAR, IN DAVIS ISLANDS, ONE VERY EXPENSIVE

9:40:42AM HOUSE THAT BURNED DOWN BUT HAD A LOT OF EXPENSIVE HOUSES
9:40:45AM AROUND IT.
9:40:46AM THE OTHER THING THAT'S HAPPENING, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE A
9:40:49AM LOT OF VERY WEALTHY FAMILIES IN SOUTH TAMPA, THERE ARE A LOT
9:40:53AM OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR GENERATIONS, ESPECIALLY
9:40:56AM THE HISTORIC BLACK COMMUNITY THAT WAS FORMERLY LONGSHOREMEN
9:41:01AM IN PORT TAMPA.
9:41:02AM MANY OF THOSE FAMILIES HAVE HAD HOUSES FOR MULTIPLE
9:41:04AM GENERATIONS.
9:41:05AM BECAUSE THEY OWN THE HOUSES, THEY DON'T HAVE INSURANCE MANY
9:41:08AM OF THEM.
9:41:08AM BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO LOSE A LOT OF THE HOUSING STOCK.
9:41:11AM THE EASIEST THING TO DO IS SOMEONE WILL TEAR DOWN ONE OF THE
9:41:14AM OLD HOUSES AND BUILD A NEW McMANSION.
9:41:17AM THE MISSING MIDDLE IS IMPORTANT, DISPLACING SENIORS AND
9:41:21AM OTHERS WHO WILL BE DISPLACED.
9:41:23AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTIONS ARE ON THAT, BUT WE'VE GOT
9:41:25AM TO REALLY PAY ATTENTION.
9:41:26AM WHATEVER WE THINK OF HOUSING AND THE SHORTAGE, WE'VE GOT TO
9:41:29AM MAKE SURE WE PROTECT THE MISSING MIDDLE THAT WE HAVE.
9:41:31AM THANK YOU TO STAFF, ESPECIALLY CHIEF OF STAFF FOR WORKING
9:41:34AM WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN PORT TAMPA AND BAY SIDE WEST AND
9:41:37AM OTHERS WHO REALLY WANTED TO HAVE A COMFORT STATION NEAR BY.
9:41:42AM STAFF SPENT HALF A DAY OR MORE YESTERDAY AND STARTED AT 7:00
9:41:45AM THIS MORNING GOING TO THE GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION, PROVIDING

9:41:49AM SERVICES.
9:41:50AM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
9:41:50AM THERE'S TRASH PICKUP ON A MASSIVE SCALE.
9:41:55AM PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE FAMILY'S HOUSE GOODS MIGHT FILL UP A
9:41:59AM WHOLE TRUCK AND THEN THE TRUCK HAS TO GO AND COME BACK.
9:42:02AM LARRY WASHINGTON AND HIS TEAM WERE FANTASTIC.
9:42:04AM THERE WERE NEIGHBORHOODS, LOWER INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS IN
9:42:06AM SOUTH TAMPA THAT FELT LIKE THEY WERE NEGLECTED.
9:42:09AM LARRY DEPLOYED PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY AND WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE
9:42:12AM PICTURES AND TELL PEOPLE THEY ARE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY
9:42:14AM ARE WORKING WITH YOU TOO.
9:42:15AM WE HAVE EQUITY IN THE TRASH PICKUP.
9:42:18AM HAD A BIG DIFFERENCE IN BOOSTING THE MORALE OF PEOPLE.
9:42:21AM ONE OF THE THINGS I MENTIONED BEFORE AFTER HURRICANES, WE
9:42:23AM HAVE TO THINK OF THE ROLE OF COUNCIL.
9:42:25AM WE NEVER HAD A RECOVERY EFFORT LIKE THIS, BUT WE NEED TO
9:42:27AM THINK ABOUT THE ROLE OF COUNCIL.
9:42:29AM THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR FOR CALLING ME LAST NIGHT.
9:42:31AM HAD A LONG CONVERSATION WITH HER ABOUT IT AND CHIEF OF STAFF
9:42:33AM AND ANDREA.
9:42:34AM AN EXAMPLE, 1-800 CALL CENTER THAT HAS PRESUMABLY A SCRIPT
9:42:40AM THAT THEY CAN TELL PEOPLE WHAT TO DO, HOW TO GET THEM
9:42:43AM RESOURCES.
9:42:43AM WE SHOULD HAVE THAT SCRIPT WITH CITY COUNCIL AND OUR STAFF.
9:42:46AM WE SHOULD PROBABLY BE TRAINED IN IT.

9:42:47AM I'VE WORKED ON A LOT OF MAJOR, MAJOR RECOVERY EFFORTS IN
9:42:50AM OTHER CITIES, AND THERE SHOULD BE A STANDARD TALKING POINTS
9:42:53AM SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
9:42:55AM FAQ.
9:42:56AM IF WE'RE DEPLOYED ANSWERING QUESTIONS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE
9:42:58AM BEEN HURT IN THE COMMUNITY, WE SHOULDN'T JUST GIVE THEM AN
9:43:01AM 800 NUMBER, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS TO
9:43:04AM THE EXTENT WE CAN.
9:43:05AM ALL OF US HAVE BEEN OUT THERE SEEING THAT.
9:43:07AM WE NEED TO WORK ON THE RECOVERY APPARATUS.
9:43:10AM WE HAVE A WELL-OILED APPARATUS TO TALK ABOUT A HURRICANE
9:43:14AM COMING AND TALK ABOUT CLEANING UP, BUT WHAT WE NEED IS A
9:43:17AM RECOVERY APPARATUS.
9:43:18AM WE ALSO NEED TO TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY, RAISING THE LEVEL
9:43:20AM OF HOMES, MAYBE PUTTING UP BARRIERS, OTHER THINGS.
9:43:24AM AND I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE A WORKSHOP ABOUT THAT.
9:43:26AM LAST TWO THINGS, ONE OF THE CITIZENS THAT I WAS HELPING, SHE
9:43:30AM HAS A HUNDRED-YEAR-OLD HOME, AND SHE HAS A CHILD WITH
9:43:36AM DISABILITIES.
9:43:37AM SHE HAD A VERY EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT FOR HER CHILD, ALL OF IT
9:43:41AM WAS WIPED OUT.
9:43:41AM THE CHILD CAN'T STAY ON THE GROUND FLOOR BECAUSE THE AREA IS
9:43:45AM DAMAGED.
9:43:46AM SHE HAS TO PHYSICALLY CARRY THE CHILD UP TO THE TOP FLOOR.
9:43:50AM I WANT TO THANK RAQUEL FOR HELPING HER YESTERDAY.

9:43:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:43:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE NEED TO WORK ON ALL THE ISSUES
9:43:55AM AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
9:43:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:43:57AM THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY.
9:43:58AM EVERYBODY THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED.
9:44:04AM WE HAVEN'T SEEN THIS SINCE 1921, AS YOU MENTIONED.
9:44:07AM AND IT'S BEEN OVER A CENTURY.
9:44:09AM WE TALKED ABOUT THIS OVER THE YEARS, WHEN IRMA CAME THROUGH
9:44:12AM IN 2017, I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE STORM BECAUSE OF
9:44:14AM THE MAGNITUDE.
9:44:15AM A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T EXPECT THIS BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN SO
9:44:18AM MANY CLOSE CALLS, IT'S BAYSHORE GETS WATER.
9:44:22AM BUT NOT LIKE THIS.
9:44:23AM WEST TAMPA AT THE RIVER, HOUSES ARE RUINED.
9:44:27AM DAVIS ISLANDS, PORT TAMPA.
9:44:30AM IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.
9:44:32AM IT'S A WAR ZONE IN CERTAIN AREAS.
9:44:35AM I LEFT THE HOUSE WHEN THE SUN CAME UP FRIDAY MORNING TO GO
9:44:38AM OUT INTO THE AREAS THAT I COULD.
9:44:39AM DAVIS ISLAND WASN'T OPEN YET.
9:44:41AM BAYSHORE STILL HAD WATER.
9:44:43AM GOING DOWN SOUTH WESTSHORE TO GANDY WE ENDED UP GOING THERE
9:44:48AM LATER IN THE DAY.
9:44:49AM DAVIS ISLAND WAS IN THE EVENING.

9:44:51AM MY AIDE AND I WERE IN PALMETTO BEACH YESTERDAY.
9:44:54AM GENTLEMAN, TOM REYNOLDS WHO WAS MENTIONED, HIS FAMILY BEEN
9:44:59AM PALMETTO BEACH OVER A HUNDRED YEARS.
9:45:00AM TWO MONTHS AGO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HIS FAMILY HISTORY
9:45:03AM GOING BACK TO THE FOUNDING OF YBOR CITY.
9:45:05AM WE HAD CALLS YESTERDAY FROM SOUTH OF GANDY.
9:45:10AM MULTIPLE PEOPLE OVER THE DAYS.
9:45:11AM CALLED THE MAYOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO TO DO SOMETHING SOUTH
9:45:14AM OF GANDY.
9:45:14AM MENTIONED THEY WERE OPENING UP AS OF 7 A.M. AT THE GANDY
9:45:17AM CIVIC CENTER.
9:45:18AM TALKED TO CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:45:19AM CHIEF OF STAFF HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL IN KEEPING US UPDATED.
9:45:22AM CONTINUOUS COMMUNICATION, NONSTOP.
9:45:24AM I TRIED TO DO WHAT I COULD VIA SOCIAL MEDIA TO SHARE
9:45:28AM INFORMATION.
9:45:29AM IF IT WAS A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION LIKE LOWE'S SOUTH DALE
9:45:33AM MABRY, THEY WERE HELPING.
9:45:35AM AMERICAN RED CROSS, NUMBERS TO CALL, SOLID WASTE PICKUP,
9:45:38AM WHAT THE CITY WAS DOING.
9:45:41AM TRYING TO DO SOMETHING AGAIN BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BEAT MADAM
9:45:44AM CHAIR.
9:45:44AM WHEN YOU GET A CATEGORY 3, 4 HURRICANE AND YOU GET STORM
9:45:47AM SURGE, IT'S TERRIFYING.
9:45:49AM I SAW ONE VIDEO FROM A FRIEND OF OURS, AND IT WAS THE WATER

9:45:53AM HAS REACHED THE FRONT OF MY PROPERTY.
9:45:55AM THE WATER HAS REACHED THE FRONT OF MY STEPS.
9:45:57AM THE WATER IS ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
9:45:59AM THE LAST PHOTO WAS HER TAKING A PHOTO FROM THE STAIRCASE AND
9:46:03AM THE WHOLE BOTTOM FLOOR IS FLOODED UP TO FOUR FEET.
9:46:06AM THAT WAS JUST ONE HOUSE.
9:46:07AM AND THERE ARE SO MANY.
9:46:08AM THE HOUSE IN DAVIS ISLAND THAT WAS BURNED DOWN.
9:46:10AM WE WENT BY THERE.
9:46:11AM THE MERRY MAKERS CLUB IN DAVIS ISLAND, THE BUILDING HAS BEEN
9:46:15AM THERE A HUNDRED YEARS.
9:46:15AM WHEN I WAS THERE, THEY SAID WE'VE BEEN PUMPING FOR THREE
9:46:18AM HOURS.
9:46:19AM I HAVE VIDEOS.
9:46:19AM THE WHOLE GROUND IS SATURATED.
9:46:21AM AND THEN THE SADDEST THING IS EVERYBODY'S BELONGINGS ON THE
9:46:26AM FRONT CURB.
9:46:26AM EITHER MATTRESSES, SOFAS, CHILDREN'S TOYS, AND PEOPLE
9:46:30AM LOOKING AND FEELING DEFEATED.
9:46:32AM PEOPLE SITTING OUT THERE WITHOUT ELECTRICITY.
9:46:34AM THIS IS FRIDAY.
9:46:35AM AT DAYBREAK.
9:46:38AM RICH PEOPLE, POOR PEOPLE, MIDDLE-CLASS PEOPLE.
9:46:40AM I'VE TALKED TO SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WERE AFFECTED.
9:46:43AM AND THIS WAS MINOR.

9:46:44AM THIS WAS A MINOR STORM SURGE.
9:46:46AM IT WAS AWFUL, BUT IT COULD BE A LOT WORSE.
9:46:50AM AGAIN, WHEN WE WERE HIT IN 1921, DAVIS ISLANDS DIDN'T EXIST
9:46:54AM LIKE IT DID TODAY.
9:46:55AM IT WASN'T DEVELOPED.
9:46:57AM PALMETTO BEACH WAS THERE.
9:46:58AM PORT TAMPA CITY WAS THERE.
9:46:59AM THE HOUSES ALONG THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER IN WEST TAMPA, THEY
9:47:02AM DIDN'T EXIST YET.
9:47:03AM NOW THERE IS THIS DEVELOPMENT.
9:47:04AM NOT TO GET INTO OTHER THINGS, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF
9:47:10AM DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES TO THIS COMMUNITY.
9:47:11AM WE SEE HOW BUSY OUR CASES ARE WITH REZONING AND SO MANY
9:47:15AM THINGS.
9:47:15AM WE HAVE TO BE VERY MINDFUL AND VERY CAREFUL.
9:47:19AM A WORD OF CAUTION TO DEVELOPERS.
9:47:21AM WE ARE ALONG THE WATER.
9:47:22AM LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED.
9:47:24AM IT'S CATASTROPHIC DAMAGE.
9:47:25AM I SAW A NUMBER OF HALF A BILLION DOLLARS IN DAMAGE.
9:47:29AM AGAIN, AS WE MOVE FORWARD AS A CITY IN DEVELOPING, WE HAVE
9:47:33AM TO BE VERY CAREFUL.
9:47:34AM BECAUSE LOOK AT THE DAMAGE.
9:47:35AM AGAIN, EVERYBODY.
9:47:37AM EVERYBODY HAS BEEN AFFECTED.

9:47:38AM IT'S NOT JUST THE RICH, THE POOR, IT'S YOU CAN'T -- WHEN THE
9:47:42AM STORM SURGE COMES IN AND THERE'S NO LIGHT AND THERE'S NO
9:47:45AM POWER AND YOU JUST HEAR THE RUSHING OF THE WATER, IT'S
9:47:49AM TERRIFYING.
9:47:50AM THE PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO, YOU FEEL HELPLESS.
9:47:52AM WHEN DOES THE WATER STOP AND WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?
9:47:55AM AGAIN, THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
9:47:57AM I KNOW YOU'RE EXHAUSTED BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN WORKING NONSTOP
9:48:00AM AROUND THE CLOCK.
9:48:01AM YOU AND THE TEAM AND ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
9:48:03AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS UPDATE.
9:48:04AM THANK YOU.
9:48:05AM ALL RIGHT.
9:48:07AM WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE ATU PRESENTATION AND THEN TO ITEM
9:48:11AM NUMBER 3, MR. STEVE SIMON IS HERE.
9:48:13AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:48:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR.
9:48:51AM BEFORE I START, I WANT TO ALSO MENTION AS WE TALKED ABOUT
9:48:56AM THE JEWISH HOLIDAY, ALSO A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE WE MEET
9:48:59AM AGAIN, OCTOBER 7, WE'LL HAVE COME A YEAR ANNIVERSARY SINCE
9:49:02AM THE ATTACKS ON ISRAEL AND HOW DEEPLY I KNOW SO MANY FOLKS IN
9:49:08AM OUR COMMUNITY WERE IMPACTED WITH THEIR LOVED ONES AND THAT
9:49:12AM OVER A HUNDRED HOSTAGES ARE STILL BEING HELD IN GAZA AND HOW
9:49:17AM MUCH I FEEL FOR THOSE FOLKS.
9:49:19AM I THINK IT IS A TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT DURING THIS PERIOD

9:49:22AM OF THE HOLY DAYS THAT ARE COMING UP FOR OUR JEWISH
9:49:25AM COMMUNITY.
9:49:25AM THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO SAY HELLO TO MY GOOD FRIEND,
9:49:30AM STEVE SIMON, PRESIDENT OF ATU.
9:49:32AM THE MAN WHO REPRESENTS THE FOLKS IN THE CITY THAT HAVE KEPT
9:49:36AM THE CITY GOING AND HELPED WITH THE RECOVERY IN THE CITY OF
9:49:38AM TAMPA.
9:49:39AM DURING THIS TIME OF EMERGENCY AND NATURAL DISASTERS, THANK
9:49:45AM YOU TO YOU AND ALL THE FOLKS THAT YOU REPRESENT FOR THE CITY
9:49:48AM OF TAMPA.
9:49:48AM WHAT AN IMPORTANT JOB THE FOLKS YOU WORK WITH DO FOR US.
9:49:53AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:49:53AM HE'S GOING TO INTRODUCE OUR EMPLOYEE THAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING
9:49:57AM TODAY, NICOLE.
9:49:59AM I'LL HAND IT OFF TO STEVEN TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
9:50:01AM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:50:03AM >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:50:05AM IF I COULD TAKE A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE, I WOULD LIKE
9:50:08AM TO THANK THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR SENDING OUT AN E-MAIL
9:50:13AM YESTERDAY NOTIFYING ATU MEMBERS THAT IF THEY'VE BEEN
9:50:18AM IMPACTED BY HELENE, THEY NEED TO REACH OUT TO ME IMMEDIATELY
9:50:23AM FOR ASSISTANCE.
9:50:23AM SECONDLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY -- I LOST THAT THOUGHT.
9:50:32AM I'LL COME BACK TO THAT.
9:50:33AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

9:50:35AM GOOD MORNING, CITY OF TAMPA.
9:50:35AM I'M STEVE SIMON, THE PRESIDENT OF THE AMALGAMATED TRANSIT
9:50:40AM UNION LOCAL 1464 AND WE KEEP THE CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING.
9:50:45AM I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE THIS MORNING IN ORDER TO INTRODUCE TO
9:50:47AM YOU THE ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, MS. NICOLE WILLIAMS.
9:50:52AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:50:52AM MS. WILLIAMS IS THE ONLY PERSON -- LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN --
9:51:04AM MS. WILLIAMS IS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE CITY WHO CARRIES THE
9:51:07AM TITLE OF SUBROGATION SPECIALIST.
9:51:10AM BUT SHE DOES THE JOB OF MANY.
9:51:12AM YOU MAY ASK, WHAT DOES THE TITLE MEAN?
9:51:15AM WELL, WHEN AN INJURY OCCURS TO A CITY STAFF PERSON OR WHEN
9:51:19AM CITY PROPERTY IS DAMAGED BY A THIRD PARTY OR DESTROYED
9:51:23AM THROUGH NO FAULT OF OUR OWN, MS. WILLIAMS WORKS TO RECOVER
9:51:27AM ANY MONEY OWED TO THE CITY AND ANY MONEY SPENT DUE TO THE
9:51:32AM DAMAGE OR INJURY.
9:51:33AM SHE INVESTIGATES THE INCIDENT, COLLECTS INFORMATION, AND
9:51:38AM WORKS TO MAKE SURE NO FUNDS ARE SPENT WHERE THEY SHOULD NOT
9:51:42AM BE SPENT.
9:51:43AM OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, SHE HAS SINGLE-HANDEDLY RECLAIMED
9:51:48AM NEARLY $4 MILLION ON THE CITY'S BEHALF.
9:51:52AM AN UNSUNG HERO.
9:51:55AM IT WOULD BE A BIT HIGHER, BUT 2020 WAS NOT AS ACTIVE.
9:51:59AM THE FUNDS ARE PLACED BACK INTO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND AND
9:52:03AM USED AS PART OF THE OVERALL BUDGET.

9:52:05AM SHE IS OUR HERO, AND SHE DOES IT WITH A SMILE AND QUIET
9:52:10AM WISDOM.
9:52:11AM SHE IS A MOM AND A GRAND MOM.
9:52:14AM SHE HAS SERVED THE CITY AND CITIZENS OF TAMPA FOR 19 YEARS.
9:52:19AM AND WE THANK YOU, NICOLE, FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN KEEPING
9:52:25AM THE CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING.
9:52:27AM AND ON BEHALF OF ATU LOCAL 1464, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU
9:52:31AM WITH THIS AWARD.
9:52:34AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:52:34AM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO READ A PART OF A LETTER FROM THE MAYOR.
9:52:45AM CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING SELECTED AS THE AMALGAMATED TRANSIT
9:52:55AM UNION'S EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH FOR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM,
9:52:59AM STRONG WORK ETHICS, AND FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND IN ALL
9:53:02AM ASPECTS IN YOUR POSITION AS A SUBROGATION SPECIALIST.
9:53:06AM FOR NEARLY A DECADE, YOU HAVE DEMONSTRATED THE ABILITY TO
9:53:10AM NAVIGATE COMPLEX CASES BY RESEARCHING, ANALYZING, AND
9:53:15AM COORDINATING RECOVERY EFFORTS TO ENSURE EFFECTIVE COST
9:53:19AM MANAGEMENT OF SUBROGATION CLAIMS.
9:53:21AM YOU HAVE RECLAIMED NEARLY $4 MILLION OVER THE PAST 5 YEARS,
9:53:26AM AND THESE FUNDS ARE PLACED BACK INTO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND
9:53:28AM AND USED AS PART OF THE OVERALL BUDGET.
9:53:31AM YOU ARE AN ASSET TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT AND THE
9:53:35AM CITY OF TAMPA, AND YOU SET A SHINING EXAMPLE FOR OTHERS TO
9:53:39AM FOLLOW.
9:53:39AM IT IS EMPLOYEES LIKE YOU, NICOLE, THAT MAKE ME PROUD TO

9:53:42AM SERVE AS MAYOR.
9:53:43AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND SERVICE.
9:53:46AM SINCERELY, MAYOR JANE.
9:53:50AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:54:00AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:54:01AM KELLY AUSTIN, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES AND TALENT
9:54:03AM DEVELOPMENT.
9:54:04AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE ATU FOR ALLOWING THESE EMPLOYEES
9:54:07AM TO BE RECOGNIZED.
9:54:09AM COUNCIL FOR INDULGING US AND GIVING US SOME TIME IN FRONT OF
9:54:13AM THE PUBLIC AND THANK YOU TO THE PUBLIC FOR CELEBRATING WITH
9:54:16AM US.
9:54:16AM NICOLE IS -- I'LL LET VALERIE SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY, BUT
9:54:20AM QUICKLY -- NICOLE IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT IF YOU CAN BUILD
9:54:23AM A CITY OF TAMPA EMPLOYEE, THIS IS THE PLAYBOOK IN WHICH YOU
9:54:27AM SHOULD BUILD IT FROM.
9:54:28AM SHE COMES TO WORK EVERY DAY.
9:54:30AM SHE COMES -- SHE COMES TO SERVE THE CITIZENS BY RECOUPING
9:54:36AM THESE DOLLARS, YOU HEAR WHAT COMES BACK INTO THE GENERAL
9:54:38AM FUND.
9:54:39AM THESE ARE FIRE TRUCKS THAT WE CAN PURCHASE, POLICE CARS WE
9:54:42AM CAN PURCHASE.
9:54:42AM THESE ARE PARKS WE CAN IMPROVE.
9:54:44AM SHE DOES THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY ONE PERSON JUST IN THE LAST
9:54:49AM FISCAL YEAR ALONE COLLECTED OVER A MILLION DOLLARS ON BEHALF

9:54:52AM OF THE CITY.
9:54:53AM WHEN VALERIE CAME INTO THE CITY, WHEN SHE AND I STARTED
9:54:57AM WORKING TOGETHER, WE RECOGNIZE THIS IS AN UNDERUTILIZED
9:55:00AM PERSON.
9:55:00AM THROUGH VALERIE'S TENACIOUS INPUT, WE ELEVATED NICOLE'S
9:55:04AM POSITION.
9:55:05AM IT'S REALLY TAKEN OFF FROM THERE.
9:55:06AM BUT NICOLE WOULD DO THIS POSITION REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE
9:55:10AM TITLE WAS.
9:55:11AM I ONLY SEE NICOLE IN THE HALL WHEN WE PASS EACH OTHER ON THE
9:55:14AM WAY TO THE LADY'S ROOM BECAUSE HER HEAD IS DOWN AND WORKING
9:55:17AM ALL THE TIME.
9:55:18AM SHE SERVES THE CITY WELL AND WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE HER.
9:55:21AM I THANK EVERYONE FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE
9:55:25AM SOMEONE IN HUMAN RESOURCES BECAUSE WE TEND TO NOT WANT TO BE
9:55:27AM RECOGNIZED.
9:55:28AM WE LIKE TO BE BEHIND THE SCENES BUT WE DO SERVE THOSE OUT IN
9:55:32AM THE FRONT LINES AND THE WAY WE DO IT IS REALLY, REALLY
9:55:35AM MONUMENTAL.
9:55:37AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:55:39AM VALERIE, RISK MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:55:41AM WHEN NICOLE WAS NOTIFIED THAT SHE HAD BEEN SELECTED, SHE
9:55:45AM WALKED IN MY OFFICE AND SAID, WHAT DID YOU DO?
9:55:48AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:55:48AM AND I JUST TOLD HER I AM SO PROUD OF HER.

9:55:55AM EVERY SINGLE DAY SHE WALKS INTO OUR OFFICE AND SHE GOES TO
9:55:59AM HER DESK AND SHE DEFINITELY KEEPS HER HEAD DOWN.
9:56:02AM SHE IS A MOM AND A GRAND MOM AND YOU SEE HER SISTER, HER TWO
9:56:05AM CHILDREN AND HER GRANDSON BEHIND US.
9:56:08AM SHE WILL COME IN EVERY NOW AND THEN AND BRING A VIDEO OF HER
9:56:11AM GRANDSON.
9:56:12AM I SAW THE ONE WHERE HE KEPT LOCKING THE DOOR ON THE FIRST
9:56:15AM DAY OF SCHOOL BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT TO GET OUT OF THE CAR.
9:56:18AM BUT SHE LOVES THEM.
9:56:20AM SHE LOVES WHAT SHE DOES.
9:56:22AM AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THIS UNSUNG HERO WAS BROUGHT
9:56:26AM UP FRONT JUST FOR A LITTLE WHILE SO THAT EVERYONE
9:56:30AM UNDERSTANDS WHAT SHE DOES EVERY DAY ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF
9:56:33AM TAMPA AND ITS CITIZENS.
9:56:34AM NICOLE, WE'RE PROUD OF YOU.
9:56:36AM >> THANK YOU.
9:56:36AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:56:43AM >> NICOLE, I'LL HAVE TO BE DEALING WITH INSURANCE COMPANIES
9:56:46AM FOR THE NEXT -- I DON'T KNOW -- I THINK I NEED SOMEBODY OF
9:56:49AM YOUR TENACITY TO REPRESENT ME TO RECOVER SOME MONEY FOR
9:56:52AM MYSELF.
9:56:52AM IT'S GREAT TO HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE YOU TO COME UP AND BE ABLE
9:56:55AM TO RECOGNIZE ON BEHALF OF THE FOLKS THAT WORK WITH THE TAMPA
9:56:59AM CITY COUNCIL, WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THE TAMPA CITY
9:57:02AM COUNCIL COMMENDATION PRESENTED TO ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH,

9:57:06AM NICOLE WILLIAMS.
9:57:07AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:57:07AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:57:13AM >> I'LL LET YOU SPEAK AFTER THESE FOLKS.
9:57:17AM WE HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD LIKE TO
9:57:19AM RECOGNIZE YOU AS WELL.
9:57:27AM >> MARY DILLON.
9:57:29AM I REPRESENT THE STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS.
9:57:32AM ON BEHALF OF THE STRAZ, I WANT TO PRESENT YOU WITH TWO
9:57:35AM TICKETS TO BROADWAY SHOW COMING UP.
9:57:38AM PLEASE ENJOY YOURSELF.
9:57:39AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:57:40AM >> THANK YOU.
9:57:42AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:57:48AM >> GOOD MORNING, MS. WILLIAMS.
9:57:49AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:57:51AM GOOD MORNING, MR. SIMON.
9:57:53AM GRACE GONZALEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND
9:57:55AM 1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS.
9:57:57AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO OUR CITY OF TAMPA.
9:57:59AM WE WANT TO PRESENT WITH YOU A GIFT CARD TO ENJOY AT ANY OF
9:58:01AM OUR RESTAURANTS, THE COLOMBIA IN YBOR, ULELE, COLOMBIA CAFE
9:58:06AM NOW HAS GOODIE GOODIE RECIPES.
9:58:08AM PLEASE ENJOY YOURSELF.
9:58:09AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.

9:58:11AM >> THANK YOU.
9:58:12AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:58:14AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:58:16AM JILL WITECKI ON BEHALF OF TAMPA THEATRE.
9:58:19AM THANK YOU FOR LETTING US CELEBRATE YOU TODAY, AND WE HOPE
9:58:22AM YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WILL COME SEE US AT THE THEATER WITH AN
9:58:25AM ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP.
9:58:26AM >> THANK YOU.
9:58:26AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:58:38AM >> OSBORNE, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.
9:58:42AM CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH OF YOUR SERVICE.
9:58:46AM WE WANTED TO OFFER YOU, TO YOU AND A GUEST TICKETS TO A
9:58:51AM PERFORMANCE FOR THIS SEASON.
9:58:53AM AND YOU CAN CHOOSE.
9:58:54AM AND WE JUST THANK YOU AGAIN SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:58:56AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU.
9:58:58AM >> THANK YOU.
9:58:58AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:59:05AM >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:59:07AM MS. NICOLE, I'M HERE WITH THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
9:59:13AM ON BEHALF OF MR. FORD.
9:59:16AM BRIAN FORD, GLAZER FAMILY, ENTIRE BUCS ORGANIZATION, WE
9:59:19AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS.
9:59:21AM WE PRESENT WITH YOU A FOOTBALL.
9:59:24AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:59:34AM >> YOU DON'T GET TO HOLD ON TO THOSE VERY LONG.
9:59:37AM YOU BETTER HOLD ON TO THESE, THOUGH.
9:59:40AM STEVE MICHELINI HERE ON BEHALF OF A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT
9:59:45AM FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE YOU.
9:59:47AM ONE IS CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP.
9:59:50AM GIFT CERTIFICATE TO ENJOY YOURSELF BREAKFAST, LUNCH OR
9:59:53AM DINNER.
9:59:53AM ON BEHALF OF JACKSON'S BISTRO ON HARBORS ISLAND, GOOD THAT
9:59:59AM IT WAS ELEVATED.
10:00:00AM THE GARAGE HAD WATER, BUT NOT THE RESTAURANT.
10:00:03AM WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE WITH YOU A GIFT CERTIFICATE.
10:00:06AM ENJOY YOURSELF FOR LUNCH OR DINNER.
10:00:08AM ON BEHALF OF THE YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, HIGH AND DRY UP
10:00:12AM ON NORTH DALE MABRY, PROVIDING YOU WITH A GIFT CERTIFICATE.
10:00:16AM ENJOY YOURSELF THERE FOR LUNCH OR DINNER.
10:00:18AM ON BEHALF OF MEAT MARKET OLD HYDE PARK VILLAGE, ENJOY
10:00:22AM YOURSELF, LUNCH OR DINNER.
10:00:24AM CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:00:27AM >> THANK YOU.
10:00:27AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:00:28AM I DO WANT TO REACH OUT AND SAY CITY EMPLOYEES ARE THE
10:00:38AM BACKBONE OF THE CITY, AND WE CONGRATULATE AND THANK YOU FOR
10:00:41AM ALL OF YOUR SERVICE.
10:00:43AM >> THANK YOU.
10:00:44AM [ APPLAUSE ]

10:00:44AM NOW IT'S YOUR TURN TO SHINE.
10:00:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:00:51AM I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START.
10:00:56AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK KELLY AUSTIN, HR AND TALENT
10:01:02AM DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, VALERIE HORTON, THE RISK MANAGER,
10:01:06AM MARCUS CHARLES, THE SUPERVISOR, AND MY COWORKERS FOR
10:01:10AM RECOGNIZING ME FOR THE EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.
10:01:12AM WORDS CANNOT EXPRESS HOW THANKFUL I AM.
10:01:17AM I HOPE TO CONTINUE TO PROVE MYSELF AS AN HONORABLE EMPLOYEE
10:01:21AM TO THIS DEPARTMENT.
10:01:22AM THANK YOU FOR ALL THE SUPPORT AND GUIDANCE YOU HAVE
10:01:26AM PROVIDED.
10:01:27AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS FOR ATTENDING
10:01:29AM THIS SPECIAL OCCASION.
10:01:30AM THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
10:01:33AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:01:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:01:42AM CONGRATULATIONS.
10:01:43AM AND THANK YOU TO YOUR FAMILY AND CLEARLY YOU ARE VERY LOVED
10:01:47AM BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH YOU HERE TODAY THAT
10:01:50AM THEY REALIZE AND THEY KNOW HOW SPECIAL YOU ARE AND HOW
10:01:53AM VALUABLE YOU ARE TO THE CITY.
10:01:54AM THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
10:01:56AM THIS IS WELL DESERVED.
10:01:57AM CONGRATULATIONS.

10:01:58AM >> THANK YOU.
10:01:58AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:02:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 3, WHICH IS
10:02:14AM VIRTUAL.
10:02:15AM MR. DARRELL BUTLER.
10:02:17AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:02:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE MR. DARRELL BUTLER.
10:02:26AM THERE YOU ARE.
10:02:27AM I'LL LET HIM BEGIN.
10:02:28AM IT IS OUR FACILITATOR FOR THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION
10:02:30AM COMMITTEE WHICH HAS GONE LIVE AND IS ONLINE AND LOOKING
10:02:35AM FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU.
10:02:36AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:02:38AM >> CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME?
10:02:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:02:41AM GOOD MORNING.
10:02:41AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:02:42AM >> I'M GOING TO GET MY SLIDES UP AS SOON AS I REMEMBER HOW
10:02:47AM TO DO THAT.
10:02:47AM HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
10:02:49AM I HAVE FORGOTTEN HOW TO GET MY SLIDES UP HERE.
10:03:09AM VERY SORRY.
10:03:19AM ARE YOU ABLE TO HELP ME HERE?
10:03:23AM ALL RIGHT.
10:03:41AM WELL --

10:03:54AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, IF YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS WHILE I
10:03:57AM DO THIS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
10:03:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL FILL IN THE TIME, SO TO SPEAK.
10:04:01AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:04:02AM WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER THROUGH A NUMBER OF MEETINGS ON THIS
10:04:08AM AND THIS IS FOR OUR RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
10:04:11AM I WOULD DIRECT EVERYBODY TO THE WEBSITE WHICH IS -- COUNCIL
10:04:19AM ALREADY HAS THESE SLIDES, BY THE WAY.
10:04:22AM YEAH, IF YOU CAN'T -- SOMETIMES TECHNOLOGY DOESN'T WORK WITH
10:04:26AM US, BUT THERE IS THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION WEBSITE AT THE
10:04:29AM CITY OF TAMPA WHICH DEALS WITH THE MEMBERS WHO ARE GOING TO
10:04:33AM BE THERE, THE COMMITTEE PROCESS, THE WORKSHOP SESSIONS
10:04:36AM ALREADY WITH THE DATES WHICH ARE GOING TO RUN FROM OCTOBER
10:04:38AM 22nd, WHICH WILL BE THE FIRST ONE, ALL THE WAY TO FEBRUARY
10:04:41AM 18 WHEN THERE'S GOING TO BE A PUBLIC FORUM INPUT AND WAYS
10:04:46AM WHICH WE CAN STAY ENGAGED.
10:04:47AM IF COUNCIL IS FINE, IF YOU CAN'T GET THE SLIDES UP, WE CAN
10:04:52AM PROVIDE THEM LATER.
10:04:54AM THE COUNCIL HAS THEM PRINTED OUT.
10:04:56AM UNLESS COUNCIL HAS ANY OBJECTION, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
10:05:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU JUST WANT TO GO AHEAD.
10:05:04AM >> YEAH, I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THE CONVERSATION THEN.
10:05:07AM IT IS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA'S VISION TO BE A DIVERSE AND
10:05:12AM INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY.
10:05:16AM WHERE PEOPLE WILL UNITE TO FIND A CARING, EMPATHETIC

10:05:20AM SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY IN WHICH EVERY PERSON IS VALUED, CITY
10:05:27AM CONFRONTS THE HISTORY, LEGACY OF RACIAL INJUSTICE AND
10:05:30AM INEQUALITY.
10:05:31AM THAT'S NOT JUST A CITY OF TAMPA SITUATION.
10:05:34AM IT'S MORE SO IN MANY COMMUNITIES.
10:05:36AM SO THE CITY OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL RECENTLY CREATED A RACIAL
10:05:42AM RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE TO REVIEW STUDY AND MAKE
10:05:47AM RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:05:50AM WITH RESPECT TO FIVE DESIGNATED AREAS.
10:05:53AM THOSE FIVE DESIGNATED AREAS ARE AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE
10:05:55AM HOUSING, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND EMPOWERMENT AND
10:05:59AM ENTREPRENEURSHIP, OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUTH, IGNORED HISTORY AND
10:06:03AM RETURNING CITIZENS AND RESTORATION OF RIGHTS.
10:06:06AM WITH THESE FIVE AREAS, THE CITY COUNCIL IS IN CONSENSUS THAT
10:06:13AM THIS COMMITTEE THAT WAS FORMED SHALL SERVE AS THE CATALYST
10:06:18AM FOR GREATER CITIZEN PARTICIPATION AND THE DETERMINATION OF
10:06:21AM RACIAL HARMONY, RACIAL EQUALITY, AND MATTERS OF JUSTICE AND
10:06:26AM INCLUSION FOR ALL WITHIN THE CITY.
10:06:29AM I'LL ADD TO THAT, AS I WAS LISTENING TO THE IMPACT THAT YOU
10:06:34AM ALL HAD -- I'M UP IN ORLANDO.
10:06:37AM I WAS LISTENING TO THE IMPACT THAT YOU ALL HAD FROM THE
10:06:40AM HURRICANE, AND I UNDERSTAND IN THESE MOMENTS, PEOPLE COME
10:06:46AM TOGETHER AND OVERCOME WHAT WE REFER TO IN MY BUSINESS AS
10:06:50AM ADVERSE ATTENTION TO FOCUS ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE
10:06:56AM MOMENT.

10:06:56AM THAT IS A WONDERFUL THING.
10:06:58AM WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THIS VISION IS TO NOT WAIT FOR
10:07:03AM MOMENTS OF EMERGENCY AND TRAUMA FOR US TO COME TOGETHER IN
10:07:05AM THAT CAPACITY.
10:07:06AM WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT ON ANY GIVEN DAY AS WE MANAGE
10:07:11AM THROUGH AND WORK THROUGH WHAT WE CALL TENSION OR CHALLENGES
10:07:15AM FROM RACE RELATIONS, FROM DIVERSITY, FROM DIFFERENCES IN
10:07:20AM GENERAL.
10:07:21AM THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I THINK ABOUT WHEN -- THE CREATION OF
10:07:28AM THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE IS THAT KIND OF OVERALL
10:07:31AM VISION OF COMING TOGETHER IN ANY GIVEN DAY SO THAT WE ARE
10:07:35AM SHOWING UP THE BEST FOR EACH OTHER WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:07:39AM GIVEN THAT, A TEAM HAS BEEN CREATED WITH THE FLORIDA
10:07:45AM INSTITUTE OF GOVERNMENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
10:07:49AM THEY ARE THE PROJECT MANAGER OF THIS TEAM.
10:07:51AM THE TEAM ALSO INCLUDES MYSELF, DARRELL BUTLER, AS THE
10:07:55AM WORKSHOP FACILITATOR WHERE WE WILL HAVE OVER THE NEXT FEW
10:07:59AM MONTHS A NUMBER OF WORKSHOPS TO ANALYZE THE SITUATION, TO
10:08:04AM IDENTIFY POTENTIAL -- IDENTIFY ANY GAPS, AND TO COME UP WITH
10:08:08AM STRATEGIES TO CLOSE THOSE GAPS WITHIN THOSE FIVE AREAS.
10:08:13AM ALONG WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO RECORD ALL OF THE
10:08:17AM INFORMATION.
10:08:18AM WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE INFORMATION THROUGH THE COLLABORATIVE
10:08:22AM LABS AS A PROCESS MANAGER FOR USE OF REAL-TIME RECORD
10:08:28AM RECORDING AND THE NUMBER OF TECHNOLOGIES THAT THEY USE SO

10:08:32AM THAT WE'RE CAPTURING IN REAL-TIME THE WORK OF THE COMMITTEE,
10:08:36AM THE WORK OF THE WORKSHOPS AND WITHIN THESE SIX COMMITTEE
10:08:41AM WORKSHOPS AIMED TO CREATE THE STRATEGIES FOR CLOSING THE KEY
10:08:45AM GAPS WITHIN THESE AREAS.
10:08:48AM THIS COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, MYSELF, A LITTLE BIT OF
10:08:50AM BACKGROUND ABOUT ME, I'VE BEEN IN THE DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND
10:08:54AM INCLUSION, REFER TO AS DIVERSITY EMPOWERMENT -- MY DEI, A
10:09:00AM SPACE FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS TOTAL, 23 OF THOSE YEARS I HAD MY
10:09:05AM OWN BUSINESS, HELPING ORGANIZATIONS, HELPING COMMUNITIES,
10:09:11AM HELPING MANY ACROSS THE WORLD, IN FACT, TO CREATE THESE
10:09:16AM ENVIRONMENTS OF INCLUSION WHERE PEOPLE COME TOGETHER, DO
10:09:20AM BETTER, WORK TOGETHER WHATEVER ENTITY OR STRUCTURE THAT THEY
10:09:23AM ARE OPERATING IN.
10:09:24AM I APPRECIATE THE FLORIDA INSTITUTE OF GOVERNMENT COMING IN,
10:09:30AM HEY, DARRELL, CAN YOU HELP US OUT TO FACILITATE THESE
10:09:34AM WORKSHOPS.
10:09:35AM FACILITATING WHAT WILL ALREADY BE THERE, WHICH IS THE TALENT
10:09:39AM OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS IDENTIFIED.
10:09:41AM 13 COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED TO HELP US FIND
10:09:45AM SOLUTIONS, RESOLUTION FOR BUILDING THE RECONCILIATION AROUND
10:09:51AM RACE RELATIONS.
10:09:52AM WITH THAT, THE COMMITTEE SCHEDULE YOU SEE HERE.
10:09:57AM BEGINNING OCTOBER 22 WILL BE OUR FIRST WORKSHOP.
10:10:00AM WE'LL DO A SITUATIONAL ANALYSIS AROUND THESE FIVE AREAS, AND
10:10:04AM THEN MOVING OFF FROM THERE, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY --

10:10:07AM NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY, I SHOULD SAY, WILL BE THE
10:10:10AM WORKSHOPS THEMSELVES WHERE WE WILL TACKLE TWO OF THOSE AREAS
10:10:16AM WITHIN EACH OF THOSE WORKSHOPS.
10:10:17AM THAT'S A LITTLE BIT TIGHT.
10:10:20AM WE'RE WORKING WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO
10:10:22AM US, SO THOSE THREE MEETINGS NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY WILL
10:10:26AM FOCUS ON TWO WORKSHOP AREAS WITH TWO POLICY AREAS WITHIN
10:10:32AM EACH OF THE WORKSHOPS.
10:10:34AM AND THEN ON FEBRUARY 18, WE WILL HAVE THE PUBLIC INPUT
10:10:38AM FORUM.
10:10:38AM THE PUBLIC IS INVITED, OF COURSE, TO ALL OF THE WORKSHOPS,
10:10:41AM TO ALL OF THESE MEETINGS.
10:10:43AM WE ALSO HAVE DESIGNATED ONE PARTICULAR MEETING FOR THE
10:10:46AM PUBLIC INPUT SO THAT BEFORE WE COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS AND
10:10:50AM RECOMMENDATIONS, WE WILL WANT TO INCLUDE THE PUBLIC INPUT TO
10:10:56AM ADD TO THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WORKED ON THROUGH THE
10:11:00AM THREE WORKSHOP MEETINGS IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER AND
10:11:04AM JANUARY.
10:11:05AM THESE MEETINGS WILL BE HELD AT THE CITY CENTER AT HANNA
10:11:07AM AVENUE LOCATED AT 2555 EAST HANNA AVENUE.
10:11:12AM YOU CAN ALSO FIND AGAIN ALL THIS INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE.
10:11:16AM SPEAKING OF THE WEBSITE, THIS IS THE WEBSITE HERE THAT
10:11:20AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA JUST MENTIONED.
10:11:23AM THERE IS A LONG ONE THERE.
10:11:24AM YOU CAN FIND IT ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE AS WELL.

10:11:29AM SO WAYS FOR THE PUBLIC TO STAY ENGAGED.
10:11:33AM AGAIN, COME TO THE WORKSHOP SESSIONS AND LISTEN AND OBSERVE
10:11:37AM ON THOSE OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER AND JANUARY MEETINGS.
10:11:41AM PUBLIC FORUM, FEBRUARY 18.
10:11:43AM AND SEND YOUR COMMENTS AT ANY POINT IN TIME.
10:11:47AM WE HAVE A DESIGNATED E-MAIL ADDRESS TO RECEIVE COMMENTS AT
10:11:50AM RRC@TAMPAGOV.NET.
10:11:54AM WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE ENGAGED.
10:11:57AM WE WANT ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO ABSOLUTELY COMMIT TO
10:12:04AM THIS PROCESS.
10:12:05AM AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA ON
10:12:09AM THIS PROCESS.
10:12:10AM THANK YOU AGAIN FOR TRUSTING IN ME TO HELP TO FACILITATE YOU
10:12:15AM ALL TO SOME IDEAS FOR RESOLUTION.
10:12:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:12:19AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:12:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:12:24AM I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TODAY AND
10:12:29AM TALKING.
10:12:30AM AS SOMEONE WHO SAT ON THE CITY'S CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION,
10:12:33AM WE HAD A FACILITATOR, AND IT WAS THE BEST THING WE DID TO
10:12:36AM HELP US FOCUS ON THE ISSUES AT HAND.
10:12:40AM AS YOU MENTIONED, SOME OF THE TOPICS, I THINK THIS IS A VERY
10:12:43AM GOOD TIME TO DO THIS AS WE LOOK AT HOW HURRICANE HELENE IS
10:12:48AM GOING TO CHANGE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING LANDSCAPE IN THE CITY

10:12:52AM OF TAMPA.
10:12:52AM THIS IS A VERY CRITICAL TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
10:12:55AM MY ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO ASK COUNCILMAN VIERA OR STAFF,
10:13:06AM I AM CONCERNED THAT THERE'S ONLY THREE MEETINGS.
10:13:08AM IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN EXTEND TO ALLOW ONE WORKSHOP FOR
10:13:12AM EACH TOPIC?
10:13:13AM I AM HAPPY TO EXTEND FUNDING.
10:13:18AM IT JUST SEEMS LIKE ESPECIALLY NOW WITH THE HURRICANE, WE
10:13:21AM HAVE A LOT MORE.
10:13:24AM MORE TRAUMA HAS BEEN OPENED UP FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
10:13:27AM I REALLY DO BELIEVE ANYTHING POSSIBLE TO EXTEND WOULD BE
10:13:33AM SOMETHING I WOULD WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT.
10:13:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:13:39AM THESE MEETINGS ARE WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT WE WERE GIVEN.
10:13:42AM I WOULD SUPPORT ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR MORE MEETINGS.
10:13:45AM THE PROBLEM IS NOW GOING TO COME WITH THE SCHEDULING.
10:13:48AM WE CAN WORK IN THAT INTO NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY,
10:13:52AM ET CETERA.
10:13:52AM I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
10:13:55AM IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE WORKING WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE
10:13:58AM HAVE.
10:13:59AM I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO MENTION
10:14:01AM THAT, THAT'S A CONCERN.
10:14:03AM I'D LOVE TO SEE TWO ADDITIONAL MEETINGS AT THE VERY LEAST.
10:14:07AM I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

10:14:08AM JUST TO MAKE IT WORK.
10:14:10AM YEAH, I AM SUPPORTIVE.
10:14:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, SINCE YOU ARE
10:14:14AM SPEARHEADING THIS, IF YOU COME TO US WITH A NUMBER.
10:14:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: SURE, ABSOLUTELY.
10:14:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAYBE DATES TO EXTEND THIS.
10:14:21AM THEY'LL AT LEAST BE ABLE TO GET STARTED.
10:14:25AM I BELIEVE IN THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS.
10:14:26AM WE CANNOT -- WE CANNOT SHORTCHANGE.
10:14:29AM QUITE HONEST, FIVE MEETINGS IS NOT ENOUGH BUT A PLACE TO
10:14:33AM BEGIN.
10:14:34AM I JUST BELIEVE THAT WITH THESE GIGANTIC TOPICS THAT
10:14:39AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ACCESSIBLE HOUSING IS HOURS LONG ON
10:14:41AM ITS OWN.
10:14:42AM WHEN YOU WANT TO COMBINE IT WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
10:14:46AM EMPOWERMENT AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP, YOU CAN'T.
10:14:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T DISAGREE.
10:14:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:14:51AM I WILL SUPPORT YOU.
10:14:52AM I WILL SECOND YOU, AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU'LL HAVE SUPPORT
10:14:55AM FROM THE REST OF US.
10:14:56AM THE ONLY OTHER THING I'M GOING TO ASK BEFORE I PASS IT ON,
10:15:00AM HE SPOKE ABOUT A WEBSITE.
10:15:02AM AND IT IS NOT ON OUR SHEET.
10:15:04AM SO IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, LIKE, IF YOU CAN'T READ IT OUT,

10:15:10AM JUST WHERE CAN WE GO TO FIND THE WEBSITE?
10:15:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: IT IS LONG.
10:15:17AM WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL HAVE BRANDON E-MAIL THAT OUT TO COUNCIL
10:15:23AM MEMBERS AND STAFF.
10:15:24AM IT JUST WENT UP THIS MORNING.
10:15:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
10:15:26AM THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD SAY MAYBE DURING NEW BUSINESS,
10:15:30AM PLOP IT ON THE ELMO SO FOLKS CAN SEE IT.
10:15:33AM SOMETIMES VISUALS HELP.
10:15:35AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:15:36AM THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. BUTLER, FOR JOINING US TODAY.
10:15:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:15:39AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, MR. BUTLER, FOR TAKING THIS ON,
10:15:44AM ESPECIALLY REMOTELY.
10:15:45AM IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE PEOPLE WITH EXPERIENCE WORKING ON
10:15:48AM THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:15:50AM AND THANK YOU ALSO TO -- I THINK YOU CAME VIA USF AND MAYBE
10:15:57AM ANGELA CHRIS AND HER TEAM.
10:15:59AM IF THAT'S TRUE, THANK YOU.
10:16:01AM THEY FIND EXCELLENT CONSULTANTS INCLUDING THE ONE THAT
10:16:04AM WORKED WITH US ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
10:16:06AM I'M IN FAVOR OF MORE MEETINGS AS WELL.
10:16:08AM ONLY THING I WOULD SUGGEST, SINCE YOU MENTIONED THE TRAUMA
10:16:12AM OF THE EVENT THAT JUST HAPPENED, I WONDER IF STAFF COULD
10:16:15AM LOOK TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY FEDERAL FUNDING WE COULD GET ON

10:16:18AM AN EMERGENCY BASIS TO HELP PAY FOR IT.
10:16:20AM IT MIGHT BE MORE THAN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SPEND OURSELVES IF
10:16:24AM MR. BUTLER HAS TIME.
10:16:26AM THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION, MR. BUTLER, SURE MY
10:16:29AM COLLEAGUES HAVE MENTIONED THIS TO YOU BEFORE, BUT TWO
10:16:32AM RESOLUTIONS THAT CREATED THIS COMMITTEE.
10:16:33AM ONE WAS THE ORIGINAL ONE AND THEN ADAPTED ONE.
10:16:36AM YOU WILL HEAR IN PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE ARE SOME FOLKS WHO
10:16:39AM WANT US TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ONE.
10:16:41AM I'M SURE YOU WILL BE, BUT TO LET YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY YOU'RE
10:16:47AM GETTING INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE NEW RESOLUTION, BUT IT WOULD
10:16:49AM BE HELPFUL BECAUSE OF THE FOLKS THAT WILL BE REPRESENTED
10:16:53AM THERE IF YOU ALSO COVER SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE OLD
10:16:56AM RESOLUTION.
10:16:57AM THE LAST THING IS THAT YOU WILL FIND EVEN IN A GROUP THAT
10:17:02AM MAY BE SOMEWHAT HOMOGENEOUS, THERE ARE DIFFERENT IDEAS.
10:17:07AM PEOPLE HAVE VERY DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS.
10:17:09AM I WONDER WHAT YOUR CONSENSUS BUILDING PROCESS IS AND HOW YOU
10:17:16AM MIGHT TRY TO BUILD CONSENSUS AT THE END KNOWING THAT PEOPLE
10:17:20AM MAY START WITH VERY DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON HOW TO APPROACH
10:17:23AM THIS.
10:17:24AM >> GREAT QUESTION.
10:17:25AM THE BEAUTY OF THE WORK THAT I'VE DONE FOR THE LAST TWO
10:17:30AM DECADES PLUS IS BRINGING DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS AND
10:17:33AM PERSPECTIVES TOGETHER TO COME TO SOME KIND OF A CONSENSUS

10:17:37AM TOWARDS A COMMON GOOD VISION AND A COMMON GOAL.
10:17:40AM WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T MEET EVERYONE'S NEEDS.
10:17:47AM I MANAGED AN ORGANIZATION, 8500 EMPLOYEES WHERE I HAD A
10:17:51AM RESPONSIBILITY OF WHAT I CALL KEEPING EVERYONE HAPPY, WHICH
10:17:55AM WAS NEAR IMPOSSIBLE.
10:17:57AM AS THE DIRECTOR OF WORK ENVIRONMENT.
10:18:00AM AND WITH THAT, WE FOUND WHAT IS THE MAIN OBJECT THAT
10:18:07AM EVERYONE CAN KIND OF LIVE WITH IN OUR APPROACH TO MEET THIS
10:18:10AM SUBJECT.
10:18:11AM THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I GO WHEN I TALK ABOUT CONSENSUS.
10:18:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:18:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:18:21AM THANK YOU, AGAIN, SIR, FOR YOUR WORK.
10:18:23AM I WANTED TO ASK MR. SHELBY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT UP
10:18:26AM THE RESOLUTIONS BECAUSE -- HOW SHALL I SAY IT?
10:18:30AM WE'VE DEALT WITH THIS BEFORE.
10:18:32AM WE ALL VOTED ON THIS COUNCIL WITHOUT DISSENT, MAKE SURE NO
10:18:40AM DIFFERENT THEORIES OF WHAT'S HAPPENED.
10:18:42AM MR. SHELBY, WE PASSED RESOLUTION 568 BACK IN 2020, CORRECT?
10:18:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
10:18:48AM >>LUIS VIERA: TO EFFECTUATE AND TURN 568 INTO A COMMITTEE
10:18:51AM THAT NECESSITATED THE CREATION OF A NEW RESOLUTION, CORRECT?
10:18:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
10:18:55AM THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION FROM 2020 DID NOT CONTEMPLATE THE
10:19:00AM CREATION BY CITY COUNCIL OF A COMMITTEE.

10:19:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:19:03AM THEREFORE, IN ORDER TO CREATE A RESOLUTION BASED ON THE IDEA
10:19:06AM THAT WAS ORIGINATED IN 568, WE HAD TO DO A NEW RESOLUTION,
10:19:09AM CORRECT?
10:19:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S CORRECT.
10:19:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ESTABLISH.
10:19:12AM AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT NUMEROUS TIMES, WE VOTED ON THE NEW
10:19:19AM RESOLUTION A NUMBER OF TIMES WITHOUT ANY DISCUSSION.
10:19:21AM I WAS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
10:19:24AM THE COMMUNITY HAD BEEN ASKING US TO DO THIS FOR SOME TIME.
10:19:27AM I WAS ASKED ON A SHOW WFLA, I BELIEVE IT WAS.
10:19:31AM I SAID I WOULD BE GLAD TO DO IT.
10:19:37AM KIND OF A FUNNY QUESTION, WELL, I WOULD BE GLAD TO DO IT AND
10:19:40AM ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
10:19:41AM I WANTED TO NOTE THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, THE ORIGINAL
10:19:43AM RESOLUTIONS DID NOT CREATE THIS COMMITTEE.
10:19:46AM WE HAD TO PASS A NEW RESOLUTION WHICH PASSED CITY COUNCIL
10:19:49AM 7-0, WHICH WENT THROUGH NUMEROUS TIMES WITHOUT ANY DISSENT.
10:19:53AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THE NEW RESOLUTION IN NO WAY
10:19:55AM GETS RID OF THE OLD RESOLUTION.
10:19:57AM THEY ACTUALLY WORK TOGETHER.
10:19:58AM THE SECOND ONE WAS NECESSITATED IN ORDER TO GIVE LIFE TO THE
10:20:02AM ASPIRATIONS OF THE FIRST ONE, BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO MAKE
10:20:05AM SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE FOR EVERYTHING WE VOTED
10:20:08AM ON.

10:20:08AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:20:12AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO FOLLOW UP THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO THE
10:20:15AM RESOLUTION THAT ULTIMATELY MADE THE APPOINTMENTS WAS ALSO
10:20:18AM PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL WHERE IT MADE REFERENCE TO RESOLUTION
10:20:24AM 2024-568.
10:20:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
10:20:27AM YOU HAVE THE MAGNA CARTA, THE ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION, AND
10:20:33AM THE CONSTITUTION.
10:20:37AM THEY ARE RELATED.
10:20:39AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT SEPARATED IN ANY WAY, WITH
10:20:42AM CONTROVERSY.
10:20:49AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN SHARE WHAT I FOUND ON THE CITY
10:20:51AM COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE.
10:20:53AM CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
10:20:55AM THERE WAS A QUESTION REGARDING THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE
10:20:58AM RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
10:21:01AM COUNCILMAN VIERA DID SAY THAT HIS OFFICE HAS BEEN WORKING
10:21:03AM WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND STAFF TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THAT
10:21:07AM PAGE.
10:21:07AM THAT IS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
10:21:11AM IF YOU GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE AT TAMPA.GOV/CITY
10:21:17AM COUNCIL, THERE WILL BE A COLUMN ON THE LEFT THAT SAYS, QUICK
10:21:21AM LINKS, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, AND AS YOU SCROLL DOWN, IT DOES
10:21:25AM SAY CITY OF TAMPA RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
10:21:29AM IF YOU DO CLICK ON THAT, IT DOES TAKE YOU RIGHT TO THAT

10:21:32AM PAGE.
10:21:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
10:21:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
10:21:36AM AND IF I MAY, AGAIN, I DID WANT TO THANK AGAIN MR. BUTLER
10:21:40AM AND EVERYBODY THAT'S WORKING WITH YOU.
10:21:42AM WE MENTIONED MRS. ANGELA CRIST AND OTHERS.
10:21:46AM MR. SHELBY, WHO ALSO PUT IN A LOT OF TIME.
10:21:49AM MY OFFICE, BRANDON, AMONG MANY, MANY OTHERS.
10:21:54AM I WILL, BY THE WAY, I HAVE TO LEAVE HERE.
10:21:56AM MY SON, LONG STORY SHORT, HAS A PLAY.
10:21:59AM HAVE TO HELP OUT WITH STUFF.
10:22:01AM AT ABOUT 4:00, IF I HAVE TO LEAVE EARLY BEFORE MOTION TIME,
10:22:05AM I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION.
10:22:06AM I'M THINKING THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WILL
10:22:08AM GET IT DONE.
10:22:09AM I'LL MAKE SURE DURING BREAK TIME.
10:22:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:22:12AM AGAIN, SIR, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
10:22:13AM WE APPRECIATE IT AND FOR THE INFORMATION AND ALL THE
10:22:16AM COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MEETING.
10:22:20AM IN REGARDS TO RESOLUTION 568, WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK MY
10:22:24AM APPOINTEE, MY FRIEND, WHO IS ON THIS BOARD, THAT REGARDLESS
10:22:29AM OF THAT RESOLUTION OR THIS RESOLUTION, EVERYTHING THAT'S
10:22:32AM BEEN BROUGHT UP FROM 568 TO THIS NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED NOT
10:22:36AM JUST, THERE'S DIFFERENT POCKETS -- TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING.

10:22:40AM 568 CANCELED OUT WITH THIS ONE, I WANT EVERYTHING TO BE
10:22:44AM DISCUSSED BECAUSE THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
10:22:46AM AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS.
10:22:49AM YOU SAID SOMETHING I WISH I MENTIONED EARLIER WHEN
10:22:51AM DISCUSSING THE HURRICANE.
10:22:52AM SAID SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES
10:22:55AM TRAGEDY OR A BIG EVENT TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
10:22:58AM I THINK WE IN GENERAL AS MANKIND, WE'RE AN EMBARRASSMENT
10:23:05AM BECAUSE WE SPEND SO MUCH TIME FIGHTING EACH OTHER.
10:23:08AM IT IS ALWAYS A TRAGEDY.
10:23:10AM IF IT'S NOT A WAR, NOT A HURRICANE, NATURAL DISASTER, WE
10:23:14AM BRING OURSELVES TOGETHER.
10:23:17AM WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE TREATING EACH OTHER WITH MUTUAL RESPECT
10:23:19AM AND WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER AND AVOID
10:23:24AM CONFLICT IN GENERAL.
10:23:27AM I'LL READ A QUOTE FROM KIPLING.
10:23:31AM WE'RE ALL ISLANDS SHOUTING LIES TO EACH OTHER ACROSS SEAS OF
10:23:34AM MISUNDERSTANDING.
10:23:34AM IT IS FROM THE LIGHT THAT FAILED WHICH IS LIKE FROM 1907.
10:23:38AM IT IS AN INTERESTING QUOTE BECAUSE WE SPEND SO MUCH TIME IN
10:23:41AM CONFLICT INSTEAD OF LOOKING FOR RESOLUTIONS.
10:23:44AM I HOPE THAT WITH THIS COMMITTEE, WITH THIS BOARD, BECAUSE
10:23:47AM EACH AND EVERY PERSON THAT'S ON THAT BOARD I KNOW MOST OF
10:23:50AM THEM, MANY OF THEM PERSONALLY, THEY ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
10:23:54AM THEY EACH HAVE A DIFFERENT, AS ROBIN LOCKETT LIKES TO SAY, A

10:23:58AM LENS, LOOKING AT THE COMMUNITY FROM A DIFFERENT LENS.
10:24:01AM AND I THINK BRINGING ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS TOGETHER, THIS
10:24:04AM TEAM TOGETHER, I HOPE AND I BELIEVE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO
10:24:07AM BRING POSITIVE CHANGE.
10:24:08AM I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE.
10:24:10AM I'M GLAD THAT THIS COMMITTEE IS MEETING MULTIPLE TIMES AND
10:24:13AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING THAT AND DISCUSSING IT,
10:24:16AM INCREASING FUNDING.
10:24:18AM I WANT ALL THESE TOPICS TO BE DISCUSSED.
10:24:20AM I WANT RESOLUTION 568 TO BE BROUGHT UP.
10:24:22AM WHY?
10:24:22AM BECAUSE I WAS HERE TO VOTE FOR IT AS MANY OTHERS IN 2020,
10:24:26AM WHY?
10:24:26AM BECAUSE I SIGNED THAT RESOLUTION, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH TO
10:24:29AM DISCUSS, SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT AND SO MUCH TO DO MOVING
10:24:33AM FORWARD.
10:24:33AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:24:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:24:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:24:40AM I WANT TO AGAIN BE CLEAR ON THAT ISSUE, MR. CHAIRMAN, WHICH
10:24:44AM IS 568 IN THE RESOLUTION AND THE RESOLUTION THAT CREATED THE
10:24:48AM COMMITTEE, THEY ARE ALL INTERTWINED.
10:24:51AM WE VOTED ON THIS NUMEROUS TIMES IN TERMS OF THE TOPICS,
10:24:54AM ET CETERA.
10:24:55AM THERE'S NOTHING THAT IS BEING LEFT OUT, RIGHT.

10:24:57AM I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY
10:25:03AM MISSTATEMENTS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
10:25:05AM THEY ARE ALL INTERTWINED AND WE'VE WORKED VERY, VERY HARD TO
10:25:08AM MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS BROUGHT TO THE TABLE.
10:25:10AM I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I
10:25:14AM HEARD THAT.
10:25:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:25:16AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, ITEM 4.
10:25:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS TIMELY WITH THE PASS OF HELENE,
10:25:24AM BUT WE SCHEDULED THIS PRESENTATION BECAUSE THE DEADLINE FOR
10:25:27AM SMALL BUSINESSES TO FILE WITH THE SBA DISASTER LOAN PROGRAM
10:25:32AM APPROACHES ON OCTOBER 9.
10:25:33AM I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE SBA, SMALL
10:25:36AM BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, RICK MORALES, TO HIGHLIGHT THIS
10:25:40AM IMPORTANT PROGRAM AND THE BENEFITS THAT IT HAS FOR THE SMALL
10:25:43AM BUSINESS OWNERS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:25:45AM MR. MORALES.
10:25:46AM YOU HAVE TO STATE YOUR NAME EVEN THOUGH I JUST SAID IT.
10:25:50AM >> FOR THE RECORD, RICK MORALE LESS, PUBLIC INFORMATION
10:25:53AM OFFICER WITH THE SBA.
10:25:55AM THE DEPARTMENT SPECIFICALLY OF DISASTER ASSISTANCE.
10:25:59AM FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND TIME.
10:26:01AM IT'S NOT OUR FIRST RODEO.
10:26:04AM I HAVE TO SAY FLORIDA FOR ME, I HAVE BEEN IN MOST OF THE
10:26:08AM STATES OF THE EAST.

10:26:11AM FLORIDA IS ALWAYS THE MOST PREPARED AND VERY ORGANIZED.
10:26:16AM I WAS HERE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO IN TALLAHASSEE FOR A
10:26:23AM SMALLER DECLARATION IN LEON COUNTY.
10:26:25AM THIS ONE WE KNOW IS A VERY SERIOUS ONE BUT, OF COURSE, WE
10:26:29AM DON'T WANT THE CONSTITUENTS TO BE DISCOURAGED.
10:26:36AM FOR EXAMPLE, OUR PROGRAMS, FEDERAL AGENCY, ALWAYS THE PEOPLE
10:26:42AM FIND WAYS TO USE FUNDS.
10:26:44AM WE ARE HERE TODAY TO GIVE EXAMPLES TO ILLUSTRATE HOW THE
10:26:50AM CONSTITUENTS CAN USE OUR FUNDS, PROGRAMS.
10:26:55AM WE HAVE FUNDS FOR PHYSICAL DAMAGE, ECONOMIC DAMAGES, AND FOR
10:26:58AM PROPERTY DAMAGES.
10:26:59AM THAT MEANS THAT THE HOMEOWNERS, RENTERS, NONPROFITS AND
10:27:03AM BUSINESSES CAN USE THESE FUNDS.
10:27:06AM IF THEY HAVE DAMAGES WITHIN THE INCIDENT PERIOD, OF COURSE,
10:27:09AM RIGHT NOW THE INCIDENT PERIOD IS OPEN.
10:27:11AM IT'S FROM THE DAMAGES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FROM SEPTEMBER 23.
10:27:16AM USUALLY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN THE INCIDENT PERIOD WILL BE
10:27:22AM CLOSED WITHIN ONE WEEK, TWO WEEKS.
10:27:24AM WE NEVER KNOW, CLOSE IN THE INCIDENT PERIOD.
10:27:27AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- TAMPA DIDN'T RECEIVE LIKE A LOT OF
10:27:33AM DAMAGES FROM DEBBY, BUT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAD A LOT OF
10:27:38AM DAMAGES.
10:27:38AM SO THE DEADLINE TO APPLY FOR PHYSICAL DAMAGES FOR DEBBY IS
10:27:42AM OCTOBER 9.
10:27:43AM I KNOW A LOT OF CITIES, WE ARE A MELTING POT.

10:27:46AM THAT IS VERY VALUABLE INFORMATION.
10:27:48AM IF THE PEOPLE WITH DAMAGES OF DEBBY DIDN'T APPLY, THEY CAN
10:27:53AM GO NOW AND APPLY WITH HELENE, BECAUSE THOSE DAMAGES WERE
10:27:58AM FROM DEBBY.
10:27:59AM IF THEY HAVE DAMAGES WITH DEBBY --
10:28:04AM IF THEY HAD DAMAGES WITH HELENE, THEY CAN APPLY FOR THAT
10:28:09AM TOO.
10:28:10AM DEBBY AND ONE WITH HELENE, MULTIPLE LOANS APPROVED.
10:28:18AM VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME
10:28:21AM THAT WE HAVE SEEN MULTIPLE DECLARATIONS AT THE SAME TIME.
10:28:25AM THAT'S NOT OFTEN, BUT, YEAH, THAT HAPPENS A LOT.
10:28:29AM RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO VISIT THE DISASTER
10:28:35AM RECOVERY CENTERS.
10:28:36AM THOSE ARE FROM FEMA, BUT WE WERE THERE, TOO.
10:28:39AM WE HAVE CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE FROM SBA.
10:28:42AM MY TWO CENTS, THAT IS THE BEST ONE.
10:28:55AM GOOD ALTERNATIVE, SBA.GOV/DISASTER.
10:29:01AM PROVIDING ALSO MATERIAL.
10:29:06AM PARTNERSHIP, COLLEAGUE TIMOTHY.
10:29:08AM ON THE PAPER WE HAVE QR CODES SO THAT PEOPLE CAN USE THE QR
10:29:12AM CODE TO APPLY.
10:29:14AM WHEN YOU GO TO A DRC, WHEN YOU VISIT A DRC, YOU CAN APPLY
10:29:19AM WITH BOTH FEDERAL AGENCIES.
10:29:20AM SAME DAY, SAME BUILDING, NO DUPLICATION OF BENEFITS.
10:29:23AM THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU VISIT A DRC YOU

10:29:27AM CAN DO THAT.
10:29:28AM WE HAVE BRC, BUSINESS RECOVERY CENTERS.
10:29:30AM THOSE ARE FROM SBA.
10:29:32AM IF YOU GO THERE, YOU CAN APPLY WITH THE SBA.
10:29:35AM THAT IS THE MAIN DIFFERENCE.
10:29:37AM ALSO, I WILL BE SENDING -- SHARE WITH YOU ALL THE ADDRESSES,
10:29:46AM CENTERS TIME, BRC AND DRCs IN ALL THE COUNTIES IN THE
10:29:52AM SOUTH FLORIDA.
10:29:53AM THAT'S VERY VALUABLE AND HELPFUL TOO.
10:29:55AM I'LL MENTION SOME WAYS ON HOW THE PEOPLE USE THESE FUNDS
10:29:58AM EVEN THOUGH WE ARE NOT GRANTS.
10:30:01AM FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU ARE DENIED BY SBA SPECIFICALLY
10:30:04AM HOMEOWNERS OR RENTERS WITH THIS ONE, WE MIGHT REFER THEM TO
10:30:09AM FEMA SO FEMA MIGHT, LET ME SAY MIGHT BECAUSE WE NEVER KNOW.
10:30:15AM THEY MIGHT GIVE THEM OLDER DISASTER ASSISTANCE LIKE GRANTS.
10:30:19AM AT LEAST THEY HAVE HOPE TO RECEIVE SOMETHING JUST BY
10:30:24AM APPLYING WITH US.
10:30:25AM A GOOD OPTION.
10:30:27AM LET'S SAY FEMA DENIES YOU, FEMA APPROVED FUNDS ARE NOT
10:30:32AM ENOUGH OR YOU RECEIVE THE CHECK FROM FEMA BUT IT TOOK A LOT
10:30:36AM OF TIME TO RECEIVE THAT CHECK.
10:30:38AM THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES, WITH ALL THE RESOURCES, SAME WITH
10:30:46AM SBA.
10:30:47AM RECOMMEND ALSO IN TIMES OF DISASTER, APPLY WITH EVERYTHING.
10:30:52AM BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT PART YOU'LL GET THE MONEY

10:30:55AM FASTER.
10:30:55AM I LIKE WHAT THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ESPECIALLY SAID, HE
10:31:00AM MENTIONED A LOT OF RESOURCES, RED CROSS, UNITED WAY.
10:31:09AM THEY HAVE A LOT OF GOOD RESOURCES.
10:31:10AM I WANT TO MENTION ALSO THE 800 NUMBER.
10:31:15AM I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE TIME.
10:31:16AM IF YOU CAN GIVE ME A LITTLE MORE TIME TO EXPLAIN MORE
10:31:19AM BENEFITS.
10:31:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO GIVE HIM THREE MORE MINUTES?
10:31:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND.
10:31:23AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:31:24AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:31:25AM AYE.
10:31:26AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:31:26AM GO AHEAD.
10:31:29AM >> 800 NUMBER THAT IS CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER NUMBER.
10:31:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU PUT IT ON THE OVERHEAD?
10:31:42AM >> PERFECT.
10:31:43AM SO DIFFERENT IN COMPARISON WITH THE OTHER STATES.
10:31:50AM BELIEVE ME.
10:31:51AM THE PEOPLE THAT HAD INSURANCE, YOU KNOW THAT CAN TAKE A LOT
10:31:58AM OF TIME TOO.
10:31:59AM WAITING FOR THE PAYMENT.
10:32:01AM INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR THE PAYMENT OR SETTLEMENT, THEY CAN
10:32:04AM APPLY FOR US AND MIGHT GET THE MONEY FASTER.

10:32:07AM THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THAT THE PEOPLE USE THIS.
10:32:09AM MITIGATION LETTER IS IMPORTANT, SAYS WHY YOU ARE BEING
10:32:17AM DENIED.
10:32:17AM WHEN YOU GO AND VISIT OTHER RESOURCES LIKE NONPROFIT, OTHER
10:32:20AM FEDERAL AGENCIES LIKE THE USDA, THEY CAN TELL YOU HOW YOU
10:32:25AM ARE GOING TO USE OTHER TYPES OF RESOURCES.
10:32:29AM THEY CAN'T SEND YOU AND RECOMMEND YOU HOW TO GO TO DIFFERENT
10:32:35AM PLACES BETTER BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN PROACTIVE.
10:32:37AM THAT IS ANOTHER WAY OF DOING THINGS.
10:32:40AM THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TOO.
10:32:41AM ALSO IN COMPARISON WITH NORMAL FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, OUR
10:32:48AM INTEREST RATES ARE FIXED.
10:32:54AM OUR COLLATERAL IS UP TO 25,000.
10:32:56AM SO THAT MEANS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT NOTHING IN
10:32:59AM GUARANTEE.
10:33:00AM THAT'S USEFUL TOO.
10:33:02AM OUR LIMITS ARE UP TO 2 MILLION FOR PHYSICAL AND ECONOMICAL
10:33:07AM DAMAGES.
10:33:08AM I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY MORE TIME.
10:33:10AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WOULD BE GREAT TO ANSWER THEM.
10:33:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:33:13AM ANY QUESTIONS?
10:33:14AM NO.
10:33:14AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:33:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD SAY IF THEY COULD SHOW IT ONE MORE

10:33:20AM TIME.
10:33:20AM TIM, IF YOU COULD BLOW UP -- YEAH, JUST SO THAT FOLKS COULD
10:33:27AM SEE THE PHONE NUMBER AND THE QR CODE.
10:33:29AM THE QR CODE, WEBSITE AND PHONE NUMBER.
10:33:37AM THE WEBSITE IS SBA.GOV/DISASTER.
10:33:47AM PHONE NUMBER, 1-800-659-2955.
10:34:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SBA PROVIDES LOW-INTEREST LOANS FOR FIXED
10:34:04AM RATES.
10:34:04AM IF SOMEONE IS LOOKING FOR A GRANT THAT WOULD BE FEMA.
10:34:07AM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
10:34:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:34:12AM APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE.
10:34:13AM THANK YOU.
10:34:13AM VERY TIMELY.
10:34:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:34:19AM MR. SHELBY, REGARDING 67 AND 68.
10:34:24AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDA, EXCUSE ME JUST A
10:34:31AM MINUTE.
10:34:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE TO TAKE 67 AND 68 BEFORE GENERAL
10:34:39AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:34:39AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, THE WAY IT STANDS IS THIS, PAGE 15 OF
10:34:42AM THE AGENDA, THE 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE ITEMS 67 AND 68.
10:34:48AM WE JUST FINISHED UP THE ITEM, ITEM 4.
10:34:56AM HERE WE ARE, IT IS NOW 10:35.
10:34:58AM ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, DIDN'T MAKE IT ON THE

10:35:04AM AGENDA, I WILL POINT OUT THAT THE MOTION WAS MADE THAT THE
10:35:08AM PUBLIC HEARINGS REGARDING THIS ITEM, THE PINEWOOD
10:35:11AM DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BE CONTINUED TO OCTOBER 3 -- READING
10:35:14AM FROM THE MINUTES, 2024 AT A TIME CERTAIN OF 10:30 A.M.
10:35:18AM COUNCIL HAS A DECISION TO MAKE.
10:35:21AM GRANTED, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S PUBLIC WAITING TO MAKE A
10:35:25AM COMMENT.
10:35:25AM THESE ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:35:26AM BUT IT WAS COUNCIL'S DETERMINATION TO SET THIS FOR A TIME
10:35:29AM CERTAIN.
10:35:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD COUNCIL LIKE TO MOVE TO OPEN THESE
10:35:32AM PUBLIC HEARINGS 67 AND 68 AND THEN TAKE GENERAL PUBLIC
10:35:35AM COMMENT?
10:35:35AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:35:38AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:35:39AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:35:40AM AYE.
10:35:41AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:35:41AM WE'RE GOING TO GO TO 67 AND 68 AND THEN GENERAL PUBLIC
10:35:46AM COMMENT.
10:35:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FILE NUMBERS DA 24-8133.
10:36:00AM IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
10:36:02AM STAFF PRESENTING?
10:36:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE A MEMBER OF STAFF PRESENT FOR THIS
10:36:06AM ITEM?

10:36:06AM OR ONLINE?
10:36:11AM MADAM CLERK, IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE FROM STAFF?
10:36:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MS. FEELEY.
10:36:16AM WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, MS. FEELEY.
10:36:23AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: HOW ABOUT NOW?
10:36:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THERE WE GO.
10:36:26AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD MORNING, ABBYE FEELEY, INTERIM
10:36:30AM ADMINISTRATOR, DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
10:36:32AM REBECCA JOHNS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WAS GOING TO
10:36:38AM BE PRESENT TO PRESENT ON THIS ALSO.
10:36:41AM THIS IS THE PINEWOOD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
10:36:45AM WHEN WE LEFT OFF LAST WEEK IN RELATION -- I'M SORRY, A FEW
10:36:50AM WEEKS AGO.
10:36:51AM GOT TO GET MY DAYS STRAIGHT RIGHT NOW.
10:36:53AM THERE WAS A MEETING TO BE HELD BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE
10:36:59AM CITY.
10:36:59AM THAT MEETING DID TAKE PLACE IN RELATION TO THE IMPROVEMENTS
10:37:04AM AND TRYING TO SEE IF THERE WERE OPPORTUNITIES TO COME TO
10:37:07AM AGREEMENT AND GO IN THERE.
10:37:11AM I BELIEVE THAT MR. GARDNER WILL BE PRESENT TO PRESENT THE
10:37:15AM FINDINGS OF THAT MEETING AND THE INTENTION OF THE DEVELOPER
10:37:18AM IN MOVING FORWARD THIS MORNING.
10:37:19AM IS MR. GARDNER IN THE CHAMBERS?
10:37:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SEE MR. GARDNER IN THE CHAMBERS.
10:37:24AM ARE YOU READY TO HAND IT OFF TO MR. GARDNER?

10:37:27AM MR. GARDNER, STATE YOUR NAME.
10:37:29AM >> TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE HERE ON BEHALF OF
10:37:33AM BRIAN FUNK.
10:37:33AM AS ABBYE MENTIONED, WE DID MEET -- DID YOU WANT TO SAY
10:37:42AM SOMETHING?
10:37:42AM WE DID MEET WITH THE BASE.
10:37:44AM WE'VE ALWAYS VIEWED THE BASE AS OUR PARTNER IN THIS.
10:37:47AM WE THINK THAT AS IT RELATES TO THE HOTEL AS WELL AS THE
10:37:51AM TRAILHEAD, THEY WILL BE A LARGE USER OF THAT.
10:37:54AM THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL WAS TO MEET WITH THEM, BACKING
10:38:00AM ALL THE WAY UP TO THE DESIGN OF THE PARK, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN
10:38:03AM DONE IN A VERY PASSIVE MANNER.
10:38:05AM WE WORKED WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT
10:38:07AM WAS.
10:38:07AM WE CAME TO THAT MEETING WITH THE SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE AND
10:38:10AM TRYING TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE PASSIVE.
10:38:14AM IDEAS WE PUT ON THE TABLE, AS YOU'LL RECALL, THE PARK HAS NO
10:38:17AM RESTROOM.
10:38:18AM THAT IS NOT A FORWARD OBLIGATION SO WE SAID WE WOULD COMMIT
10:38:23AM ON THE RECORD THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE A RESTROOM FACILITY.
10:38:25AM WE THINK THAT IS THE BIGGEST LIMITING FACTOR IN JUST HUMAN
10:38:29AM NATURE AND HUMAN BIOLOGY ON NOT ALLOWING PEOPLE TO
10:38:35AM CONGREGATE.
10:38:36AM SECONDLY, THE CITY PARKS DEPARTMENT WAS COMFORTABLE THAT
10:38:39AM THIS PARK WOULD NOT BE PROGRAMMED, YOU COULDN'T HAVE PLANNED

10:38:42AM EVENTS.
10:38:43AM COULDN'T HAVE BIRTHDAY PARTIES, THINGS OF THE LIKE.
10:38:46AM NOT A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO CONGREGATE.
10:38:47AM THIRD, WE OFFERED UP SIGNAGE THAT THIS IS NOT AN AREA OF
10:38:51AM CONGREGATION.
10:38:52AM REALLY BACK TO THE SPIRIT, THIS IS A TRAILHEAD THAT, YES,
10:38:56AM DOES HAVE PARKING WHERE YOU COULD UNLOAD YOUR BICYCLE IF
10:38:59AM SOMEBODY WAS ON THE TRAIL AND NEEDED A BENCH TO REST FOR A
10:39:02AM MINUTE, THEY COULD.
10:39:03AM AGAIN, WITH NO FACILITIES, THIS IS A PLACE FOR PASSING
10:39:06AM THROUGH.
10:39:07AM SO WE PRESENTED THAT TO THEM.
10:39:09AM I THINK YOU'LL HEAR THAT THEY STILL HAVE OBJECTIONS TO THAT.
10:39:12AM BUT WE FEEL THAT IT'S IN THE SPIRIT OF THE CITY AS IT
10:39:16AM RECEIVED THE PROPERTY THROUGH THE DIGS PROGRAM.
10:39:19AM WE FEEL LIKE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE RESOLUTION, AND WE'RE
10:39:23AM COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
10:39:23AM AGAIN, HAPPY TO STATE ON THE RECORD TO DO ANYTHING TO MAKE
10:39:26AM THIS AS PASSIVE AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE FEEL THAT WE'RE ACTING
10:39:30AM IN THE SPIRIT OF THE RESOLUTION AND WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A
10:39:32AM GREAT THING FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:39:35AM AS YOU'LL RECALL BEFORE, THIS WAS AN AREA THAT WAS OVERGROWN
10:39:38AM AND IT BECAME A LARGE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT WHERE PEOPLE WERE
10:39:42AM LITERALLY LIVING THERE.
10:39:43AM WE FEEL THAT HAVING THIS CLEANED UP AND HAVING THIS IN THE

10:39:48AM SPIRIT OF A TRUE TRAILHEAD, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO
10:39:54AM IS WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TODAY.
10:39:55AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:39:57AM WE HAVE A WHOLE PRESENTATION.
10:39:58AM WE HAVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:39:58AM WE'VE GOT ANYTHING YOU MAY WANT TO SEE, BUT REALLY WANTED
10:40:02AM TO, SPECIFIC MOOD FROM THE CITY WAS FOR US TO MEET WITH THEM
10:40:08AM AND WANTED TO REPORT BACK ON THE MEETING.
10:40:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BEFORE WE GET QUESTIONS, I SEE REBECCA
10:40:12AM JOHNS HAS ENTERED THE ROOM.
10:40:15AM DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?
10:40:19AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:40:22AM I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW BECAUSE THE QUESTION WAS RAISED AT
10:40:24AM THE LAST HEARING THAT THE CITY STAFF HAS LOOKED FOR ANYTHING
10:40:27AM THAT ESTABLISHED A LEGAL DESCRIPTION FOR THE CLEAR ZONE THAT
10:40:30AM WAS REFERENCED BY MacDILL.
10:40:32AM STAFF HAD NOT FOUND ANYTHING THAT ESTABLISHED THAT CLEAR
10:40:35AM ZONE.
10:40:36AM I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:40:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SEE MR. MULKEY IS ONLINE AS WELL.
10:40:42AM >>TONY MULKEY: TONY MULKEY, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
10:40:46AM WAS IN THAT MEETING WITH THE BASE AS WELL AS REPRESENTATIVES
10:40:48AM FROM THE DEVELOPERS.
10:40:51AM WANTED TO KIND OF JUST PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE APPROACH
10:40:54AM OF THE PARK SPACE HERE AND HOW WE KIND OF VIEW THINGS.

10:40:58AM THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS VERY CONSISTENT
10:41:01AM WITH ESSENTIALLY ITEMS YOU WOULD FIND IN A RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:41:04AM IT REALLY IS JUST A MAINTAINED PUBLIC REALM SPACE, COUPLE OF
10:41:10AM BENCHES WITHIN THAT CLEAR ZONE THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED.
10:41:12AM THERE ARE OTHER AMENITIES IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT ARE VERY
10:41:16AM SIMILAR.
10:41:17AM STREET PARKING, BUS BENCHES, ESTABLISHED VISITOR CENTER THAT
10:41:23AM THE BASE HAS HAD A WAIVER ON WHICH ALSO HAS PUBLIC SPACE AS
10:41:27AM WELL.
10:41:27AM SO THIS ALL KIND OF REALLY CONFORMS WITH THOSE PUBLIC REALM
10:41:33AM AMENITIES.
10:41:33AM AND THAT'S THE APPROACH THAT WE TOOK.
10:41:35AM WE WILL NOT PERMIT EVENTS.
10:41:39AM THIS IS A PASS-THROUGH SPACE.
10:41:41AM YES, THERE IS PASSIVE SPACE IN THERE BUT NO DIFFERENT THAN
10:41:44AM ANYTHING ELSE IN THAT AREA, EXCEPT THAT IT WOULD BE
10:41:46AM MAINTAINED AS IT'S CURRENTLY NOT PROGRAMMED ON OUR
10:41:53AM MAINTENANCE ROTATION.
10:41:54AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT.
10:41:57AM GLAD TO SUPPORT IT.
10:42:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE BASE.
10:42:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN WE'LL GO TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND
10:42:11AM COUNCILMAN --
10:42:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT -- TO ME IT'S
10:42:18AM NOT PUBLIC COMMENT.

10:42:19AM I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THEIR CONTINUED OPPOSITION TO WHAT
10:42:24AM IS AFTER THEIR MEETING.
10:42:27AM I THINK THEY ARE A VERY BIG PART OF THIS.
10:42:32AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:42:33AM TONY RODRIGUEZ.
10:42:34AM I'M WITH THE SIXTH CIVIL ENGINEER SQUADRON WITH MACDILL AIR
10:42:38AM FORCE BASE.
10:42:39AM I HAVE WITH ME TODAY COLONEL McGHEE, OUR MISSION SUPPORT
10:42:42AM GROUP COMMANDER.
10:42:44AM ESSENTIALLY OUR CITY MANAGER, LIEUTENANT COLONEL NEIL WITH
10:42:48AM JUDGE ADVOCATE GENERAL OFFICE AS WELL AS MR. PARKER WITH
10:42:51AM JUDGE ADVOCATE GENERAL'S OFFICE.
10:42:53AM MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE WE STILL WOULD LIKE TO OBJECT TO THIS
10:43:01AM DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
10:43:02AM WE'VE GOT -- I GUESS THE THING THAT'S ONCE AGAIN BEING LOST
10:43:10AM HERE IN THE INTERPRETATION FROM THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY
10:43:12AM IS THAT WHERE THE PARK IS PROPOSED IS WITHIN OUR CLEAR ZONE,
10:43:16AM WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE SHARED WITH THE CITY FOR YEARS
10:43:20AM NOW.
10:43:20AM THIS IS A 3,000 BY 3,000 BOX OFF THE END OF OUR RUNWAY, AND
10:43:25AM THIS IS AN AREA OF HIGHEST AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT POTENTIAL.
10:43:29AM SO WE DON'T WANT GATHERING PLACES OF PEOPLE IN THE CLEAR
10:43:33AM ZONE.
10:43:33AM IT JUST DOES NOT MAKE GOOD SENSE.
10:43:36AM WE'VE SHARED -- WE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST TIME, THE ACU

10:43:42AM STUDY.
10:43:42AM WE WORKED WITH CITY STAFF ON THE LAST UPDATE OF THIS.
10:43:47AM AND WITHIN THE CLEAR ZONE, IT IS RECOMMENDED NO PARKS AND NO
10:43:52AM PARKING LOTS.
10:43:54AM FURTHERMORE, TAMPA'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SHOWS NO VERTICAL
10:43:57AM DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CLEAR ZONE.
10:44:00AM EVEN IF YOU WERE TO HAVE A PARKING LOT, BY YOUR STANDARDS,
10:44:03AM THE PARKING LOTS WOULD NEED TO HAVE LIGHTS.
10:44:05AM THE LIGHTS WOULD BE CONSIDERED VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT.
10:44:08AM AS FAR AS MR. MULKEY'S COMMENT ABOUT THESE AMENITIES ARE
10:44:14AM WITHIN NORMAL PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, WELL, THIS IS A
10:44:17AM CITY-OWNED PARCEL, BUT THIS IS NOT PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:44:20AM A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY IS LIKE A STREET.
10:44:22AM THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:44:23AM WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE BASE'S PERSPECTIVE,
10:44:32AM FROM OUR IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:44:33AM WE HAVE OVER 19,000 MEMBERS THAT WORK AT MACDILL AIR FORCE
10:44:37AM BASE.
10:44:39AM $11 BILLION ECONOMIC IMPACT IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ALONE.
10:44:43AM ANYTHING THAT WOULD IMPACT OUR AIR OPERATIONS MISSION WOULD
10:44:50AM NOT ONLY BE DETRIMENTAL TO MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE BUT
10:44:54AM DETRIMENTAL TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
10:44:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:44:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MY QUESTION TO YOU BECAUSE THIS SEEMS TO
10:45:02AM BE A STICKING POINT THAT PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ABOUT, WHAT IS

10:45:05AM THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HAVING YOUR WELCOME CENTER THERE AND
10:45:09AM HAVING THE PUBLIC PARK?
10:45:14AM >> THE WELCOME CENTER IT'S KIND OF A NECESSARY EVIL.
10:45:18AM THAT IS AT THE ENTRANCE TO OUR BASE.
10:45:20AM THERE IS NO OTHER LOCATION ALONG OUR BASE BOUNDARY WHERE WE
10:45:23AM CAN HAVE THAT VISITOR CENTER TO CLEAR PEOPLE COMING INTO THE
10:45:28AM BASE OTHER THAN AT THAT DALE MABRY LOCATION.
10:45:32AM SO WE HAVE AN AIR FORCE PROCESS FOR PROPERTY THAT WE OWN OF
10:45:36AM WHICH WE OWN THE PROPERTY WHERE THE VISITOR CENTER IS AT TO
10:45:39AM GET A WAIVER TO ALLOW THAT SORT OF FUNCTION TO OCCUR.
10:45:43AM AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE AIR FORCE TAKES VERY
10:45:47AM SERIOUSLY.
10:45:48AM UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T DO THAT SORT OF WAIVER ON THE CITY'S
10:45:52AM PARCEL BECAUSE WE DO NOT OWN THAT PARCEL.
10:46:03AM >> I AM THE LEGAL ADVISOR TO THE WING COMMANDER.
10:46:06AM THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO BE HEARD ON THIS.
10:46:09AM AS TONY SAID, THE VISITOR CENTER RETAINED WAIVER FOR.
10:46:14AM WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONTROL KIND OF THE ACCESS TO
10:46:17AM THAT LOCATION, PRIMARILY MILITARY PERSONNEL WHO ARE THERE
10:46:21AM CARRYING OUT OFFICIAL OPERATIONS.
10:46:22AM A PARK IN THE CLEAR ZONE OFF BASE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE SAME
10:46:26AM ABILITY TO CONTROL ACCESS, ESPECIALLY WHEN ALSO INCLUDING A
10:46:29AM PARKING LOT AS PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.
10:46:33AM I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT -- I THINK THE COUNCIL RECOGNIZES WE
10:46:37AM DO AS WELL THE IMPORTANCE OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE

10:46:39AM BASE AND THE CITY, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS
10:46:41AM DISCUSSION.
10:46:42AM I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY AS THE CITY IS
10:46:44AM GOING THROUGH HURRICANE RECOVERY OPERATIONS RIGHT NOW
10:46:47AM OnBase WITH SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE AND COLONEL McGHEE
10:46:50AM RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RECOVERY EFFORTS IS HERE SHOWING HOW
10:46:53AM IMPORTANT THIS ISSUE IS TO US AS A BASE.
10:46:55AM THE PARCEL OF LAND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE CLEAR
10:46:59AM ZONE, AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, WAS RETAINED WITH DEFENSE
10:47:02AM INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT IN 2005-2006 WITH THE AID OF MACDILL
10:47:06AM AIR FORCE BASE FOR THE VERY PURPOSE OF AVOIDING THE KIND OF
10:47:09AM SITUATION WE FIND OURSELVES IN NOW.
10:47:10AM THAT'S ADVOCATING FOR KEEPING THE CLEAR ZONE FREE.
10:47:14AM IN TERMS OF AUTHORITY, COMMENT MADE EARLIER, NO AUTHORITY
10:47:17AM FOR WHAT A CLEAR ZONE IS.
10:47:19AM I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.
10:47:20AM WHILE NOT A STATUTORY AUTHORITY, THERE IS AIR INSTALLATION
10:47:24AM COMPATIBLE USE ZONE STUDY IN 2023.
10:47:27AM 114 PAGE DOCUMENT THAT HAS EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION OF WHAT A
10:47:30AM CLEAR ZONE IS AND WHAT DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE AUTHORIZED IN
10:47:35AM THAT AREA.
10:47:36AM THAT IS A STUDY DONE AT EVERY AIR FORCE INSTALLATION IN THE
10:47:40AM AIR FORCE.
10:47:41AM THIS IS NOT UNIQUE TO MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
10:47:43AM THE STANDARDS WITHIN THE STUDY ARE VERY STANDARD TO AIR

10:47:47AM INSTALLATIONS AND ALSO DONE WITH THE BUY-IN OF THE TAMPA
10:47:50AM CITY PLANNER BECAUSE YOUR STAKEHOLDERS TO MAKE SURE THAT
10:47:53AM THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE ISSUES
10:47:56AM IN THAT ACU STUDY, COLLOQUIALLY RECOVER TO IT.
10:48:01AM IN THE STUDY IT TALKED ABOUT PARKS IN APPENDIX A, IN THE
10:48:05AM CLEAR ZONE, PARKS ARE A NO.
10:48:07AM THAT'S FOR, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT ANTI-PARK, BUT WE ARE CERTAINLY
10:48:11AM SUPPORTIVE OF SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY PERSONNEL AS WELL AS
10:48:15AM ENSURING THERE ISN'T ANY OBSTRUCTION TO EFFICIENT AND
10:48:17AM EFFECTIVE MILITARY OPERATIONS FROM THE BASE.
10:48:20AM THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
10:48:21AM AGAIN, WE THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO IDENTIFY THAT
10:48:24AM POSITION.
10:48:24AM AGAIN, TO CONTINUE THAT RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE KIND OF
10:48:27AM WITH THE CITY AS WE'RE PROTECTING OUR MILITARY OPERATIONS
10:48:30AM BUT ALSO THE TAMPA COMMUNITY.
10:48:32AM THANK YOU.
10:48:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:48:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TAKE MS. HENDERSON FIRST.
10:48:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE MILITARY OFFICER
10:48:44AM THAT JUST LEFT THE PODIUM.
10:48:45AM GOOD MORNING.
10:48:51AM SO YOU RECEIVED A WAIVER FOR THE WELCOME CENTER, WHICH YOU
10:48:54AM HAVE TO APPLY FOR.
10:48:55AM HOW MANY PEOPLE COME THROUGH THE WELCOME CENTER?

10:48:59AM >> THAT'S A TOUGH QUESTION, MA'AM.
10:49:02AM I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THE EXACT NUMBERS THAT GO
10:49:04AM THROUGH THE WELCOME CENTER, VISITOR CENTER.
10:49:06AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: A BALLPARK, A THOUSAND, TEN THOUSAND?
10:49:10AM >> IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO GIVE YOU A BALLPARK.
10:49:12AM IF IT WAS, PURE SPECULATION IN TERMS OF THE EXACT NUMBER.
10:49:17AM THE ENTRANCE TO THAT AND ULTIMATELY THE TRAFFIC CONTROLLED
10:49:19AM THROUGH THAT, AGAIN, OFFICIAL OPERATIONS FOR OBTAINING
10:49:23AM VISITOR PASSES TO GO ON THE INSTALLATION, AREA CONTROLLED BY
10:49:27AM THE MILITARY AND WE CONTROL THE ACCESS TO IT.
10:49:29AM I UNDERSTAND THE POINT.
10:49:30AM THERE ARE A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT GO THROUGH THERE.
10:49:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WOULD YOU RECOGNIZE THAT PARKING SPACES
10:49:41AM WHERE CARS ARE PARKED AND PEOPLE AT A VERY LIMITED PARK THAT
10:49:47AM DOESN'T HAVE EQUIPMENT, WHERE IT IS A MAJOR HANGOUT PARK
10:49:50AM WOULD BE LESS THAN THE PEOPLE THAT COME THROUGH A WELCOME
10:49:53AM CENTER WHERE YOU GOT A WAIVER FOR IT?
10:49:55AM EVEN THOUGH IT IS A NECESSARY EVIL, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE
10:50:01AM DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD
10:50:03AM BE UTILIZING A PARK OF THIS CAPACITY BECAUSE IT'S JUST
10:50:08AM REALLY A FEW BENCHES AND A DECORATIVE SPACE FOR FOLKS AND
10:50:13AM THEN PARKING.
10:50:14AM PEOPLE DON'T HANG OUT IN PARKING LOTS.
10:50:16AM IT'S JUST FOR PARKING.
10:50:17AM WHAT WOULD BE THE HUGE SIGNIFICANT SAFETY THAT WOULD IMPEDE

10:50:22AM THE MILITARY BASE IN A SAFETY SITUATION?
10:50:28AM >> ANYTIME WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN A CLEAR ZONE, WE HAVE
10:50:30AM TO BE ANALYZING THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.
10:50:32AM ARE WE INCREASING THE DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO
10:50:36AM POTENTIALLY MILITARY OPERATIONS? WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT
10:50:38AM THE VISITOR CENTER THAT WE HAD TO RECEIVE THE PERMANENT
10:50:40AM WAIVER FOR.
10:50:41AM I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:50:42AM WHAT I WOULD NOTE AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE PARK
10:50:45AM AND THE PARKING LOT, OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S
10:50:49AM PROJECTED FOLLOW-ON DEVELOPMENT OF A HOTEL THAT'S UP AGAINST
10:50:53AM THE PARKING LOT.
10:50:53AM I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE AS INFREQUENTLY
10:50:56AM TRAFFICKED AS SUGGESTED IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
10:51:00AM THERE.
10:51:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DO YOU THINK LESS PEOPLE THAN WOULD COME
10:51:04AM THROUGH A WELCOME CENTER?
10:51:05AM >> POTENTIALLY.
10:51:06AM STILL ADDITIONAL INDIVIDUALS PUTTING IN DANGER.
10:51:08AM WE'RE ADDING TO ALREADY THE RISK THAT WAS ASSUMED WITH THE
10:51:11AM VISITOR CENTER AS DESCRIBED BY TONY AND AS GRANTED BY THE
10:51:14AM THREE STAR GENERAL WHO HAD TO GRANT THE EXCEPTION FOR THE
10:51:18AM VISITOR CENTER.
10:51:19AM WE'RE ADDING TO IT.
10:51:22AM NOT CANCELING ANYTHING OUT OR LESSENING THE DANGER WITH THE

10:51:25AM VISITOR CENTER.
10:51:25AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW MUCH DANGER HAS COME TO THE CLEAR ZONE
10:51:29AM IN THE PAST TEN YEARS?
10:51:31AM >> MA'AM, WE HAVE NOT HAD AIRCRAFT CRASH.
10:51:33AM COLONEL McGHEE AND MYSELF, SEEN AIRCRAFT CRASH,
10:51:40AM UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCE.
10:51:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANSWER THE QUESTION, HOW MANY?
10:51:43AM >> NONE IN THE LAST TEN YEARS.
10:51:45AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: LAST 20 YEARS.
10:51:47AM >> NONE IN THE CLEAR ZONE LAST 20 YEARS.
10:51:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AT ANY TIME, ANY DANGEROUS SITUATION IN
10:51:52AM THAT CLEAR ZONE AREA THAT WOULD CAUSE US TO PREVENT A
10:51:56AM PARKING LOT?
10:51:57AM >> MA'AM, IN TERMS -- IT IS THE DANGER THERE.
10:52:01AM NOT WHETHER OR NOT THERE HAVE BEEN CRASHES.
10:52:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN'T BE TOO MUCH DANGER IF IT IS A
10:52:06AM NECESSARY EVIL FOR YOU TO GET A WAIVER FOR THE WELCOME
10:52:09AM CENTER WHERE LOTS OF PEOPLE COME THROUGH.
10:52:11AM CAN'T BE THAT SERIOUS.
10:52:12AM YOU HAD TO GET THE WAIVER BECAUSE IT'S PROTOCOL.
10:52:15AM WOULD YOU AGREE?
10:52:15AM PROTOCOL FOR YOU TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S WHAT YOU CONSIDER
10:52:19AM THE CLEAR ZONE SO THE PROCEDURE IS GET A WAIVER.
10:52:22AM >> THE PROCEDURE IS FOR THE WAIVER TO COME FROM VERY HIGH
10:52:24AM LEVEL BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION OF WHERE IT'S LOCATED.

10:52:27AM IN THE CLEAR ZONE BECAUSE OF THE DANGER THAT PRESENTS.
10:52:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S HOW YOU SOLVED THE PROBLEM, YOU GOT
10:52:32AM THE WAIVER.
10:52:33AM FOR US AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHEN THERE'S CLEARLY NO
10:52:36AM SIGNIFICANT DANGER THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST 10, 20, 30,
10:52:40AM 40 YEARS, WHY WOULD THIS BE SUCH AN ARGUMENT FOR MACDILL AIR
10:52:44AM FORCE BASE BESIDES THAT?
10:52:45AM WHEN YOU CLEARLY HAVE A WELCOME CENTER THERE THAT BRINGS
10:52:50AM ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THERE.
10:52:54AM >> BECAUSE THE SEVERITY OF THE DANGER THAT EXISTS.
10:52:56AM IT'S NOT ABOUT --
10:52:58AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ALREADY CLASSIFIED THAT BECAUSE NOTHING
10:53:01AM HAS HAPPENED.
10:53:02AM OBVIOUSLY, MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE HAS DONE A VERY GOOD JOB.
10:53:05AM LET'S TALK ABOUT -- LET'S MOVE ON FROM THAT BECAUSE CLEARLY
10:53:09AM NOTHING HAS HAPPENED.
10:53:10AM IF THERE WAS A DANGEROUS SITUATION, WHAT WOULD YOU DO FOR
10:53:15AM THE PEOPLE AT THE WELCOME CENTER?
10:53:17AM >> WHAT'S THAT?
10:53:18AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IN THE SENSE, IT IS A CLEAR ZONE AND YOU
10:53:22AM HAVE A WAIVER TO HAVE A WELCOME CENTER THERE, IF SOMETHING
10:53:26AM WERE TO HAPPEN THAT WAS DANGEROUS, WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE?
10:53:30AM >> WE WOULD --
10:53:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHO IS ANSWERING THAT QUESTION?
10:53:36AM >> ULTIMATELY WE WOULD CLOSE DOWN THE VISITOR CENTER.

10:53:38AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW DO YOU DO THAT?
10:53:40AM >> WE CONTROL THE AREA AND CLOSE IT DOWN AND WE CONTROL
10:53:43AM ACCESS TO THE VISITOR CENTER.
10:53:44AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COULD YOU INFORM THE PARKING LOT PEOPLE
10:53:46AM AND PARK PEOPLE TO CLOSE IT DOWN?
10:53:48AM COULDN'T WE DO THE SAME THING FOR THAT AREA?
10:53:51AM >> WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT AREA.
10:53:53AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COULD WE --
10:53:54AM >> CAN I DO A POINT OF ORDER?
10:53:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO, NO, YOU CANNOT.
10:54:01AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION IS, A POINT OF ORDER HAS BEEN
10:54:04AM RAISED.
10:54:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS, FOR COUNCIL PROCEDURE,
10:54:09AM IF WE COULD HAVE QUESTION AND AN ANSWER.
10:54:12AM THAT'S ALL FOR THE OFFICER.
10:54:14AM THAT'S IT, MR. CHAIR.
10:54:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHATEVER THE CHAIR'S RULING ON THE POINT OF
10:54:20AM ORDER.
10:54:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF MY THOUGHT.
10:54:22AM I KNOW IT'S TOUGH QUESTIONING, BUT I THINK IT'S REASONABLE.
10:54:26AM THE PUBLIC IS LISTENING.
10:54:27AM I HAVE THESE QUESTIONS.
10:54:28AM I'M NOT GOING TO KEEP THEM TO MYSELF.
10:54:31AM WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.
10:54:33AM ME CHALLENGING THE MILITARY, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH

10:54:35AM THAT.
10:54:36AM NOTHING AGAINST THE LAW, IS IT?
10:54:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, THAT'S NOT MY ISSUE.
10:54:43AM MY ISSUE IS HAVE A QUESTION AND TIME FOR AN ANSWER.
10:54:45AM IF YOU WANT TO TAKE SIX HOURS WITH QUESTIONS, YOUR GOD-GIVEN
10:54:49AM RIGHT.
10:54:50AM THANK YOU.
10:54:51AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOW, JUST LIKE IN THE CLASSROOM, I FORGOT
10:54:54AM WHAT I WAS SAYING AND THE STUDENTS USUALLY HELP ME OUT WITH
10:54:57AM THAT.
10:54:59AM >> YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IT BEING CLOSED, AUTHORITY TO HAVE
10:55:02AM IT CLOSED --
10:55:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR, NO, NO.
10:55:06AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
10:55:07AM THE WELCOME CENTER, IF THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY, YOU COULD
10:55:15AM SHUT IT DOWN.
10:55:17AM IS THERE A POSSIBILITY WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT YOU DO,
10:55:22AM COULD YOU INFORM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES TO DO THE SAME
10:55:28AM THING?
10:55:29AM >> WE COULD SIMPLY INFORM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES THAT
10:55:31AM THERE WAS AN ISSUE, MA'AM.
10:55:33AM BUT THE SCOPE OF THE PROBLEM IS NOT WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THERE
10:55:36AM IS A DANGER.
10:55:37AM IT'S THE DANGER TO THE PERSONNEL THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE
10:55:39AM THERE OR THE PERSONS THAT WOULD BE THERE IF THERE WAS A

10:55:42AM CATASTROPHIC CRASH OR ANOTHER ISSUE THAT HAPPENED DURING
10:55:45AM THAT ZONE, WHICH IF THE PARK AND THE PARKING LOT ARE BUILT
10:55:48AM THERE, WE CERTAINLY CANNOT STOP THAT IF THERE ARE
10:55:52AM INDIVIDUALS THERE BEFORE THE CRASH HAPPENS BECAUSE WE DON'T
10:55:54AM KNOW THAT IT'S COMING.
10:55:56AM THAT'S WHY THERE IS A CLEAR ZONE, THAT'S WHY THERE IS A
10:55:59AM BUFFER THAT EXISTS.
10:56:00AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: LET'S STEP OUTSIDE OF MACDILL AIR FORCE
10:56:02AM BASE.
10:56:03AM IN A CLEAR ZONE IN THE UNITED STATES, HAVE YOU ALL EVER SHUT
10:56:08AM DOWN A WELCOME CENTER IN A CLEAR ZONE AT OTHER BASES?
10:56:14AM HAS THAT HAPPENED?
10:56:17AM >> WE CERTAINLY SHUT DOWN VISITOR CENTERS.
10:56:19AM I DON'T KNOW EVERY POTENTIAL CRASH THAT HAS HAPPENED AT
10:56:23AM EVERY DAYS.
10:56:24AM AGAIN, PART OF THE REASON THAT WE HAVE A CLEAR ZONE THAT
10:56:27AM EXISTS, WHICH DOES EXIST AT EVERY AIR FORCE INSTALLATION, A
10:56:31AM CLEAR ZONE THAT EXISTS TO MINIMIZE ANY POTENTIAL DAMAGE IF
10:56:36AM THERE IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS DURING THAT CLEAR ZONE.
10:56:39AM THAT IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE BEHIND THE CLEAR ZONE.
10:56:41AM I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT OTHER INSTALLATIONS MAY OR MAY NOT
10:56:44AM HAVE HAD AT THEIR VISITOR CENTERS, MA'AM.
10:56:47AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MY LAST QUESTION.
10:56:49AM DID YOU GET THE WAIVER TO BUILD THE WELCOME CENTER?
10:56:52AM DID YOU DO IT BEFORE OR AFTER?

10:56:57AM >> TONY CAN SPEAK TO THAT MORE INTELLIGENTLY THAN I CAN,
10:57:00AM MA'AM.
10:57:01AM >> WAIVER HAS TO BE OBTAINED BEFORE CONSTRUCTION BEGINS.
10:57:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
10:57:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA AND COUNCIL
10:57:06AM MEMBER CARLSON.
10:57:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE] -- INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE
10:57:14AM PRESENTING THE CASE.
10:57:17AM HAVE YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT THIS CASE?
10:57:18AM WHAT WAS THE RESULT?
10:57:22AM >> YES, SIR.
10:57:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M ASKING BOTH SIDES TO ANSWER THIS
10:57:25AM THING.
10:57:25AM I HAVE TO GET SOME CLARITY.
10:57:27AM HEARING ONE THING ON ONE SIDE AND OPPOSITE FROM THE OTHER
10:57:30AM AND WE'RE NOT ANY CLOSER THAN WE WERE BEFORE.
10:57:34AM >> THIS PAST MONDAY WE HAD A TEAMS MEETING WITH
10:57:37AM REPRESENTATIVES FROM CITY OF TAMPA AND THE DEVELOPER TEAM.
10:57:40AM WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY,
10:57:45AM EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT AT OUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING.
10:57:49AM UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T BELIEVE WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE ANY
10:57:52AM NEW GROUND AS FAR AS A COMPROMISE THAT WOULD ALLOW A PARK TO
10:57:57AM BE BUILT WITHIN THE CLEAR ZONE, WHICH IS OUR MAJOR CONCERN.
10:58:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:58:04AM I'M SORRY.

10:58:08AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:58:10AM >> COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YES, I JUST WANT TO SAY WE ABSOLUTELY
10:58:14AM RESPECT THE BASE.
10:58:14AM THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING.
10:58:16AM TO CLARIFY JUST SOME TERMINOLOGY, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING A
10:58:20AM PARK.
10:58:20AM THIS IS A TRAILHEAD.
10:58:21AM FITS THE DEFINITION OF A TRAILHEAD.
10:58:23AM WE WORKED WITH THE CITY SPECIFICALLY ON THIS.
10:58:25AM THE CITY GOT THE LAND.
10:58:27AM I'M HAPPY TO DO IT ON REBUTTAL TO GO THROUGH THE RESOLUTION
10:58:30AM OF WHAT IT SAYS WHICH I THINK IS IN THE SPIRIT OF EXACTLY
10:58:32AM WHAT WE'RE DOING.
10:58:33AM WE CAME TO THE TABLE ON MONDAY WITH ADDITIONAL IDEAS TO MAKE
10:58:36AM THIS EVEN MORE PASSIVE AND LESS OF A PLACE OF CONGREGATION.
10:58:40AM THAT'S WHEN WE PROPOSED, STATE ON THE RECORD THERE WILL
10:58:44AM NEVER BE RESTROOMS AT THE FACILITY.
10:58:45AM STATE ON THE RECORD, THIS WILL NEVER BE A PARK PROGRAMMED SO
10:58:49AM IT IS AN AREA OF CONGREGATION.
10:58:50AM WE PROPOSED THAT WE'LL HAVE SIGNAGE THAT THIS IS NOT FOR
10:58:53AM CONGREGATION.
10:58:53AM THIS IS LITERALLY FOR PEOPLE TO PASS THROUGH ON THE
10:58:57AM TRAILHEAD.
10:58:57AM I'LL GO THROUGH THE RESOLUTION ON REBUTTAL, BUT THAT'S THE
10:59:02AM ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WE PRESENTED TO HOPE TO

10:59:04AM ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS.
10:59:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE MEETING.
10:59:10AM >> THAT WAS DISCUSSED, OFFERED AND NOT RECEIVED.
10:59:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:59:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: FIRST OF ALL, SOUTH TAMPA, MacDILL,
10:59:22AM YOU'RE IN MY DISTRICT.
10:59:23AM THIS IS OF PARTICULAR IMPORTANCE TO ME.
10:59:27AM I RESPECT AND UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF MacDILL THROUGH
10:59:31AM THE TAMPA CHAMBER.
10:59:33AM BEEN INVOLVED TANGENTIALLY SEVERAL TIMES.
10:59:38AM I THINK AS A COMMUNITY WE APPRECIATE AND RESPECT
10:59:40AM MacDILL.
10:59:41AM ALSO VERY SMALL THING.
10:59:43AM I WAS A CADET COMMANDER OF CIVIL AIR SQUADRON WHEN IN HIGH
10:59:47AM SCHOOL.
10:59:47AM TRAINED BY THE AIR FORCE TOO.
10:59:51AM STARTED READING PUBLIC AFFAIRS MANUALS.
10:59:53AM BEEN IN AND AROUND THE AIR FORCE AND UNDERSTAND THE
10:59:57AM IMPORTANCE OF FLIGHT LINES AND FLIGHT SAFETY AND THESE CLEAR
11:00:01AM ZONES.
11:00:02AM I THINK THE QUESTION HERE IS CAN WE -- IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME
11:00:07AM LIKE IT HAS TO BE EITHER-OR.
11:00:09AM SEEMS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE SOME ROOM TO MANEUVER.
11:00:12AM LET ME SET UP A PREMISE AND THEN WE CAN GET YOUR RESPONSE.
11:00:15AM FIRST OF ALL, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE TO TAKE THE WORD PARK

11:00:20AM COMPLETELY OFF THE TABLE.
11:00:22AM I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT WOULD ULTIMATELY BE UNDER PARKS OR
11:00:25AM MOBILITY, BUT FROM WHAT I RECALL, YOU SAID LAST TIME WHEN
11:00:29AM YOU ALL INITIALLY WORKED WITH THE CITY TO ACQUIRE THIS LAND,
11:00:34AM YOU ENVISIONED THAT IT WOULD NOT BE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE
11:00:37AM COULD CONGREGATE BUT IT WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A PATHWAY FOR
11:00:42AM THE BICYCLE LANE.
11:00:44AM I THINK ORIGINALLY THE DEVELOPER HAD PROPOSED SPENDING A LOT
11:00:48AM OF MONEY ON A PARK AS AN AMENITY.
11:00:50AM THEY REALIZED SINCE THEN IT CAN'T BE A PARK.
11:00:53AM BUT IT SEEMS TO ME WE SHOULD NOT CALL IT A PARK.
11:00:57AM I DON'T KNOW WHETHER TRAILHEAD IS THE RIGHT WORD OR
11:01:00AM SOMETHING ELSE, PASS THROUGH, JUST A COMPONENT OF THE CYCLE
11:01:05AM WAY.
11:01:05AM IF YOU ALL WERE OKAY WITH THAT PREMISE BACK THEN, I WOULD
11:01:08AM SAY LET'S STAY TRUE ON THE PARK PART OF IT LETS STAY TRUE TO
11:01:12AM WHAT YOU ALL PROMISED BACK THEN OR WHAT YOU ALL WERE OKAY
11:01:15AM WITH.
11:01:16AM TRANSIENT PEOPLE WOULD BE ON BICYCLES AND PASS THROUGH AND
11:01:18AM NOT PUT ANY AMENITIES THERE, LET'S NOT EVEN CALL IT A PARK.
11:01:23AM THAT'S ABOUT -- I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY, TWO-THIRDS,
11:01:26AM THREE-QUARTERS OF THE LAND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
11:01:27AM THE OTHER PART OF IT IS THAT LITTLE TRIANGLE ON I THINK
11:01:32AM WESTERN SIDE WHICH IS PART OF THE PARKING LOT.
11:01:36AM I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY CARS ARE THERE, BUT YOU HAD TWO

11:01:40AM CONCERNS.
11:01:41AM ONE IS YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO CONGREGATE.
11:01:45AM AS I LOOK AT IT, PEOPLE PARK THEIR CAR.
11:01:48AM THEY ARE THERE FOR A FEW SECONDS AND THEN LEAVE.
11:01:51AM TYPICALLY PEOPLE DON'T CONGREGATE.
11:01:53AM IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE HOTEL ALSO COULD WORK ON
11:01:56AM PRIORITIZATION OF PARKING SO THEY CAN PUT CARS PRIMARILY
11:02:00AM OUTSIDE OF THAT ZONE.
11:02:01AM BUT IF THEY NEED IT, IT'S OVERFILL BUT INSIST PEOPLE DON'T
11:02:06AM STAND THERE.
11:02:06AM YOU TALK ABOUT THE VERTICAL HEIGHT WHICH I THINK EVERYBODY
11:02:09AM WOULD UNDERSTAND WE DON'T WANT TO PUT UP OBSTRUCTIONS.
11:02:12AM MAYBE A DIFFERENT WAY TO LIGHT THE PARKING LOT OR LIGHT THAT
11:02:15AM SECTION.
11:02:15AM WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE WELCOME CENTER.
11:02:21AM ONE OF MY SONS GOES TO SCHOOL NEAR MacDILL.
11:02:24AM SO I DRIVE DOWN DALE MABRY EVERY DAY.
11:02:27AM YESTERDAY, IT WAS BACKED UP NORTH OF GANDY.
11:02:30AM SO THERE WERE PROBABLY A HUNDRED OR MORE CARS FULL OF
11:02:36AM PEOPLE, REALLY IMPORTANT PEOPLE PROBABLY GOING ON BASE WHO
11:02:40AM WERE IN THAT CLEAR ZONE.
11:02:42AM IT SEEMS TO ME THAT'S MORE OF A RISK THAN THE WELCOME CENTER
11:02:46AM AND THERE MAY BE OTHER CASES HERE.
11:02:48AM MY BIG QUESTION TO YOU IS, IF WE SAY WE'RE STRICTLY GOING TO
11:02:52AM STICK TO THE ORIGINAL PREMISE OF THAT PIECE OF THE LAND AND

11:02:56AM ONLY MAKE IT A PASS-THROUGH, NO AMENITIES, DON'T EVEN CALL
11:03:01AM IT A PARK IS THAT ACCEPTABLE?
11:03:02AM ON THE SMALL PIECE THAT WOULD HAVE CARS, IS IT OKAY THAT WE
11:03:06AM MAYBE PRIORITIZE NOT USING IT, THAT WE MAKE SURE PEOPLE
11:03:11AM DON'T CONGREGATE THERE AND THAT WE USE LOWER LEVEL LIGHTS.
11:03:15AM WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE, UNDERSTANDING THE CONCERNS?
11:03:22AM >> CHRIS PARKER.
11:03:23AM I'M AN ATTORNEY AT THE INSTALLATION LEGAL OFFICE.
11:03:26AM TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION, I THINK OUR COMPROMISE IS THE
11:03:29AM TRAILHEAD.
11:03:30AM THE GREENWAY AND TRAILHEADS, AS LONG AS IT'S A PASS-THROUGH.
11:03:35AM WE SEE PEOPLE WILL USE THEIR BIKES AND CONTINUE TO GO
11:03:39AM THROUGH THE PROPOSALS WE SAW WAS A CIRCULAR TRAIL, POTENTIAL
11:03:42AM BENCHES AND A PARKING LOT WHICH MEANS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING
11:03:46AM TO CONGREGATE, STAY THERE.
11:03:48AM THEY MIGHT EVEN, KIDS, PEOPLE WILL DO ACTIVITIES THERE.
11:03:52AM WE ARE I THINK OUR COMPROMISE IS THE TRAILHEAD, THE ORIGINAL
11:03:58AM THOUGHT PROCESS FROM THE GRANT AND TO CONNECT THE TWO SIDES,
11:04:02AM THE TWO BAYS.
11:04:05AM TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION ON THE PARKING, AGAIN, IT GOES BACK
11:04:08AM TO OUR MAIN GOAL HERE AND THE REASON WHY WE DO THIS STUDY
11:04:13AM AND WE DO IT AT EVERY INSTALLATION IS FOR SAFETY.
11:04:16AM TO LIMIT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITIES
11:04:19AM TO LIMIT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY PARKING LOTS,
11:04:22AM PARKS, ANYWHERE WHERE SOMEONE WILL CONGREGATE.

11:04:25AM IF YOU HAVE A TRAILHEAD, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PARK THERE.
11:04:28AM THEY ARE GOING TO GO AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE GONE FOR LONG
11:04:31AM PERIODS OF TIME ON TOP OF THAT, I GO TO GADSDEN PARK ALL THE
11:04:35AM TIME.
11:04:35AM I CAN TELL YOU THERE ARE VEHICLES THERE THROUGHOUT THE DAY
11:04:38AM THAT STAY THERE CONSTANTLY, AND THEY LEAVE THEIR VEHICLES
11:04:43AM THERE.
11:04:44AM THAT'S WHERE YOU TEND -- THAT'S WHAT YOU TEND TO SEE AT ALL
11:04:48AM PARKS.
11:04:48AM OUR WORRY THERE IS THAT THAT PARKING LOT WILL BE USED
11:04:52AM CONSTANTLY.
11:04:52AM THAT'S NOT EVEN TO MENTION THE HOTEL.
11:04:54AM THAT PARKING LOT IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE HOTEL, THE PROPOSED
11:04:58AM HOTEL ON THE EASTERN PART OF THE PARCEL.
11:05:00AM IT SEEMS LIKE THAT PARKING LOT WILL ALSO BE POTENTIALLY USED
11:05:04AM FOR HOTEL PARKING, WHICH MEANS YOU AGAIN HAVE VEHICLES
11:05:08AM STAYING THERE LONGER PERIODS OF TIME AND POTENTIALLY PEOPLE
11:05:13AM BEING THERE AT THOSE VEHICLES.
11:05:15AM AS FAR AS LIGHTING, I'M NOT SURE OF THE CITY REGULATIONS ON
11:05:21AM LIGHTING.
11:05:22AM I KNOW USUALLY IT IS VERTICAL LIGHTING IN PARKING LOTS FOR
11:05:25AM MOST CITIES.
11:05:27AM I CAN'T ANSWER THAT IF THAT IS A POTENTIAL.
11:05:29AM YEAH, OUR ISSUE WITH THAT IS THIS IS WHERE OUR AIRCRAFT TAKE
11:05:33AM OFF.

11:05:34AM THAT'S WHY IT IS THE CLEAR ZONE.
11:05:37AM WE WANT NO VERTICAL DEVELOPMENTS FOR THAT REASON.
11:05:40AM AND ESPECIALLY LIGHTING COMING FROM VERTICAL DEVELOPMENTS
11:05:43AM CAN ALSO CAUSE AN ISSUE.
11:05:45AM ONE POINT THAT I DON'T THINK HAS BEEN RAISED HERE IS I THINK
11:05:49AM WE HAVE NOT ANALYZED THE PROPOSED HOTEL, THE FIVE-STORY
11:05:54AM PROPOSED HOTEL ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PARCEL.
11:05:57AM I THINK IT'S OUR REQUEST THAT INSTEAD OF FIRST LOOKING AT
11:06:00AM THE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PARK AND PARKING LOT OR TRAILHEAD
11:06:06AM THAT INSTEAD WE ANALYZE WHETHER, HEY, THE FIVE STORY PARK
11:06:11AM THAT IS GOING TO BE CLOSE TO THE CLEAR ZONE, RIGHT WHERE WE
11:06:15AM HAVE AIRCRAFT TAKING OFF IT ALSO GETS ANALYZED.
11:06:18AM IT GETS ANALYZED BY FAA.
11:06:20AM IT GOES THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
11:06:21AM WE SEE IT AS BACKWARDS.
11:06:23AM WHY ARE WE DOING THE PARK OR THE PARKING LOT FOR THE
11:06:28AM TRAILHEAD WHICH SEEMS TO BE CONNECTED TO THIS HOTEL, WHY IS
11:06:31AM THAT ANALYSIS AND PROPOSAL GOING FIRST?
11:06:35AM WHEN WE BROUGHT THAT UP AT THAT MEETING, THEY JUST SAID,
11:06:38AM HEY, IT SEEMED LIKE YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE THAT HOTEL AND PARK
11:06:43AM WITHOUT CLEANING UP THIS AREA.
11:06:45AM IT SEEMS TO US LIKE THE INTENDED PURPOSE IS LESS THE PARK OR
11:06:49AM TRAILHEAD AND MORE TO MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR THAT
11:06:54AM HOTEL.
11:06:54AM WE HAVE A CONCERN WITH THAT.

11:06:56AM SO WHAT OUR PROPOSAL WOULD BE IS, ONE, WE STICK TO THE
11:06:59AM TRAILHEAD, THE GREENS AND TRAILS THAT WE'VE ALWAYS KIND OF
11:07:06AM BEEN OUR POSITION, AND THEN ALSO IF THERE IS A PROPOSED
11:07:09AM HOTEL THERE, THAT WE ANALYZE THAT FIRST.
11:07:13AM IT SEEMS WE'RE GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES.
11:07:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:07:23AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:07:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOSH, WHERE TO BEGIN?
11:07:29AM SIMILAR TO WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I HAVE AIR TRAFFIC
11:07:34AM CONTROL EXPERIENCE AND DID A LOT OF THIS TYPE OF STUDY AND
11:07:37AM WORK, DIFFERENT AIRPORTS.
11:07:38AM TO BE CLEAR, PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, CLEAR ZONES ARE AROUND EVERY
11:07:43AM AIRPORT IN THE UNITED STATES.
11:07:45AM NOT JUST AIR FORCE BASE INSTALLATIONS.
11:07:48AM CLEAR ZONES ARE TWOFOLD.
11:07:50AM PROTECT ASSETS ON THE GROUND BUT ALSO PROTECT THE AIRCRAFT
11:07:53AM ASSETS.
11:07:53AM THAT'S WHY THEY ARE ESTABLISHED.
11:07:55AM THAT BEING SAID, I'M SORRY, BUT THIS SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF
11:08:01AM FUSS ABOUT VERY LITTLE.
11:08:03AM THIS IS A VERY LOW IMPACT PROJECT IN A CLEAR ZONE.
11:08:09AM I THINK I SAID IN THE FIRST HEARING THAT OUR AIRPORTS HAVE
11:08:15AM BEEN DEVELOPED AND SPECIFICALLY THE AIR FORCE BASE DEVELOPED
11:08:18AM IN AN URBAN AREA.
11:08:19AM IDEAL SITUATION, THESE THINGS WOULD EXIST IN THE MIDDLE OF

11:08:22AM OKLAHOMA, WHICH SOME OF THEM DO.
11:08:30AM LARGE SWATHES OF LANDS AVAILABLE BUT REACH COMPROMISES.
11:08:33AM WHEN WE HAVE URBAN DEVELOPMENT.
11:08:35AM JUST FOR CLARIFICATION OF THE RECORD, ON THE VERTICAL
11:08:38AM DEVELOPMENT ASPECT OF THIS, TALKING ABOUT LIGHTING POLES.
11:08:42AM WE CAN'T RESTRICT MADAM CHAIR.
11:08:44AM PINE TREES CAN BE IN THESE AREAS.
11:08:46AM WE'RE NOT CLEAR CUTTING THIS PARCEL.
11:08:49AM THAT VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT IS SPECIFICALLY TO PROTECT --
11:08:54AM YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO SAVE THE LIFE OF A LIGHT POLE.
11:08:57AM TRYING TO PROTECT THE AIRCRAFT OPERATION.
11:08:59AM BUT A TREE COULD BE THERE AT THE SAME EXACT TIME.
11:09:02AM NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A 30-FOOT PINE TREE AND 30-FOOT LIGHT
11:09:10AM POLE.
11:09:10AM CORRECT?
11:09:10AM ANYBODY FOR THE RECORD?
11:09:19AM >> CORRECT, SIR.
11:09:20AM 30-FOOT OBSTRUCTION IS 30-FOOT OBSTRUCTION, MAN MADE OR
11:09:24AM NATURAL.
11:09:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECONDLY, THIS IS PROBABLY FOR CITY
11:09:28AM COUNCIL STAFF, MS. JOHNS, MAYBE.
11:09:31AM SOME LEGAL ADVICE.
11:09:32AM WHERE WE ARE WITH THE CITY'S POSITION AND THE DISPOSITION OF
11:09:38AM THIS LAND, THE AIR FORCE BASE, AGAIN, CRITICAL
11:09:44AM INFRASTRUCTURE.

11:09:45AM WE ALL RESPECT THE MILITARY AND THE ROLE THE AIR FORCE BASE
11:09:47AM PLAYS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, WHAT AN ECONOMIC DRIVER IT IS
11:09:50AM AND FOR THE DEFENSE OF THE UNITED STATES.
11:09:52AM BUT FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT OUTSIDE OF THE LAND THAT THEY OWN
11:09:55AM AND THIS LAND HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE
11:09:58AM AIR FORCE BASE'S CAPACITY HERE IS JUST ADVICE AND COUNSEL.
11:10:01AM THIS IS UP TO THE CITY TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THIS
11:10:04AM DEVELOPMENT, CORRECT?
11:10:05AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: THAT'S CORRECT.
11:10:06AM I THINK THEY ACKNOWLEDGED AT THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING THAT
11:10:08AM THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION.
11:10:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RECOMMENDATION.
11:10:11AM I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.
11:10:12AM AND THE CITY OF TAMPA'S POSITION THAT THIS IS THE BEST USE
11:10:15AM OF THIS PROPERTY TO DEVELOP THIS AS THIS PARK, SLASH,
11:10:18AM TRAILHEAD AND REACH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE
11:10:21AM DEVELOPER.
11:10:22AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: THAT IS CORRECT.
11:10:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY THE ATTORNEY FOR
11:10:26AM THE AIR FORCE WAS YOU DISCUSSED THIS POTENTIAL HOTEL
11:10:32AM DEVELOPMENT, MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS, AGAIN, NOT WHAT
11:10:35AM WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS TODAY, BECAUSE WE'RE HERE TALKING
11:10:37AM ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE PARKING LOT AND THE
11:10:42AM PARK, BUT THE HOTEL, THIS PROPOSED HOTEL IS NOT IN THE CLEAR
11:10:45AM ZONE, IS THAT CORRECT, MR. TRUETT?

11:10:48AM >> CORRECT.
11:10:48AM JUST TO ADD BRIEFLY TO THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S AN
11:10:52AM IMPORTANT QUESTION, ALREADY A HOTEL THAT'S BEEN APPROVED.
11:10:56AM WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IS A POTENTIAL SECOND HOTEL.
11:10:59AM THAT IS NOT ON THE TABLE AT ALL.
11:11:00AM THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
11:11:03AM MOST IMPORTANTLY TO THAT, THIS TRAILHEAD IS TIED TO
11:11:07AM OBTAINING THE C.O. FOR HOTEL ONE HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO
11:11:11AM DO WITH HOTEL TWO.
11:11:12AM HOTEL TWO IS MERE SPECULATION IN THE FUTURE.
11:11:15AM WE'LL OBVIOUSLY WORK WITH THE BASE IF THAT IS THE PROPOSAL
11:11:19AM TO MAKE SURE IT FITS WITHIN THEIR HEIGHT LIMITATIONS AND
11:11:22AM EVERYTHING ELSE.
11:11:24AM I THINK THE CRITICAL THING, WHICH I THINK WAS MISSING OR
11:11:27AM DIDN'T CONNECT ON THE MEETING WE HAD ON MONDAY, IS THE
11:11:30AM CONSTRUCTION OF THIS TRAILHEAD IS TIED TO HOTEL ONE, HAS
11:11:35AM NOTHING TO DO WITH HOTEL TWO.
11:11:38AM MERE CONJECTURE AT THIS POINT.
11:11:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I UNDERSTAND, BEING IN AVIATION 32 YEARS
11:11:44AM OF MY LIFE, I UNDERSTAND THE POSITION AND THE PROPRIETARY
11:11:47AM POSITION OF THE AIR FORCE BASE PROTECTING THEIR TURF BECAUSE
11:11:49AM THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
11:11:50AM WE HAVE TO REACH SOME SEMBLANCE OF COMPROMISE IN THE URBAN
11:12:00AM DEVELOPMENT, URBAN AREAS.
11:12:01AM FOR ME, BASED ON MY BACKGROUND AND EXPERIENCE, THIS IS A

11:12:05AM REALLY LOW DENSITY DEVELOPMENT.
11:12:09AM POTENTIALLY AS LOW DENSITY AS YOU COULD POSSIBLY GET WITHOUT
11:12:12AM LEAVING IT AS BARREN LAND.
11:12:15AM I'M HAVING DIFFICULTY.
11:12:20AM SEEMS LIKE WHERE GOVERNMENT SOMETIMES GETS IN THE WAY OF
11:12:23AM ITSELF, BECOME BUREAUCRATIC AND ALLOW COMMON SENSE TO FLY
11:12:28AM OUT THE WINDOW, THAT, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TURNING THIS INTO A
11:12:32AM FAIRGROUNDS, NOT TURNING IT INTO DISNEY WORLD, NOT TURNING
11:12:35AM IT INTO THIS MAJOR PROJECT.
11:12:38AM IT LITERALLY IS A CIRCULAR PATH.
11:12:41AM I DON'T SEE 500 PEOPLE GOING OUT THERE CUTTING CIRCLES ON
11:12:44AM THE SIDEWALK ALL DAY LONG.
11:12:47AM WE'VE GOT, AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, DALE MABRY HIGHWAY IS
11:12:51AM BACKED UP WITH HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS OF CARS IN ANY
11:12:56AM GIVEN DAY.
11:12:57AM THE WELCOME CENTER, I THINK YOU SAID YOURSELF, THE MILITARY
11:13:01AM GRANTS -- GREAT PRIVILEGE TO HAVE TO SAY WHEN IT IS IN THE
11:13:06AM BEST INTEREST OF THE AIR FORCE BASE.
11:13:08AM HAVE TO THANK, TOO, THE AIR FORCE BASE, DEVELOPMENT OF
11:13:12AM HOTELS.
11:13:13AM ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WE HAVE WITH MILITARY
11:13:15AM INSTALLATIONS IS VISITORS AND STAFF THAT ARE COMING IN TO BE
11:13:19AM ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE IN HOTELS AND HAVING THIS TYPE OF
11:13:22AM DEVELOPMENT IS SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY.
11:13:27AM IT'S GOOD FOR MacDILL.

11:13:28AM GOOD FOR TAMPA.
11:13:29AM GOOD FOR THE AREA.
11:13:30AM THAT'S MY POINT.
11:13:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:13:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:13:35AM I COULDN'T DISAGREE MORE WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
11:13:37AM WE DON'T NEED TO COMPROMISE.
11:13:38AM WE ABSOLUTELY DON'T NEED TO COMPROMISE.
11:13:40AM WE ARE COMPROMISING OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE BASE, IN MY
11:13:45AM VIEW, BY DOING THIS.
11:13:51AM I'M AN AVID TRAIL USER.
11:13:53AM TRAIL HEADS DO NOT HAVE CIRCULAR PATHS.
11:13:56AM THEY DO NOT HAVE BENCHES.
11:13:58AM TRAILHEADS THREE HAVE A SIGN THAT SHOWS YOU WHERE YOU'RE
11:14:02AM GOING.
11:14:03AM I DO NOT THINK A TRAILHEAD IS A GOOD IDEA.
11:14:05AM THE OTHER THING TRAILHEADS HAVE, HE'S CORRECT, PARKING.
11:14:08AM ANY PARK YOU GO TO.
11:14:10AM I MEAN, I GO PAST HENRY AND OLA EVERY DAY WITH MY DOG.
11:14:17AM THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CAMP THERE.
11:14:19AM I DON'T CALL THEM OUT.
11:14:21AM BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.
11:14:23AM THEY MOVE FROM PARK TO PARK BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE THE CARS
11:14:27AM OVER TIME.
11:14:28AM IF YOU PUT A PARKING SPACE, SOMEONE IS GOING TO USE IT.

11:14:30AM I AM FINE WITH IT SIMPLY BEING A PATH THROUGH LIKE IT WAS
11:14:37AM ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO BE.
11:14:39AM BUT MY OTHER CONCERN IS THE CONCERN THAT, WELL, NOTHING HAS
11:14:43AM HAPPENED.
11:14:44AM IF NOTHING IS PROVEN THIS WEEK, A HUNDRED YEARS SINCE A
11:14:47AM HURRICANE HAS COME THROUGH, WHAT HAPPENS IF IT HAPPENS NEXT
11:14:50AM WEEK?
11:14:50AM A JET DOESN'T MAKE -- THE THING ABOUT CONTROLLING ACCESS IS
11:14:58AM ONCE YOU JOIN THE MILITARY, YOU BELONG TO THE MILITARY.
11:15:02AM IF THE MILITARY TELLS YOU TO BE IN THAT SPACE AS A WELCOME
11:15:06AM CENTER, THAT'S THEIR JOB.
11:15:07AM THEY HAVE TO DO IT.
11:15:09AM EVEN IF IT IS A DANGER ZONE.
11:15:10AM THAT'S WHAT THE MILITARY IS.
11:15:11AM THAT'S WHAT AGREEING TO BE A PART OF THE MILITARY IS.
11:15:14AM I AM JUST SHOCKED THAT PEOPLE ARE OKAY WITH THIS.
11:15:18AM I WOULD LOVE AND APPRECIATE IF THE DEVELOPER -- I DO NOT
11:15:25AM WANT TO BE CREATING THIS HERE ON THE DAIS.
11:15:28AM I BELIEVE IT SHOULD GO BACK AND YOU ALL SHOULD FIGURE IT
11:15:31AM OUT, HOW TO HAVE NO LOOP, HOW TO SIMPLY HAVE A PATHWAY
11:15:35AM THROUGH JUST LIKE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO AND THEN FIGURE IT
11:15:39AM OUT.
11:15:40AM I ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT DO ANYTHING THAT COMPROMISES THE
11:15:43AM CITY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH THE BASE.
11:15:45AM I AM NOT WILLING TO PUT ANYONE IN DANGER WHO SITS AT A

11:15:52AM BENCH, LIVES OUT OF A CAR.
11:15:55AM I'M SIMPLY NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
11:15:57AM I'M ACTUALLY SHOCKED THAT PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO THINK THAT
11:16:04AM COMPROMISE IS SOMETHING THAT'S ABLE TO BE DONE HERE.
11:16:07AM A COMPROMISE IS SIMPLY STICKING WITH WHAT YOU HAD BEFORE,
11:16:10AM WHICH WAS SIMPLY A TRAIL, NO LOOP, NO BENCH, NO OPEN BASE
11:16:15AM BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU LEAVE OPEN SPACE, PEOPLE WILL
11:16:19AM USE IT.
11:16:19AM THEY JUST SIMPLY WILL.
11:16:21AM MY OTHER OPTION, I DON'T KNOW IF THE BASE WOULD BE WILLING
11:16:23AM TO BUY THE LAND.
11:16:25AM I WOULD BE WILLING TO SELL IT.
11:16:27AM I AM WILDLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IF, BECAUSE WE JUST WENT
11:16:35AM THROUGH A WHAT-IF.
11:16:37AM AND IT WASN'T PRETTY.
11:16:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:16:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WHAT YOU'RE
11:16:44AM MISSING, THERE ARE NO ABSOLUTES, ESPECIALLY IN AVIATION.
11:16:47AM I THINK THE AIR FORCE BASE WOULD RECOGNIZE THIS AS WELL,
11:16:49AM THAT IT IS A LOT OF RISK BENEFIT ANALYSIS.
11:16:51AM THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HUNDRED PERCENT SAFE AIRCRAFT
11:16:55AM OPERATIONS.
11:16:56AM YOU RUN THE RISK -- THERE ARE SAFETY RISKS IN EVERY
11:17:00AM OPERATION YOU RUN.
11:17:01AM THEN YOU DO ANALYSIS BASED ON THE BENEFITS AND THE RISK.

11:17:06AM AND I THINK -- THAT'S IN EVERYTHING BECAUSE AGAIN WE'RE IN
11:17:09AM AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT.
11:17:10AM WE'RE OPERATING HIGH PERFORMANCE, HIGH SPEED AND SOMETIMES
11:17:14AM DANGEROUS AIRCRAFT SPECIFICALLY AT AN AIR FORCE BASE.
11:17:17AM LOOK AT TAMPA INTERNATIONAL AND THE POTENTIAL IMPACT.
11:17:20AM WE HAVE VERY DENSE DEVELOPMENT AROUND TAMPA INTERNATIONAL
11:17:23AM AIRPORT.
11:17:24AM THEY DO PROTECT CLEAR ZONES AND THINGS BUT STILL A LOT OF
11:17:28AM RISK INVOLVED WITH AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS.
11:17:30AM THERE IS NO ABSOLUTES.
11:17:36AM YOU HAVE TO SAY WHAT THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF RISK THAT WE'RE
11:17:40AM WILLING TO ACCEPT.
11:17:43AM WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A HIGH-RISE, NOT TALKING
11:17:46AM ABOUT BUILDING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIVING
11:17:48AM THERE 24/7.
11:17:50AM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A REALLY, REALLY LOW DENSITY.
11:17:53AM I MEAN, AGAIN OTHER THAN LEAVING IT AS FERAL LAND FOR
11:17:57AM CHIPMUNKS OR SQUIRRELS, I DON'T THINK YOU COULD GET ANY
11:18:01AM LOWER DENSITY THAN THIS.
11:18:04AM AGAIN, THERE IS A BENEFIT TO NOT JUST THE AIR FORCE BASE.
11:18:07AM THERE IS A BENEFIT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA OF HAVING HOTEL ON
11:18:11AM THIS PROPERTY.
11:18:13AM IT'S A SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY, PRIVATE
11:18:16AM DEVELOPMENT, THE AIR FORCE BASE, THE PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE.
11:18:18AM BACK TO THE VISITOR CENTER, THE VISITOR CENTER IS NOT JUST

11:18:21AM FOR PEOPLE THAT SIGNED UP FOR THE MILITARY.
11:18:23AM THAT VISITOR CENTER IS FOR FOLKS DOING BUSINESS.
11:18:26AM HAVE TO ASSUME THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE COMING ON THE
11:18:29AM BASE ARE NOT MILITARY FOLKS.
11:18:31AM PEOPLE DOING BUSINESS WITH THE MILITARY, VISITORS WITH THE
11:18:33AM MILITARY, THE CONTRACTORS.
11:18:34AM IT'S A CITY UNTO ITSELF.
11:18:38AM SO PEOPLE ARE PASSING THROUGH THAT WELCOME GATES AND WELCOME
11:18:41AM CENTERS.
11:18:42AM A LOT OF FOLKS TRANSITIONING THROUGH THE AREA.
11:18:44AM NOT JUST ENLISTED MILITARY FOLKS.
11:18:54AM >> I'LL REBUT AT THE END.
11:18:56AM I WAS JUST GETTING AROUND HERE.
11:18:58AM >> GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
11:19:00AM COLONEL McGHEE.
11:19:02AM MISSION SUPPORT GROUP COMMANDER AT MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
11:19:05AM NOT ONLY 28-YEAR VETERAN OF THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE, I'M
11:19:09AM ALSO A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY SINCE 1973.
11:19:12AM I'VE SEEN A LOT OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT HERE.
11:19:15AM I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE VISITOR CONTROL CENTER AND
11:19:18AM TRAFFIC.
11:19:19AM TWO THINGS I'M FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR.
11:19:21AM I'VE NEVER SEEN THEM SO POPULAR BEFORE.
11:19:23AM I CAN TELL YOU, BOTH OF THOSE THINGS YOU MENTIONED, NOBODY
11:19:27AM WANTS TO BE IN THEM.

11:19:28AM THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN TRAFFIC.
11:19:30AM THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE VISITOR CONTROL CENTER.
11:19:32AM I MOVE PEOPLE THROUGH THE VISITOR CONTROL CENTER.
11:19:35AM I'M TRYING TO USE THE THEORY CONSTRAINT TO MOVE THEM THROUGH
11:19:39AM IN UNDER TEN MINUTES.
11:19:41AM DON'T WANT THEM AGGREGATING THERE.
11:19:43AM DON'T WANT PEOPLE IN TRAFFIC.
11:19:44AM IF YOU SAW THE TRAFFIC YESTERDAY AS ONE OF OUR MEMBERS
11:19:46AM MENTIONED, I WAS THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
11:19:48AM I WAS RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE WE KEPT THE BAYSHORE GATE CLOSED
11:19:52AM BECAUSE WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH BARRIERS.
11:19:54AM THERE ARE ALWAYS OTHER REASONS WHY THINGS HAPPEN.
11:19:57AM WHAT WE FOCUS ON IN THE MILITARY, WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY,
11:20:02AM WHICH, FOR ME, THERE ARE TWO THINGS HERE, SAFETY AND
11:20:05AM RELATIONSHIPS.
11:20:06AM I'LL FOCUS ON SAFETY FIRST.
11:20:08AM FOR SAFETY, EVERYTHING IS MEASURED BASED -- YOU SHOULD KNOW
11:20:10AM THIS FROM YOUR TIME AT THE FAA -- BASED ON PROBABILITY AND
11:20:14AM SEVERITY OF RISK.
11:20:16AM AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT, I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE NO MATTER WHERE
11:20:19AM YOU SIT, AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT IS A TEN ON SEVERITY.
11:20:23AM THE PROBABILITY USING HISTORY AT MacDILL IS PROBABLY A
11:20:27AM ZERO OR EVEN A ONE.
11:20:28AM BUT AS YOU START TO INCREASE THE PROBABILITY THAT ONE WILL
11:20:32AM HAPPEN OVER TIME, DOVER AIR FORCE BASE, WE HAD AN F-16, BY

11:20:37AM THE WAY, IN THIS COMMUNITY WHEN I WAS A MEMBER OF MACDILL
11:20:39AM AIR FORCE BASE BACK IN THE '90s, F-16 WENT RIGHT THROUGH A
11:20:43AM CESSNA, KILLED A MEMBER.
11:20:46AM I GOT IT --
11:20:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WAS IN THE CONTROL ROOM THAT DAY.
11:20:50AM >> SOMEHOW WE'RE CONNECTED IN SOME OF THE CHAOS.
11:20:53AM ALSO AS A MEMBER THAT SAT IN THE PORT MORTUARY DOVER,
11:20:57AM DELAWARE, ONLY PORT MORTUARY IN THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
11:21:00AM AFTER AN AIRPLANE HIT A BUILDING CALLED THE PENTAGON, NOT
11:21:03AM REALLY IMPRESSIVE TO SEE WHAT AN AIRPLANE DOES TO A HUMAN
11:21:08AM BODY.
11:21:08AM CAN I SHARE THAT WITH YOU -- I CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
11:21:11AM IF I SAID, HEY, COLONEL McGHEE IS ASKING ONE THING, I
11:21:15AM DON'T THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE VOTED.
11:21:17AM IF WE ARE AT AN IMPASSE WE RESOLVE IT BETWEEN OURSELVES.
11:21:21AM HERE IS WHY.
11:21:22AM THERE IS A VERY STRONG RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN MYSELF AS A
11:21:24AM MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY AND MYSELF AS A MEMBER OF THE UNITED
11:21:26AM STATES AIR FORCE.
11:21:27AM I SEE THAT AS WELL BETWEEN THE BASE AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:21:30AM WHEN I WALKED IN HERE, THERE WERE A BUNCH OF FLAGS ACROSS
11:21:33AM THE STREET.
11:21:34AM THE FIRST ONE WAS A U.S. FLAG, THEN A STATE FLAG, CITY FLAG
11:21:37AM AND THEN I THINK IT SAID HILTON HOTEL.
11:21:40AM EVERYTHING I'VE SEEN 28 YEARS FIGHTING WARS AND BATTLES IN

11:21:45AM COMBAT, COMES DOWN TO THREE THINGS, FEAR, HONOR, AND
11:21:48AM INTEREST.
11:21:49AM MY INTEREST AS THE SUPPORT COMMANDER AT THAT BASE IS SAFETY.
11:21:54AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INTEREST OF PUTTING A TRAILHEAD THERE,
11:21:58AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INTEREST IS.
11:21:59AM THERE ARE A MILLION OTHER PLACES.
11:22:01AM AS A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY, I CAN TELL YOU WHERE WE CAN
11:22:04AM USE ANOTHER MILLION TRAILHEADS.
11:22:06AM I'M NOT CONCERNED AS MUCH ABOUT THAT.
11:22:08AM I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IS THE PROBABILITY THAT GROWTH AND
11:22:10AM DEVELOPMENT WILL CONTINUE TO THE POINT WHERE PROBABILITY
11:22:12AM STARTS TO GO AS HIGH AS SEVERITY.
11:22:15AM MY RECOMMENDATION IS LET US DISCUSS THE IMPASSE AND SEE IF
11:22:18AM WE CAN COME TO A RESOLUTION ABOUT WHAT THIS TRAILHEAD,
11:22:22AM PASS-THROUGH SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
11:22:23AM IF WE CAN'T, THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND WE COME BACK ANOTHER
11:22:26AM TIME AND SAY WE COULD NOT RESOLVE.
11:22:27AM I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW TALKING TO MY TEAM, AND I HAVE A
11:22:30AM MILLION OTHER THINGS, I'M TRYING TO GET A BASE OUT FROM
11:22:34AM UNDERWATER, BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF THE
11:22:36AM RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY.
11:22:37AM MacDILL HAS BEEN TO TWO BARRACKS, AND WE GOT THROUGH IT.
11:22:44AM THEY ARE IMPORTANT AND SO ARE THE RELATIONSHIPS.
11:22:46AM OVER 19,000 PEOPLE AND ABOUT $1.1 BILLION A YEAR OF SUPPORT
11:22:49AM TO THIS COMMUNITY.

11:22:52AM MacDILL IS THE COMMUNITY.
11:22:54AM WHEN MacDILL SAYS WE HAVE A CONCERN WITH SAFETY AND WE
11:22:57AM HAVE FOLKS THAT SAY WE WANT TO BRING IN A TRAILHEAD, LET US
11:23:02AM TRY AND RESOLVE THAT BETWEEN US RATHER THAN BRING IT TO A
11:23:05AM VOTE OF FOLKS WHO MAY NOT BE AS INTERESTED AS WE ARE.
11:23:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT BOTH SIDES HAVE
11:23:16AM SAID.
11:23:17AM POSSIBILITY, PROBABILITY, OR PROBABILITY, THERE IS A
11:23:20AM POSSIBILITY, NO MATTER WHAT IT IS.
11:23:21AM I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE AND LOOKING AT AND I
11:23:27AM REMEMBER FROM THE LAST TIME WE MET, I THINK EVEN THE
11:23:30AM NEIGHBORHOOD SAID WHY BUILD THE PARK.
11:23:32AM NO ONE WILL BE THERE, SOMETHING TO THAT CONVERSATION.
11:23:37AM I THINK THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS, BOTH SIDES, MACDILL AIR FORCE
11:23:41AM BASE AND THE PETITIONER OUGHT TO MEET TOGETHER AND COME BACK
11:23:45AM IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
11:23:47AM I THINK POSSIBLY THIS COULD BE WORKED OUT.
11:23:49AM I'M JUST THINKING FROM WHAT I HEARD ON BOTH SIDES.
11:23:54AM I THINK THIS COULD BE RESOLVED IF THERE WAS NO PARK AND IT
11:23:59AM WAS JUST A POINT TO GO FROM POINT A TO POINT B ON THE TRAIL
11:24:02AM LIKE ORIGINALLY DESIGNED MANY YEARS BACK WHEN THERE WAS NO
11:24:05AM TRAIL REALLY.
11:24:06AM IT WAS JUST DESIGNED THAT WAY AND COMING TOGETHER NOW.
11:24:09AM THAT'S JUST MY FEELING THAT I SEE BOTH SIDES ENERGIZED TO
11:24:12AM RESOLVE THE PROBLEM.

11:24:14AM LIKE WANTING TO GET MARRIED.
11:24:15AM MAYBE YOU GOT TO GET DIVORCED ALSO.
11:24:19AM WHAT I'M SAYING, I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT HUMOROUS.
11:24:22AM TRYING TO MAKE THIS THING OPERATIONAL SO BOTH SIDES ARE
11:24:24AM HAPPY AND MacDILL IS HAPPY AND SO IS THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:24:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
11:24:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
11:24:30AM IF THE VISITOR CENTER WASN'T THERE AND THE MILITARY DIDN'T
11:24:36AM HAVE A WAIVER FOR IT.
11:24:37AM I REALLY, YOU KNOW, WOULDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE.
11:24:40AM BUT BECAUSE IT IS THERE, IT'S HARD FOR YOU TO ARGUE ABOUT
11:24:44AM SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE CLEAR ZONE, THAT IS A TRAILHEAD AND
11:24:49AM A PARKING LOT.
11:24:50AM HARD TO ARGUE THAT POINT AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
11:24:53AM I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO RUIN OUR RELATIONSHIP
11:24:55AM WITH MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE BECAUSE WE MAKE A DECISION LIKE
11:24:58AM THIS.
11:24:58AM I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE STAFF HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH
11:25:04AM THESE FOLKS FOR THEM TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT IS
11:25:07AM REASONABLE ALREADY, THAT HAS BEEN DONE.
11:25:11AM THE MILITARY BASE, MacDILL IS JUST NOT WILLING TO BUDGE.
11:25:15AM THAT'S WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE FOR ME.
11:25:17AM I THINK THEY HAVE GONE BACK TIME AND TIME AGAIN EVEN WITH
11:25:20AM OUR STAFF TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS REASONABLE.
11:25:23AM AND MacDILL IS NOT INTERESTED IN IT AT ALL.

11:25:28AM THE THING THAT GETS THEM IN THE POSITION THAT THEY ARE IN
11:25:35AM WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY IS THAT THEY RECEIVED A WAIVER
11:25:40AM WITHIN THEIR OWN ORGANIZATION TO JUSTIFY THE WELCOME CENTER
11:25:45AM OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED.
11:25:49AM BUT IT'S STILL A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CONGREGATE, EVEN IF THEY
11:25:52AM ARE ONLY THERE FOR TEN MINUTES.
11:25:54AM IT DOESN'T MATTER.
11:25:55AM IT'S STILL PEOPLE THERE.
11:25:56AM THAT'S WHERE THEY COME THROUGH IN LARGE NUMBERS TO ENTER THE
11:26:01AM BASE.
11:26:02AM IT'S HARD TO JUSTIFY, YOU KNOW, TAKING AWAY A PARKING LOT
11:26:10AM AND NOT BUILDING A TRAILHEAD WHEN YOU HAVE FOLKS THERE ALL
11:26:13AM THE TIME.
11:26:14AM YET YOU GET TO CONTROL THAT SITUATION, OF COURSE, BECAUSE
11:26:17AM YOU ARE THE MILITARY.
11:26:18AM BUT IF YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY, THEN IF
11:26:24AM THERE WERE A SITUATION THAT IS ADJACENT TO YOU ALL, YOU
11:26:28AM WOULD INFORM THE COMMUNITY.
11:26:31AM SO THAT'S HOW I SEE IT.
11:26:35AM I THINK THE WORK HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY
11:26:38AM WORKING WITH THESE FOLKS TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT'S
11:26:40AM REASONABLE.
11:26:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:26:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:26:44AM I HAVE A QUESTION TO THE PETITIONER, TO MR. GARDNER.

11:26:47AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND I KNOW THAT WE HAD CONTINUED THIS TO
11:26:52AM GIVE PEOPLE MORE TIME TO MEET, I THINK IF I COULD FORM A
11:26:56AM NARRATIVE AND NOT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE HERE ON THIS
11:26:59AM NARRATIVE, I'M GOING TO SAY, IT SEEMS TO BE THAT YOUR
11:27:04AM PROJECT IS VERY PASSIVE IN NATURE BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WE
11:27:08AM WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE CONCERNS.
11:27:11AM I THINK A POSSIBLE MEANS TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL, BECAUSE,
11:27:13AM AGAIN, WITH THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE, I'M SUPPORTIVE.
11:27:16AM WITH THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE.
11:27:17AM BUT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAD TALKED ABOUT ADDITIONAL MEETINGS
11:27:20AM TO AT LEAST GIVE THAT SOME DEFERENCE.
11:27:23AM I PUT THAT OUT THERE, HOW WOULD YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT THAT?
11:27:26AM >> TRUETT GARDNER, FOR THE RECORD.
11:27:28AM FIRST AND FOREMOST IT PAINS ME THAT WE'RE ON OPPOSITE SIDES
11:27:32AM OF THE BASE.
11:27:33AM I ALWAYS AND MY CLIENT HAVE ALWAYS VIEWED THIS AS REALLY IT
11:27:36AM IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT TO ME IT IS A TRIPARTY
11:27:39AM PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA, MY CLIENT AND THE
11:27:42AM BASE.
11:27:42AM THAT SAID, IT WAS CONFOUNDING TO HAVE THIS MEETING LAST WEEK
11:27:48AM WHERE THIS PARK HAS BEEN DESIGNED OR TRAILHEAD HAS BEEN
11:27:51AM DESIGNED IN A VERY PASSIVE MANNER AND TO THROW OUT
11:27:55AM ADDITIONAL IDEAS TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE PASSIVE ONLY TO
11:27:57AM BASICALLY BE TOLD YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
11:28:00AM I'M SAYING ALL THIS BECAUSE I THINK LIKE THE BASE CAN GIVE

11:28:05AM THE WAIVER ON THE VISITOR CENTER, IT'S COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY
11:28:09AM TO GRANT THIS APPROVAL BASED ON THE BASE'S RECOMMENDATION.
11:28:13AM I THINK WHAT IS CONFOUNDING AND PERHAPS IF IT'S YOUR
11:28:16AM PLEASURE, YOU CAN PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE GOING INTO THIS NEXT
11:28:19AM MEETING WHICH I THINK WOULD BE FINE, BUT I WANT TO GO ALL
11:28:22AM THE WAY BACK TO THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION.
11:28:24AM THIS IS 2005 WHEN THE CITY RECEIVED THE PROPERTY AND
11:28:28AM HIGHLIGHTED IN PINK, ONCE THE CITY HAS POSSESSION OF THE
11:28:33AM LAND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE OTHER GRANTS AND CITY
11:28:35AM FUNDS TO DEVELOP THE LAND FOR ENVIRONMENTAL AND LOW DENSITY
11:28:38AM RECREATIONAL PURPOSES.
11:28:39AM FURTHER, THE ACQUISITION OF THIS LAND WILL PRESERVE THE
11:28:43AM OPERATIONAL CAPABILITIES OF THE MacDILL LINE MISSION,
11:28:46AM PROVIDE A GREENSPACE BUFFER BETWEEN THE BASE AND THE
11:28:48AM COMMUNITY, AND PROVIDE MORE PARKS AND RECREATION PROPERTY TO
11:28:52AM THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
11:28:53AM THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PROPERTY.
11:28:55AM THEN WE GET INTO -- I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, YOU HAD
11:29:02AM A GREAT POINT ON TRAILHEAD, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE
11:29:05AM TRYING TO DO.
11:29:06AM NOT TRYING TO DO A PARK.
11:29:07AM A TRAILHEAD AND THIS IS UNDER THE CITY OF TAMPA PARKS AND
11:29:09AM RECREATION MASTER PLAN, IS DEFINED AS THE STARTING OR
11:29:13AM DESTINATION POINTS FOR GREENWAY AND TRAIL USERS TYPICALLY
11:29:16AM PROVIDING PARKING AND SUPPORT FACILITY.

11:29:19AM AS MR. RODRIGUEZ SAID, THEY DID NOT WANT VERTICAL
11:29:23AM DEVELOPMENT.
11:29:23AM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE POLICY, NO VERTICAL
11:29:27AM DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE PERMITTED IN THE AREA, MAPPED ON THE
11:29:30AM ADOPTED 2040 LAND USE MAP AS THE CLEAR ZONE.
11:29:32AM WHEN WE THINK OF VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT AND REPRESENTING
11:29:37AM DEVELOPERS, WE THINK OF F.A.R. AND BUILDINGS.
11:29:39AM I THINK FURTHER THAN THAT, IT COULD BE RESTROOMS.
11:29:42AM IT COULD BE PAVILIONS.
11:29:44AM IT COULD BE THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
11:29:45AM THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO NOT HAVE ANY OF THOSE.
11:29:48AM WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE A TRAILHEAD, AND WE WENT TO THE
11:29:52AM BASE, TO THAT MEETING ON MONDAY IN THE SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE
11:29:56AM TO EVEN MAKE THIS MORE PASSIVE.
11:29:58AM I THINK THE FRUSTRATION THAT WE WERE HAVING AND MAYBE SOME
11:30:01AM OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE HAVING, IS WE CAN'T SEEM TO GET
11:30:06AM ANYWHERE.
11:30:06AM WITH THAT AGAIN I'LL DEFER TO MY CLIENT ON THE WILLINGNESS
11:30:12AM TO MEET.
11:30:13AM I JUST WANTED TO PUT OUT THERE, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO COME
11:30:15AM FROM AN UNREASONABLE POSITION.
11:30:18AM WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO YES, BUT WE KEEP BEING MET WITH MORE
11:30:21AM AND MORE OBSTACLES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH.
11:30:24AM >> BRIAN FUNK, DEVELOPER.
11:30:26AM I WANT TO ADD ONE THING TO THAT FOR CONTEXT.

11:30:29AM IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
11:30:30AM THE DEFENSIVE STRUCTURE GRANT APPLICATION FORM INCORPORATED
11:30:34AM BY REFERENCE IN THE RESOLUTION 2005-699 BECAUSE IT IS THE
11:30:38AM WAY THE CITY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IT MAKES THREE MATERIAL
11:30:41AM STATEMENTS, WHICH SUPPORT THE PROPOSED PLAN BEFORE THE CITY
11:30:44AM TODAY.
11:30:45AM SECTION 4-1, QUESTION NUMBER FIVE, SUMMARY OF PROJECT
11:30:48AM STATES, QUOTE, THE IDENTIFIED PARCELS ARE WITHIN THE CLEAR
11:30:50AM ZONE OF MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
11:30:52AM THIS WAS ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD AND CREATED THE EXCEPTION.
11:30:54AM THEY WANT TO USE THE WORD EXCEPTING.
11:30:56AM THIS EXCEPTION ALREADY BEEN CREATED.
11:30:58AM I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE.
11:31:00AM I FEEL LIKE THAT IS SORT OF THE ONE-ARM FISHERMAN THAT
11:31:03AM CAUGHT THE FISH THIS BIG, WHILE WE DON'T DENY THE CLEAR ZONE
11:31:06AM AS APPLICATION, THAT IS AN INCOMPLETE PART OF THE STORY.
11:31:10AM SORRY WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET TOGETHER SOONER.
11:31:14AM THAT CARVES OUT THE EXEMPTION.
11:31:18AM DELIBERATED ON, LOWEST INTENSITY USE WE COULD COME UP WITH.
11:31:21AM IN THE EVENT THAT THE PARTIES, INTENT OF THE PARTIES WASN'T
11:31:25AM ALREADY SPECIFICALLY STATED, CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS,
11:31:28AM SAME BOOK REFERENCED BY MR. RODRIGUEZ STATES TITLE 32,
11:31:31AM SECTION 256.3, C-3, AIR INSTALLATION COMPATIBLE USE ZONES,
11:31:37AM FOLLOWING DESCRIPTIONS OF ACCIDENT POTENTIAL ZONES ARE
11:31:39AM GUIDELINES ONLY.

11:31:40AM STRICT APPLICATION WOULD RESULT IN INCREASING THE SAFETY OF
11:31:42AM THE GENERAL PUBLIC BUT WOULD NOT PROVIDE COMPLETE PROTECTION
11:31:45AM AGAINST THE EFFECTS OF AIRCRAFT ACCIDENTS.
11:31:47AM SUCH A DEGREE OF PROTECTION IS PROBABLY IMPOSSIBLE TO
11:31:49AM ACHIEVE.
11:31:50AM SAFETY IS A RELATIVE TERM, END QUOTE.
11:31:53AM SOMETHING FOR YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT.
11:31:55AM MULTIPLE LAYERS OF LATITUDE TO EFFECTUATE THIS.
11:31:58AM THIS IS LOW INTENSITY.
11:31:59AM WE ALREADY MET WITH THEM.
11:32:00AM WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS TWO YEARS CANDIDLY.
11:32:02AM IT WAS A VERY UNREASONABLE APPROACH.
11:32:06AM WE FEEL THIS IS REASONABLE.
11:32:07AM NOT DOING ANYTHING TO DENY THE MILITARY.
11:32:09AM BOTH GRANDFATHERS FULL COLONELS.
11:32:17AM WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO ANYTHING TO DISRESPECT --
11:32:27AM EXCUSE ME, NICE CRESCENDO FROM WHAT IS THE HOTEL COMPONENT
11:32:31AM WHICH AGAIN IS FOR THE BASE.
11:32:32AM WE HAVE NOTHING BUT YOU GUYS IN MIND.
11:32:34AM THAT'S WHO OUR CUSTOMER IS.
11:32:36AM SECOND HOTEL THAT YOU MENTIONED, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO
11:32:40AM THIS WITHOUT THE PARK THE REASON, IT CLEANS UP THE AREA --
11:32:47AM REASON WHY WE DO IT, IT CLEANS UP THE AREA AND HELPS US
11:32:50AM PERHAPS ADD SURFACE PARKING.
11:32:51AM NOT TO SAY WE CAN'T GO BACK, PROPOSE A BUILDING WITH PARKING

11:32:54AM UNDERNEATH, REQUEST A WAIVER AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE NOT GOING
11:32:58AM TO DO THIS PARK AND LOOK LIKE THAT FOREVER.
11:33:00AM THIS IS A REALLY GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITY, FOR THE BASE, FOR
11:33:06AM EVERYBODY.
11:33:07AM SCALED IT DOWN A LOT.
11:33:08AM TELL SOMEBODY THEY CAN'T BE TIRED OVER THERE.
11:33:18AM WE'RE SPLITTING HAIRS HERE.
11:33:20AM SOMEBODY IS GOING TO USE THIS PROPERTY ANYWAY.
11:33:22AM SITTING THERE IN ABEYANCE.
11:33:24AM HERE I AM TRYING TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE CITY.
11:33:26AM I'M NOT SURE WHY THERE IS A PROBLEM.
11:33:28AM DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE A PROBLEM UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF THE
11:33:33AM RESOLUTION.
11:33:33AM OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.
11:33:42AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TWO THINGS.
11:33:44AM TWO ITEMS, 67 AND 68, APPEARS TO BE TRAVELING TOGETHER.
11:33:47AM THESE ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
11:33:48AM MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT COUNCIL DOES DO TAKE PUBLIC
11:33:53AM COMMENTS ON BOTH THE ITEMS.
11:33:54AM YOU CAN COMBINE THEM AND DO THAT.
11:33:56AM ANOTHER REMINDER, COUNCIL, YOU HAVE AN 11:45 TIME CERTAIN.
11:34:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:34:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO HOPEFULLY QUICK QUESTIONS.
11:34:06AM BRIAN, THE SUGGESTION FROM MacDILL IS THAT YOU ALL MEET
11:34:10AM AND COME BACK.

11:34:12AM >> WE JUST DID.
11:34:13AM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU HAVE TIME DEADLINES THAT WOULD
11:34:17AM PROHIBIT THAT OR IS IT OKAY TO COME BACK?
11:34:21AM >> WE JUST MET WITH THEM THREE DAYS AGO.
11:34:24AM I'M NOT SURE WHAT WILL CHANGE TO BE HONEST.
11:34:27AM CANDIDLY, WHY IT'S COMING UP NOW THE RESOLUTION, KIND OF
11:34:33AM QUESTION THE URGENCY OF THIS.
11:34:34AM I SAW AN E-MAIL FROM MR. RODRIGUEZ AUGUST 24.
11:34:37AM FIRST READING WAS SEPTEMBER 5.
11:34:39AM WE DIDN'T EVEN GET AN OBJECTION.
11:34:40AM SECOND READING WAS SEPTEMBER 19.
11:34:42AM DIDN'T GET THE OBJECTION TILL THE EVENING OF SEPTEMBER 18.
11:34:46AM I COULD HAVE COME TO THE READING TWO WEEKS AGO PREPARED LIKE
11:34:49AM THIS BUT WASN'T.
11:34:50AM WE HAD TO GO DIGGING TO CONFIRM WHAT WE ALREADY KNEW, WHICH
11:34:54AM IT HAS BEEN PROVIDED -- YOU'RE HONORING THE ORIGINAL AGREED
11:35:00AM TO AGREEMENT.
11:35:00AM MAYOR IORIO SIGNED IT.
11:35:03AM I'M PROVIDING THE FUNDING.
11:35:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ASK MacDILL QUESTION.
11:35:06AM DO YOU OR TRUETT HAVE A LAYOUT OR MAP OF THE PROPERTY?
11:35:13AM >> YES.
11:35:13AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHILE HE'S DOING THAT, TO MacDILL, THEY
11:35:17AM HAVE ONE HOTEL ALREADY APPROVED.
11:35:19AM THERE IS A SECOND HOTEL HE'S PROPOSING.

11:35:21AM AS YOU SAID, IT WILL GO THROUGH A DIFFERENT PROCESS.
11:35:24AM THAT WILL BE SUBJECT TO FAA APPROVAL.
11:35:28AM >> SPEAK TO THAT SO NOBODY IS FREAKED OUT.
11:35:31AM LET'S ASSUME THE BIGGEST USE, THAT WAY WE KNOW WHAT PARKING
11:35:34AM NEEDS ARE.
11:35:35AM WE CAN ALWAYS DO LESS, BUT IF NEED MORE AND COULD HAVE GONE
11:35:39AM BIGGER --
11:35:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: POINT IS THAT IS A SEPARATE PROCESS.
11:35:50AM MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE PARK.
11:35:53AM MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED SELLING OR TRANSFERRING LET'S SAY
11:36:04AM WHAT WE WERE CALLING A PARK OR TRAILHEAD, LET'S SAY 100%
11:36:08AM CONTROL TO MacDILL.
11:36:10AM WHERE IS THE ONE THAT HAS THE TRIANGLE GOING ACROSS IT THAT
11:36:13AM SHOWS THE CLEAR ZONE?
11:36:17AM LET'S SAY THERE'S NO AMENITIES WHATSOEVER --
11:36:21AM >> I HAVE MR. RODRIGUEZ AS WELL AS THE AIRSPACE ANALYSIS.
11:36:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE QUESTION TO MacDILL.
11:36:28AM LET'S SAY YOU ALL HAVE HUNDRED PERCENT CONTROL OVER THAT
11:36:32AM PROPERTY, WHAT WE WERE CALLING A PARK OR TRAILHEAD AND YOU
11:36:34AM CAN DECIDE EXACTLY WHAT WOULD GO IN THERE.
11:36:37AM REALLY, THE QUESTION IS, THIS SMALL CORNER OF PARKING SPACES
11:36:43AM AND I THINK THE DEVELOPER, THEY ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING
11:36:48AM NICE AS AN AMENITY FOR THE CITY, BUT WHAT THEY ARE REALLY
11:36:52AM INTERESTED LONG TERM IS HAVING PARKING FOR EXISTING OR
11:36:55AM FUTURE HOTEL.

11:36:56AM THEIR ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE TO GO OUTSIDE THAT TRIANGLE AND
11:36:59AM BUILD A MULTISTORY PARKING STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE
11:37:02AM IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO IT.
11:37:04AM IF WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IS SAFE, THERE IS A DEFINED CLEAR
11:37:09AM ZONE BUT ACCIDENTS DON'T ALWAYS STAY WITHIN THOSE
11:37:13AM DEFINITIONS.
11:37:14AM WOULD IT BE PREFERABLE TO MacDILL TO HAVE SOME SURFACE
11:37:18AM -- A FEW SURFACE SPACES THERE OR TO HAVE JUST OUTSIDE THE
11:37:22AM CLEAR ZONE A MULTISTORY PARKING STRUCTURE AND THEN IS THERE
11:37:27AM ANY WAY THAT MacDILL WOULD, IF GIVEN TOTAL CONTROL OVER
11:37:31AM WHAT GOES ON THE GREENSPACE, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT
11:37:34AM MacDILL WOULD EVER BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION
11:37:37AM THAT WOULD ALLOW STATIONARY CARS WITHOUT PEOPLE IN THEM?
11:37:50AM >> CHRIS PARKER AGAIN.
11:37:51AM TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON THE CLEAR ZONE, APZ 1, OUR
11:37:56AM POSITION IS ESSENTIALLY, AND IT HAS BEEN THE COMPROMISE, IS
11:38:01AM THE TRAILHEAD.
11:38:02AM WE PREFER THAT.
11:38:04AM IF YOU READ THAT STUDY, ESSENTIALLY IT SAYS THOSE SHOULD BE
11:38:07AM OPEN SPACES IN THE CLEAR ZONE OR AGRICULTURAL.
11:38:12AM GOING BACK TO 2005 IS WE THOUGHT THE INTENDED USE.
11:38:18AM I DON'T THINK WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PURCHASE.
11:38:20AM IT'S NOT AN EASY PROCESS BECAUSE OF FUNDING AND
11:38:23AM APPROPRIATIONS.
11:38:24AM BUT OUR USE WOULD BE EITHER TO HAVE IT AS IS OR IF IT IS A

11:38:28AM CONNECTION TO THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT TRAILHEAD, WE WOULD
11:38:32AM PREFER THAT.
11:38:32AM AS TO YOUR QUESTION, THE CLEAR ZONE IS THE AREA WHERE OUR
11:38:38AM RECOMMENDATION IS STRONGEST.
11:38:40AM IT'S WE WANT TO KEEP THAT CLEAR.
11:38:42AM IT'S IN THE NAME FOR A REASON.
11:38:44AM OUTSIDE OF THAT, I THINK OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, HEY,
11:38:48AM THERE ARE CONCERNS, AND WE TELL YOU THAT RISK.
11:38:50AM BUT WE WOULD BE MORE OKAY WITH THAT.
11:38:53AM THIS CLEAR ZONE, ESPECIALLY THAT PARKING AND THEN OBVIOUSLY
11:38:57AM A TRAIL THAT'S NOT KIND OF THE AGREED TO FROM THE LAST 20
11:39:03AM YEARS USE OF THE CLEAR ZONE, IS WHAT WE'RE TAKING AN ISSUE
11:39:07AM WITH.
11:39:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR THE MILITARY, WERE YOU GUYS AWARE,
11:39:14AM BEFORE YOU STARTED THIS OBJECTION, ABOUT WHEN THE LAND WAS
11:39:17AM ORIGINALLY TRANSFERRED THAT THESE QUESTIONS WERE BASICALLY
11:39:20AM ASKED AND ANSWERED AT THAT POINT, THAT THE USE -- THE
11:39:24AM VERBIAGE OF PARK AND THE VERBIAGE THAT WAS PRESENTED EARLIER
11:39:27AM TODAY, WERE YOU GUYS AWARE OF ALL THAT?
11:39:30AM >> BACK IN THE 2005 TIME FRAME WHEN WE WORKED WITH THE CITY
11:39:33AM TO GET THE STATE FUNDS TO PURCHASE THE LAND, WE HAD AN
11:39:39AM ACTIVE DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA ON THE GREENWAYS
11:39:42AM AND TRAILS ALIGNMENT ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE
11:39:45AM BASE, AND WE SAW THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO
11:39:50AM CONTINUE THE GREENWAYS AND TRAILS ACROSS DALE MABRY AND MAKE

11:39:53AM THAT CONNECTION BETWEEN PINEWOOD AND MARCUM SO THEY COULD
11:39:58AM CONTINUE ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE BASE.
11:40:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERBIAGE AGREED UPON INCLUDED PARKING,
11:40:04AM PARKS.
11:40:04AM >> I BELIEVE THE PARKS AND REC REFERENCE WAS DUE TO THE FACT
11:40:08AM THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION
11:40:10AM DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY RAN THE GREENWAYS AND TRAILS
11:40:13AM PROGRAM.
11:40:13AM AS FAR AS THE OTHER GRANTS THAT WERE REFERRED TO IN THE
11:40:18AM PREVIOUS STUFF ON THE ELMO.
11:40:22AM SO THERE WAS SOMETHING CALLED THE C.M.A.Q., CONGESTION
11:40:27AM MITIGATION AIR QUALITY GRANT PROGRAM, AND THAT'S HOW THEY
11:40:31AM WERE FUNDING A LOT OF THE GREENWAYS AND TRAILS.
11:40:33AM THE C.M.A.Q. PROGRAM KIND OF DRIED UP.
11:40:35AM THERE'S NO MORE FUNDING FOR THAT.
11:40:36AM THAT'S WHY WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY SIGNIFICANT ACTIVITY AROUND
11:40:39AM MACDILL WITH GREENWAYS AND TRAILS.
11:40:42AM HOPING THAT THE ONE CENT TRANSPORTATION TAX WAS GOING TO
11:40:45AM HELP US OUT AND REINVIGORATE THE TRAIL PROGRAM.
11:40:51AM WANT TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION.
11:40:55AM CERTAINLY, WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY BECAUSE WE HAVE A
11:40:57AM 25-YEAR LEASE ALONG OUR NORTHERN BOUNDARY.
11:41:00AM WE HAVE TALKED TO PARKS AND REC ABOUT DOING SOMETHING AT THE
11:41:04AM NORTHWESTERN CORNER OF THE BASE.
11:41:06AM TRYING TO GET THAT CONNECTION FROM MacDILL OVER TO

11:41:08AM PICNIC ISLAND.
11:41:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE COMPETENT AND
11:41:13AM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IS THIS QUESTION WAS ASKED AND ANSWERED
11:41:15AM IN 2005.
11:41:17AM THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS THE USE OF THE PROPERTY.
11:41:21AM THE USE OF THE PROPERTY QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED AND
11:41:23AM ANSWERED.
11:41:23AM NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BENEFIT AGREEMENT, NOT
11:41:26AM NECESSARILY THE USE.
11:41:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD, JUST A
11:41:31AM REMINDER, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS NOT TIED
11:41:34AM TO A REZONING.
11:41:34AM IT IS NOT QUASI-JUDICIAL.
11:41:36AM IT IS A LEGISLATIVE MATTER.
11:41:45AM >> CAN I GET 30 SECONDS, PLEASE?
11:41:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE SUCH LITTLE TIME.
11:41:50AM >> I HAVE A MUST SAY AND CAN SAY.
11:41:52AM MUST SAY, THANKS TO YOUR FAMILY FOR SERVICE.
11:41:56AM I NEVER MET HIM BEFORE.
11:41:58AM BEEN ON THE GROUND 90 DAYS AS MISSION SUPPORT GROUP
11:42:01AM COMMANDER AND I AM WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND COME TO A
11:42:05AM RESOLUTION.
11:42:05AM I'M ASKING FOR TIME TO SIT DOWN.
11:42:07AM THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.
11:42:09AM I HAVE NEVER MET WITH THEM UNTIL NOW.

11:42:11AM THREE DAYS AGO I WAS IN MISSION ESSENTIAL TRYING TO GET
11:42:15AM ELECTRICITY AND WASTEWATER TO WORK AT THE BASE SO WE COULD
11:42:18AM BRING OUR FOLKS BACK ON.
11:42:19AM THAT WAS THE PRIORITY.
11:42:20AM THIS IS NOW TAKING MY PRIORITY.
11:42:22AM I'M ASKING FOR TWO WEEKS TO GET IT IN MY CALENDAR OR I CAN
11:42:28AM SIT DOWN WITH THEM, INVITE THEM ON TO THE BASE, GET THEM
11:42:30AM THROUGH THE VISITOR CENTER IN LESS THAN TEN MINUTES, BRING
11:42:33AM THEM ON THE BASE AND THEN SIT DOWN WITH OUR TEAM TO SEE IF
11:42:37AM WE CAN COME TO A RESOLUTION WITHOUT ANY OTHER FOLKS BEING
11:42:40AM INVOLVED SAYING NO, NO, YOU HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY.
11:42:43AM BECAUSE WE BOTH GO AWAY UPSET.
11:42:45AM I THINK WE CAN COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS TO SAY WE'VE COME TO A
11:42:49AM RESOLUTION.
11:42:49AM I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT.
11:42:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:42:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE] PUBLIC COMMENT SO THAT WE CAN
11:43:00AM HAVE THE TWO PARTIES -- I THINK THEY ARE COMING VERY CLOSE
11:43:03AM TO A MARRIAGE HERE.
11:43:05AM I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE THE BEST INTEREST OF BOTH SIDES TO
11:43:08AM HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
11:43:09AM WE'VE HAD ENOUGH DETAILS TODAY TO FILL A RECORD BOOK.
11:43:13AM BUT I THINK BOTH PARTIES I CAN SEE BY THE SMILE ON THE FACE,
11:43:17AM CHANGE ATTITUDE.
11:43:19AM LOOK AT BODY LANGUAGE AND THEY ARE READY.

11:43:21AM >> ONE MORE THING IN THE RECORD THAT WAS MISSING AND I THINK
11:43:24AM IT IS IMPORTANT CONTEXTUALLY IS THE AIRSPACE ANALYSIS.
11:43:27AM DONE BY THE FAA.
11:43:28AM THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL OVERLAY.
11:43:31AM WHILE THE CLEAR ZONE OPERATES IN A BOX, TWO DIMENSIONS, WHAT
11:43:34AM THIS TAKES INTO ACCOUNT I GUESS IS AS A PLANE DESCENDS, THE
11:43:45AM LIKELIHOOD IT WOULD CRASH IN THE AREA.
11:43:47AM THESE LINES ARE TEN FOOT INCREMENTS.
11:43:52AM IT'S SAYING AT THIS CORNER RIGHT HERE, GO TO 79 FEET.
11:43:56AM WHAT WE'RE SAYING TODAY IT IS A BRIDGE TOO FAR TO PUT SOME
11:44:00AM BENCHES AND CARS HERE.
11:44:02AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
11:44:02AM THAT IS SUCH A QUANTUM LEAP.
11:44:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ALL CAN WORK IT OUT SOMEHOW.
11:44:08AM THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY.
11:44:12AM >> YES, SIR.
11:44:12AM THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.
11:44:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 17th LOOKS LIKE IT IS OPEN.
11:44:17AM AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, PROBABLY MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO
11:44:22AM OCTOBER 17.
11:44:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND BUT WE HAVE
11:44:26AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:44:26AM MS. POYNOR, COME ON UP.
11:44:29AM THIS IS ON THE CONTINUANCE.
11:44:33AM >> GOOD MORNING.

11:44:33AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:44:34AM I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE
11:44:38AM BASE HAD BEEN NOTIFIED AT LEAST 30 DAYS IN ADVANCE AS WITH
11:44:42AM EVERY OTHER LAND USE CHANGE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, WE
11:44:46AM WOULDN'T BE PLAYING LAND DEVELOPMENT AT CITY COUNCIL.
11:44:51AM THIS IS A PROBLEM CREATED BY OUR CURRENT CODE, THAT THE CITY
11:44:56AM COUNCIL OR THE CITY ATTORNEYS COULD MAKE THIS DEAL WITH NO
11:44:59AM INPUT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS, NO INPUT FROM ONE OF OUR
11:45:04AM LARGEST ECONOMIC ENGINES IN THE CITY.
11:45:07AM I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR FIVE YEARS FOR SOUTH OF GANDY.
11:45:13AM I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY SHOW UP IN UNIFORM BEFORE.
11:45:16AM MR. RODRIGUEZ HAS ONLY BEEN HERE ONCE BEFORE TO MY KNOWLEDGE
11:45:21AM TO SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ANY OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
11:45:23AM SO AT THIS POINT, I COMPLETELY SUPPORT THIS CHANGE AND I
11:45:29AM ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT TO EVERYONE UP HERE, MR. CLENDENIN IS
11:45:32AM THE ONLY PERSON WHO GETS A PAYCHECK FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:45:34AM WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT ANY OF THIS.
11:45:36AM SO YOU HAVE NO EXPERTS FROM THE CITY WHO HAVE WEIGHED IN ON
11:45:40AM THIS.
11:45:40AM JUST LIKE WHEN WE HAD TO DEAL WITH CHEMICAL FORMULATORS, YOU
11:45:45AM HAD NO EXPERTS TO ADVISE YOU PROPERLY.
11:45:46AM I DON'T CARE WHAT REAL ESTATE SAID, THEY ARE NOT EXPERTS IN
11:45:52AM FLIGHT ZONES.
11:45:53AM ONLY PERSON WHO IS MR. CLENDENIN.
11:45:55AM I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO POINT OUT TO YOU THAT THE DOD IN THEIR

11:45:59AM LITTLE OFFICE OUTSIDE THE GATE, GUESS WHAT, IF A PLANE
11:46:03AM CRASHES INTO IT, THE DOD HAS A WHOLE HELL OF A LOT MORE
11:46:06AM MONEY THAN THE COT.
11:46:08AM YOU JUST SET YOURSELVES UP.
11:46:11AM IF YOU VOTED FOR THIS TODAY, YOU WOULD BE SETTING YOURSELVES
11:46:14AM UP FOR LAWSUITS IF IT EVER DOES HAPPEN.
11:46:17AM JUST LIKE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID JUST A LITTLE BIT AGO, MY
11:46:20AM FIRST THOUGHT WAS, THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD NEVER, EVER
11:46:23AM HAPPENED, HAPPENED IN THE LAST SEVEN DAYS.
11:46:26AM WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
11:46:28AM I THINK THAT THESE FOLKS NEED TIME TO SIT DOWN AT THE TABLE.
11:46:32AM YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM TIME TO WORK ON THAT.
11:46:34AM BUT THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE.
11:46:37AM THIS IS A FLAWED PROCESS.
11:46:39AM DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS SHOULD NOT BE DONE IN THE DARK
11:46:42AM WITHOUT NOTIFYING THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ECONOMIC ENGINES
11:46:45AM THAT RESIDE NEXT TO THEM.
11:46:47AM THANK YOU.
11:46:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:46:49AM ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
11:46:50AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE -- WAIT.
11:46:52AM YES, SIR, COME ON UP.
11:47:00AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
11:47:03AM WELL INTENDED AND NICE PEOPLE THAT SIT UP THERE, HONORABLE,
11:47:07AM DECENT PEOPLE.

11:47:07AM THEY ARE DECENT FOLKS.
11:47:09AM AND ANYBODY WHO SITS IN THOSE CHAIRS, IN THOSE EIGHT CHAIRS
11:47:13AM SPECIFICALLY ARE REALLY NICE AND DECENT INDIVIDUALS.
11:47:17AM THEY ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, IRRESPECTIVE
11:47:21AM OF WHAT THEY BELIEVE OR THEIR POLITICAL PERSUASION OR
11:47:25AM ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
11:47:26AM SO IT MUST BE THE CHAIRS.
11:47:31AM IT MUST BE SOMETHING ABOUT THE CHAIRS THAT MAKES THEM
11:47:35AM COMPLETELY STUPID.
11:47:36AM IT MUST BE WHEN THEY SIT IN THE CHAIRS THEY BECOME STUPID.
11:47:39AM ANY PERSON TALK ABOUT ANYTHING OFF OF MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE
11:47:46AM IN REFERENCE TO A SAFETY HAZARD, IT'S LIKE THE MECHANIC
11:47:51AM TELLING YOU, HEY, MAN, DON'T DRIVE THE CAR.
11:47:54AM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, HEY, DON'T DO THAT.
11:47:57AM IT'S A FIRE HAZARD.
11:47:58AM A MILITARY ORGANIZATION IS TELLING YOU, HEY, THAT'S NOT A
11:48:03AM GOOD IDEA AND SOMEONE WHO HAS PROBABLY NEVER BEEN IN THAT
11:48:09AM AREA -- I LIVE DIRECTLY OUTSIDE THE BASE ON BAYSHORE
11:48:14AM BOULEVARD, OFF OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
11:48:16AM IF YOU SEE THE TRAFFIC THERE, OFF OF MacDILL OR OFF OF
11:48:24AM DALE MABRY, IT'S STUPID FOR ANYONE TO THINK THAT IF SOMEONE
11:48:31AM IS ADVISING YOU WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF, HEY, DON'T DO IT OR
11:48:36AM GO SLOW, THE CITY IS ALWAYS WITH THE CRAZINESS, IT MORE THAN
11:48:42AM LIKELY THE BACKGROUND STORY IS A DEVELOPER IS TELLING YOU,
11:48:45AM HEY, THIS IS HOW IT'S GOING TO START.

11:48:48AM NEXT THING YOU KNOW, LOOKS LIKE CONCRETE JUNGLE LIKE SOUTH
11:48:52AM TAMPA RIGHT NOW.
11:48:54AM RAIN, DIFFERENT PROBLEMS, LIKE REAL ISSUES.
11:48:56AM WHO WOULD THINK WHAT HAPPENED ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
11:49:02AM IT'S NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE STORM, IT'S BECAUSE OF
11:49:05AM DEVELOPMENT.
11:49:06AM AND THERE'S NO PROPER DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
11:49:09AM NO PROPER PLANNING SYSTEM.
11:49:12AM IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BASE WHERE WE'RE TALKING MAYBE HAVE
11:49:14AM TO EVACUATE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, IT CAN'T BE THE RATIONALE
11:49:22AM OF THE INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL GOOD-HEARTED AND
11:49:25AM GOOD-INTENDED AND HERE TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF
11:49:28AM TAMPA.
11:49:29AM IT MUST BE THE CHAIRS THAT DO SOMETHING.
11:49:36AM A LOT OF GOOD PARENTS AND A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE OUT THERE.
11:49:40AM A LOT OF GOOD CHRISTIAN PEOPLE OUT THERE, BUT IT MUST BE
11:49:42AM WHEN THEY GO TO THE STRIP CLUBS AND PROSTITUTES DO SOMETHING
11:49:45AM TO THEM AND THE DANCERS.
11:49:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:49:49AM ALL RIGHT.
11:49:50AM THERE IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE WITH A SECOND.
11:49:52AM TO OCTOBER 17.
11:49:54AM WHAT IS THE TIME?
11:49:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 10:30.
11:50:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR,

11:50:04AM 33602.
11:50:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
11:50:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M THE SECONDER OF THE MOTION.
11:50:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAKER OF THE MOTION, WITH REGARD TO TIME
11:50:14AM CERTAIN, YOU SAW WHAT WE HAD TO DO TODAY, STOP AT 10:30 TO
11:50:18AM TAKE THE ITEM UP.
11:50:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIRD TIME, I THINK IT IS A REASONABLE
11:50:21AM THING TO DO.
11:50:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
11:50:23AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:50:24AM AYE.
11:50:28AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I OPPOSE.
11:50:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY NAY?
11:50:30AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NAY.
11:50:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THE MOTION MAKER WAS COUNCIL MEMBER
11:50:33AM CLENDENIN, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:50:35AM IT WAS 6-1 WITH HENDERSON VOTING NO.
11:50:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WOULD BE 67 AND 68.
11:50:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, WE HAVE A HARD STOP RIGHT
11:50:51AM NOW.
11:50:52AM CAN WE PICK UP WHEN WE COME BACK FROM LUNCH WITH PUBLIC
11:50:55AM COMMENT?
11:50:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ANSWER IS, YOU ADOPTED YOUR AGENDA
11:51:00AM TODAY WITH A HARD STOP AT 11:45.
11:51:03AM YOU'RE AT THAT POINT.

11:51:04AM YOUR QUESTION NOW IS, DO YOU WANT TO THEN TAKE WHATEVER --
11:51:08AM ITEM 70 -- TAKE THAT UP.
11:51:10AM THEN WHAT HAPPENS, YOU WANT TO TAKE INSTEAD OF THE 1:30,
11:51:15AM 1:30 IS NOT A TIME CERTAIN.
11:51:16AM IF YOU MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT YOU'LL TAKE --
11:51:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT IMMEDIATELY
11:51:21AM WHEN WE COME BACK FROM LUNCH.
11:51:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S CONTINUED.
11:51:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:51:33AM AT THIS TIME, IF WE COULD JUST PAY ATTENTION TO THE TV
11:51:39AM SCREENS UP ABOVE.
11:51:40AM OH, YES.
11:51:49AM >> I'VE KNOWN CHARLIE OVER 50 YEARS.
11:52:00AM WE WERE RAISED IN THE SAME YBOR CITY NEIGHBORHOOD CHARLIE
11:52:03AM LIVED IN, WHAT WE CALL THE PROJECTS WHICH IS BASICALLY
11:52:06AM SUBSIDIZED HOUSING.
11:52:08AM I WAS A BLOCK AWAY FROM CHARLIE.
11:52:11AM HAD TWO BEAUTIFUL SISTERS.
11:52:12AM I HAPPENED TO GO THROUGH SCHOOL FIFTH GRADE THROUGH THE
11:52:15AM 12th GRADE WITH HIS YOUNGER CITY YVONNE.
11:52:18AM [VIDEO SHOWN WITH CAPTIONS]
11:58:10AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:58:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO YOU HAD ONE OR TWO PEOPLE THAT CARE
11:58:22AM ABOUT YOU SHOW UP.
11:58:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

11:58:25AM BUT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DEBATE ME ON THAT TAX?
11:58:28AM >> NO, SIR, I WOULD NOT.
11:58:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO NAME
11:58:32AM THE STADIUM AFTER HIM.
11:58:34AM [ LAUGHTER ]
11:58:35AM >> WE'LL JUST KEEP IT MOVING HERE.
11:58:36AM IT IS SUCH AN HONOR FOR ME AND EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS ROOM
11:58:41AM HERE, CHARLIE, WE PAID NO ONE TO SHOW UP.
11:58:45AM >> I DID.
11:58:45AM >>MAYOR CASTOR: OKAY.
11:58:47AM THERE YOU GO WITHOUT A DOUBT.
11:58:50AM WHAT AN OCCASION.
11:58:51AM TOMORROW IT WILL BE OCTOBER 4, 1974 IS WHEN A VERY YOUNG
11:58:56AM CHARLIE MIRANDA WALKED IN, WAS SWORN IN AND TOOK A SEAT ON
11:59:04AM THAT VERY DAIS.
11:59:05AM SERVED SAME SEAT, MAYBE THE SAME CHAIR -- WELL, WE'VE
11:59:09AM CHANGED CHAIRS A FEW TIMES.
11:59:11AM BUT ANYWAY, WE DO WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON THAT
11:59:17AM INCREDIBLE, INCREDIBLE ACCOMPLISHMENT.
11:59:19AM FOR THREE OF THE FIVE DECADES YOU HAVE SERVED THIS
11:59:23AM COMMUNITY, AND YOU HAVE DONE THAT WITH A LEVEL OF CIVILITY,
11:59:29AM RESPECT, DIGNITY.
11:59:34AM YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN KNOWN TO BE THE INDIVIDUAL THAT ISN'T
11:59:38AM AFRAID TO COMPROMISE.
11:59:41AM YOU LISTEN TO EVERYONE.

11:59:42AM YOU KNOW THIS CITY.
11:59:44AM YOU KNOW THE ISSUES THAT AFFECT THE COMMUNITY.
11:59:48AM AND QUITE OFTEN YOU ARE THE VOICE OF REASON.
11:59:51AM EXCEPT WHEN IT COMES TO BASEBALL.
11:59:53AM YOU REALLY ARE.
11:59:57AM IT IS TRUE WHAT THE INDIVIDUALS SAID BEFORE, AND THAT IS
12:00:00PM ALWAYS ON YOUR SIGN.
12:00:02PM WHO CARES?
12:00:03PM CHARLIE CARES.
12:00:04PM AND PEOPLE KNOW THAT AND THEY RESPECT THAT AND THEY ADMIRE
12:00:07PM YOU FOR IT.
12:00:08PM I SPEAK FOR MYSELF, BUT I THINK I SPEAK FOR A LOT OF OTHERS.
12:00:13PM I HAVE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM YOU ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF
12:00:19PM BEING KIND, OF LISTENING, AND YOUR DUTIES AS A LEADER, THOSE
12:00:26PM RESPONSIBILITIES TO WORK HARD EVERY DAY, TO LIFT OUR CITY
12:00:30PM UP, AND TO GROW IT TO THE POTENTIAL THAT WE KNOW THAT IT
12:00:34PM HAS.
12:00:34PM SO I PERSONALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
12:00:38PM I KNOW EVERYONE IS HERE TO THANK YOU AS WELL.
12:00:41PM BUT I KNOW THAT COUNCIL HAS SOME INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT
12:00:45PM BUSINESS TO DO HERE.
12:00:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO ITEM NUMBER 70, IF YOU LOOKED AT THE
12:00:51PM AGENDA, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
12:00:55PM READING.
12:00:55PM IT'S APPROVING THE NAMING OF THE BRICK PLAZA AND COURTYARD,

12:00:59PM WHICH IS RIGHT OUTSIDE --
12:01:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
12:01:01PM I WANTED TO SECOND.
12:01:02PM [ LAUGHTER ]
12:01:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BETWEEN OLD CITY HALL AND TAMPA
12:01:11PM MUNICIPAL OFFICE BUILDING OUTSIDE TO BE NAMED CHARLIE
12:01:14PM MIRANDA PLAZA IN HONOR OF COUNCILMAN CHARLIE MIRANDA AND HIS
12:01:17PM ALMOST 30 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND ITS
12:01:20PM CITIZENS AS A MEMBER OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY
12:01:22PM LEADER.
12:01:22PM WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ?
12:01:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE TO EXCUSE MYSELF.
12:01:27PM I MIGHT BE CONTRADICTING SOME LAW.
12:01:31PM [ LAUGHTER ]
12:01:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
12:01:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JEFFERSON DRAGON TERRITORY HERE.
12:01:37PM WITH GREAT PLEASURE, FILE NUMBER HL24-9126, AN ORDINANCE
12:01:43PM BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
12:01:45PM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, APPROVING THE NAME OF THE
12:01:50PM BRICK PLAZA AND COURTYARD LOCATED BETWEEN OLD CITY HALL AND
12:01:53PM THE TAMPA MUNICIPAL OFFICE BUILDING AS THE "CHARLIE MIRANDA
12:01:57PM PLAZA" IN HONOR OF COUNCILMAN CHARLIE MIRANDA, JEFFERSON
12:02:01PM DRAGON, AND HIS ALMOST 30 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF
12:02:06PM TAMPA AND ITS CITIZENS AS A MEMBER OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND
12:02:10PM AS A COMMUNITY LEADER, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE NUNC PRO

12:02:16PM TUNC AS OF OCTOBER 3, 2024.
12:02:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:02:24PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:02:25PM AYE.
12:02:26PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:02:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AYE.
12:02:27PM [ LAUGHTER ]
12:02:28PM LET ME JUST SAY THIS, WHEN SHE SAID JEFFERSON DRAGON, PEOPLE
12:02:35PM ASK ALL THE TIME, WHAT SCHOOL YOU GO TO?
12:02:37PM GO TO HIGH SCHOOL?
12:02:38PM I SAY I NEVER WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL.
12:02:40PM I WENT TO JEFFERSON.
12:02:41PM THE REASON FOR THAT, ONLY THREE HIGH SCHOOLS, HILLSBOROUGH,
12:02:45PM PLANT, JEFFERSON.
12:02:46PM WE HAD TO COMPETE IN TRACK.
12:02:47PM DIDN'T HAVE A TRACK TO RUN ON BUT WE HAD TO COMPETE.
12:02:52PM COMPETE IN BASEBALL.
12:02:52PM DIDN'T HAVE A BASEBALL DIAMOND AT JEFFERSON.
12:02:54PM BEFORE I GOT THERE, THE BASKETBALL GUYS AND GIRLS, THEY
12:02:59PM DIDN'T HAVE A BASKETBALL GYM.
12:03:02PM THEY HAD TO PRACTICE IN THE DORMITORY, A STAGE ABOUT THE
12:03:08PM SIZE OF THIS ROOM HERE.
12:03:10PM WE WERE ALWAYS UNDERRATED BUT WE WON A FEW, BUT IT'S AN
12:03:15PM HONOR TO BE HERE.
12:03:16PM HONOR TO HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET SO MANY GOOD

12:03:19PM PEOPLE ALL MY LIFE.
12:03:20PM I WAS VERY HONORED WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED IN '74 THAT I
12:03:23PM WORKED WITH CATHY BARJA, THE FIRST FEMALE EVER ELECTED, AND
12:03:28PM THEN I WORKED WITH THE TWINS.
12:03:28PM JAN PLATT AND SANDY FREEDMAN.
12:03:33PM DUNCAN SAID HE COULDN'T READ.
12:03:35PM HE WOULD GIVE IT TO SANDY.
12:03:36PM SANDY PASSED TO ME.
12:03:37PM AT THAT TIME YOU COULDN'T SAY I PASS 1 THROUGH 80.
12:03:41PM YOU HAD TO READ EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY.
12:03:44PM I READ THE WHOLE THING AND HAND IT BACK TO HIM AND HE TELLS
12:03:46PM ME, DID YOU SEE THE BEAUTIFUL GIRL IN THE SECOND ROW?
12:03:49PM I THOUGHT YOU TOLD ME YOU COULDN'T READ AND COULDN'T SEE.
12:03:52PM THOSE ARE THE THINGS I REMEMBER IN FREEDMAN AND PLATT.
12:03:54PM HONOR TO SERVE WITH ALL THE INDIVIDUALS.
12:03:57PM IT'S LIKE REALLY LIKE A DREAM.
12:04:00PM 50 YEARS IS A LONG TIME, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT REALITY, IT IS
12:04:04PM A BLINK OF AN EYE.
12:04:05PM PASSES SO QUICKLY.
12:04:07PM YOU HAVE TO ENJOY YOURSELF.
12:04:08PM MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HURT ANYBODY'S FEELINGS.
12:04:11PM GO OUT AND LIVE YOUR LIFE BECAUSE IT IS A SHORT PERIOD OF
12:04:14PM TIME.
12:04:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET ME SAY THAT PEOPLE ASK ME, HOW DID
12:04:20PM YOU GET INVOLVED IN THE CITY?

12:04:22PM WHEN YOU RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL, YOU AND PAM IORIO AND THE
12:04:26PM MAYOR WERE THE FIRST TWO PEOPLE I TALKED TO THAT INSPIRED ME
12:04:30PM TO RUN.
12:04:31PM AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
12:04:33PM CONGRATULATIONS.
12:04:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS SO BEAUTIFUL, GUIDO.
12:04:37PM [ LAUGHTER ]
12:04:37PM [ APPLAUSE ]
12:04:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOT TO ANNOUNCE THE VOTE AND THE SECOND
12:04:43PM READING.
12:04:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE SHOULD RECOGNIZE THAT FOR
12:04:52PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF GROUP SHOW UP FOR
12:04:55PM HIM, I LOOK OUT IN THE AUDIENCE AND I SEE BUSINESS LEADERS,
12:04:59PM SOME OF THE POWERHOUSE ATTORNEYS IN THE AUDIENCE.
12:05:03PM FORMER STATE SENATOR.
12:05:04PM WE HAVE AT LEAST THREE FORMER MAYORS AND A CURRENT MAYOR.
12:05:10PM DEPARTMENT HEADS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:05:11PM I MEAN, THIS IS A WHO'S WHO.
12:05:13PM CONGRESS WOMAN KATHY CASTOR SITTING BACK THERE PRETTY IN RED
12:05:19PM AS ALWAYS.
12:05:19PM THAT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE, CHARLIE.
12:05:23PM I AM VERY APPRECIATIVE OF BEING ABLE TO SERVE ON COUNCIL
12:05:25PM WITH YOU AND TO LEARN FROM YOU, TO ABSORB SOME OF YOUR
12:05:31PM WISDOM.
12:05:32PM AND TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GIVE SOME OF MY SENSE OF HUMOR TO

12:05:35PM YOU SINCE YOU SO LACK IT.
12:05:37PM IT'S A GIVE AND RECEIVE RELATIONSHIP HERE.
12:05:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE GO TO THE SAME BARBER.
12:05:48PM >>MAYOR CASTOR: I WILL SAY WE'RE NOT DONE, ALTHOUGH CHARLIE
12:05:51PM SERVED FOR 50 YEARS, I DON'T THINK THAT THE OUTDOOR
12:05:54PM FESTIVITIES ARE GOING TO GO ON FOR 50 YEARS, BUT WE ARE
12:05:57PM GOING TO GO DOWNSTAIRS FOR LUNCH WITH EVERYONE.
12:06:01PM AND WE HAVE SOME FURTHER COMMEMORATIONS DOWN THERE AND GIFTS
12:06:06PM TO PROVIDE TO CHARLIE FOR HIS YEARS OF SERVICE.
12:06:10PM DID YOU NEED TO READ SOMETHING?
12:06:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO
12:06:14PM EVERYONE HERE WHO CAME.
12:06:15PM IF YOU DON'T MIND, LIKE TO INTRODUCE MY FAMILY.
12:06:17PM WOULD YOU STAND UP?
12:06:21PM [ APPLAUSE ]
12:06:21PM IN THE BACK, YOU HAVE RYAN AND LUKE AND YOU HAVE MY SON
12:06:33PM FRANK AND YVETTE AND DINETTE AND TWO SISTERS, YVONNE AND
12:06:37PM OLGA.
12:06:38PM I THINK MOST OF THE GRANDCHILDREN HERE.
12:06:40PM MEGAN, JILLIAN, ERICA.
12:06:43PM I DON'T SEE WHO ELSE.
12:06:44PM BUT ALL HERE, I THINK.
12:06:46PM THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING SO SUPPORTIVE.
12:06:51PM I USED ALL YOUR MONEY TO RUN FOR CAMPAIGNS SO THERE'S
12:06:53PM NOTHING LEFT.

12:06:54PM [ LAUGHTER ]
12:06:56PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT, I DON'T
12:06:58PM MEAN TO INTERRUPT.
12:06:59PM MAKE SURE YOU ARE AWARE THAT THE MAYOR SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE
12:07:02PM ORDER ALSO CONFIRMING THE NAME OF THE PLAZA IN CHARLIE
12:07:07PM MIRANDA'S HONOR.
12:07:08PM THAT NEEDS TO BE RECEIVED AND FILED AS PART OF THE RENAMING
12:07:11PM PROCESS.
12:07:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND TO RECEIVE AND FILE
12:07:12PM THAT.
12:07:13PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:07:13PM AYE.
12:07:14PM PLEASE READ THE VOTE, CHARLENE, FOR THE SECOND READING AND
12:07:18PM EVERYTHING.
12:07:19PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:07:20PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION --
12:07:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THERE WAS A NO.
12:07:26PM THAT WAS JUST A JOKE.
12:07:29PM OKAY.
12:07:33PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:07:34PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 7,
12:07:37PM 2024, AT 10 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY
12:07:40PM BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
12:07:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:07:45PM WE'RE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30.
12:07:47PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:07:48PM [LUNCH RECESS]

01:33:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
01:33:15PM AT THIS TIME, MAY I HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
01:33:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
01:33:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
01:33:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
01:33:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
01:33:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
01:33:26PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:33:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:33:30PM GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
01:33:31PM MY FIRST SPEAKER.
01:33:33PM >> LOUIE SUYO.
01:33:36PM YES, SIR, PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
01:33:39PM >> MY NAME IS LOUIS.
01:33:42PM I LIVE IN HARBOR ISLANDS.
01:33:45PM PREVIOUSLY AT DAVIS ISLAND.
01:33:46PM I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE LIGHTS ON -- THOSE LIGHTS ON
01:33:51PM FRANKLIN.
01:33:51PM I DIDN'T -- I COULDN'T FIND WHERE THE LIGHTS WERE
01:33:56PM SPECIFICALLY GOING TO IT BE, BUT I AM ASSUMING IT IS -- IT
01:34:01PM IS PARALLEL TO THE EMBASSY SUITES AND ANOTHER ONE BY THE
01:34:06PM MARRIOTT.
01:34:07PM THOSE TWO.
01:34:10PM OKAY, I TRAVEL THAT AREA ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF DAY, ALL
01:34:20PM DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY AND NIGHT, AND SEEMS TO BE THERE
01:34:23PM IS NO ISSUE ON TRAFFIC FLOW.
01:34:25PM I CAME BACK DURING A LIGHTNING GAME LAST NIGHT PRIOR TO,
01:34:30PM LIKE, 6:15.
01:34:32PM THINKING IT WOULD GET ALL JAMMED UP AS I DIDN'T KNOW THERE
01:34:36PM WAS A PREGAME.
01:34:38PM AGAIN, EVERYTHING FLOWS.
01:34:40PM I SAY THAT FROM WHETHER IT IS THE MORNING, 10 TO 12:00, 2 TO
01:34:47PM 4:00, 6 TO 8:00 AT NIGHT.
01:34:49PM ONE THING I WANT TO REALLY STRESS HERE IS THAT WITH THE
01:34:54PM FLOW, WITHOUT GETTING INTO SPECIFIC NUMBERS, THAT THE -- THE
01:34:59PM COMMUNITY IN GENERAL IS VERY COURTEOUS AND COMPLIMENTARY,
01:35:10PM BOTH SIDES, THE VISITORS AND OUR OWN COMMUNITY.
01:35:13PM AND THERE IS A SENSE OF AWARENESS, I THINK, ON BOTH SIDES
01:35:17PM THAT IT IS COMPLIMENTARY.
01:35:21PM WE STOP, THEY GO.
01:35:24PM VISITORS GO.
01:35:25PM IT IS VERY RESPECTFUL BACK AND FORTH.
01:35:28PM YOU KNOW, LIGHTS WHEN I LOOKED COULD BE FROM BROREIN TO THE
01:35:38PM EMBASSY SUITES AND THE MOST YOU CAN GET IS EIGHT CARS AT A
01:35:42PM DEAD STOP AT A RED LIGHT THAT IS FORCING THE TRAFFIC TO BACK
01:35:49PM UP AND NOW TRAFFIC DURING HIGH LEVELS LIKE LAST NIGHT IS
01:35:52PM MANAGED BY CONES THAT FORCE EVERYBODY TO GO RIGHT.
01:35:55PM AND THE POLICE, WHICH DO A GREAT JOB OF JUST BASICALLY THEY
01:35:59PM ARE WAVING THE CARS THROUGH.
01:36:01PM AND WE ALL GO TO OUR DIFFERENT WAYS.
01:36:04PM AND NO INCIDENTS.
01:36:08PM SO I DON'T KNOW WHY OR WHERE THIS STANDS IN AGAIN, BUT
01:36:14PM APPRECIATE ANY COMMENTS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE ON THAT.
01:36:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
01:36:19PM NEXT SPEAKER IS CONNIE BURTON FOLLOWED BY PAULA PERRY.
01:36:24PM I KNOW WHO IS GONE -- I AM JUST GOING TO READ THE NAMES
01:36:30PM ANYWAY.
01:36:31PM CONNIE BURTON AND WE WILL GO FROM THERE.
01:36:34PM YES, MA'AM.
01:36:35PM >> YES, CONNIE BURTON.
01:36:37PM CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:36:41PM MOTHER NATURE HAS A WAY OF HUMBLING ALL OF US.
01:36:44PM AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT YOU DIDN'T THINK HAVE
01:36:49PM ANY HUMANITY, IT SPREADS THROUGH THEIR GRIEF, SEEING THE
01:36:54PM GRIEF OF OTHERS.
01:36:55PM AND WE QUITE OFTEN HEAR THIS STATEMENT WE HAVE NEVER SEEN
01:37:01PM NOTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.
01:37:02PM BUT I THINK WE CONTINUE TO SEE PAIN AND HARM COME TO PEOPLE,
01:37:07PM BUT IT IS THROUGH THIS EXPRESSION THAT IT IS DONE OUT OF OUR
01:37:13PM CONTROL THAT WHEN WE WOULD BE BROUGHT INTO HUMANITY.
01:37:17PM WHAT I CAN TELL YOU THAT LOSS OF LIFE, THE LOSS OF PROPERTY,
01:37:23PM SEEING YOUR COMMUNITY BEING IDENTIFIED AS A BLIGHTED
01:37:26PM COMMUNITY, WATCH IT GENTRIFIED.
01:37:28PM SEEING YOUNG PEOPLE LOSING HOPE HAS BEEN ONE OF THOSE KIND
01:37:33PM OF SOBERING EFFECTS THAT IT HAVE ON US THAT BELIEVE THAT
01:37:38PM THIS COUNCIL AND THIS CITY CAN DO BETTER.
01:37:40PM SO WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT WHEN THIS -- WHEN THIS COMMITTEE
01:37:45PM RECONCILIATION GROUP COMES, IRREGARDLESS OF THE -- IF IT IS
01:37:51PM 5, 6, 8, 3, 4, 4, 1, 2, 3, WE PLAN ON EXPRESSING THE PAIN
01:37:58PM THAT HAS BEEN FELT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
01:38:00PM AND NOT SO TO BE WRITTEN IN A REPORT.
01:38:03PM BECAUSE I THINK ALL OF YOU KNOW, IF YOU VISIT SULPHUR
01:38:06PM SPRINGS.
01:38:06PM IF YOU VISIT ROBLES PARK COMMUNITY, A BLIGHTED COMMUNITY,
01:38:13PM YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
01:38:13PM SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO NOW.
01:38:17PM ITEM 11-27, UNDER THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS ACT.
01:38:23PM INSTEAD OF THIS MORNING CLEARING OUT LOTS.
01:38:27PM SOMEONE HAS TO TAKE COURAGE AND SAY LET'S LOOK AT WAYS THAT
01:38:31PM WE CAN BUILD A BETTER HOME THAT DON'T CRUMBLE.
01:38:35PM I CAN TELL LIVING OVER THERE WITH MY MOTHER AT ROBLES PARK
01:38:42PM DURING THE STORM.
01:38:43PM NOT ALL FELL.
01:38:44PM NOT NO WATER CAME TO HER DOORWAY.
01:38:46PM IT IS STILL STANDING EVEN THOUGH THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO
01:38:50PM TEAR THAT DOWN.
01:38:51PM AND I TELL YOU THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF TEARING DOWN THAT
01:38:55PM COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE FELT AT WINN-DIXIE, McDONALD'S, AND
01:38:58PM ALL OF THOSE LITTLE STORES THAT NEED RESOURCES COMING OUT OF
01:39:02PM OUR COMMUNITY THAT NO LONGER EXISTS.
01:39:05PM SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COURAGE OF THE COUNCIL TO MAKE
01:39:10PM RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE ADMINISTRATION THAT THIS IS THE TIME
01:39:14PM TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
01:39:17PM TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
01:39:18PM TO DO SOMETHING BOLD.
01:39:19PM TO ENTER INTO RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE UNIVERSITY.
01:39:23PM VOCATIONAL SCHOOL STUDENTS.
01:39:27PM THAT CAN PRODUCE A HOUSING PRODUCT THAT DON'T FORCE PEOPLE
01:39:30PM OUT OF THEIR COMMUNITY BUT SAY THAT TAMPA IS INDEED A CITY
01:39:34PM THAT EVERYBODY CAN LIVE.
01:39:35PM THANK YOU.
01:39:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:39:39PM THE NEXT SPEAKS ARE NOT HERE, PAULA PERRY AND
01:39:46PM VALERIE BULLOCH IS THE NEXT SPEAKER FOLLOWED BY MENTESNOT.
01:39:49PM >> I AM VALERIE BULLOCH.
01:39:50PM AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 24.
01:39:53PM EAST TAMPA -- I DON'T KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT SULPHUR SPRINGS
01:39:58PM TOO MUCH, BUT IN EAST TAMPA, WE HAVE, LIKE, FOUR GROCERY
01:40:01PM STORES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.
01:40:03PM WE HAVE WANT.
01:40:04PM I GO TO PUBLIX ON CHANNELSIDE AND SPROUTS DOWNTOWN, ACROSS
01:40:09PM THE STREET FROM THE YMCA, AND YOU HAVE THE WINN-DIXIE THERE
01:40:13PM ALSO.
01:40:14PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF MANUFACTURING PLANT BEING
01:40:16PM PUT UP IN EAST TAMPA SO THAT AT LEAST IT CAN -- IT CAN
01:40:23PM KICK-START ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, LIKE A SMALL SOLAR PLANT,
01:40:29PM OR ANYTHING THAT IS MANUFACTURING THAT CAN GO THERE.
01:40:31PM WE WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE JOBS THAT ARE FEASIBLE.
01:40:36PM THAT WE CAN WALK TO.
01:40:38PM THAT IS IN OUR COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF ANOTHER GROCERY STORE.
01:40:42PM BECAUSE THE REALITY OF IT IS, IF WE DON'T HAVE NO JOB, WE
01:40:47PM DON'T HAVE NO MONEY.
01:40:48PM WE CAN'T GO SHOPPING.
01:40:50PM SO I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD LOOK INTO.
01:40:53PM WHAT CAN BE OUR ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR EAST TAMPA?
01:40:57PM THAT IS WHAT IS MISSING.
01:40:59PM ALL THE OTHER LOCATIONS, THEY HAVE ECONOMIC ENGINES.
01:41:02PM WE HAD A BEAUTIFUL RIVERWALK.
01:41:04PM WE HAVE -- OH, I LOVE MARRIOTT WATERSIDE DOWN THERE ON
01:41:08PM CHANNELSIDE.
01:41:08PM YBOR CITY HAS GOT THE STRIPS AND THOSE BARS AND STUFF.
01:41:12PM WE DON'T -- AND WEST TAMPA HAS RIVERWALK.
01:41:15PM EAST TAMPA, DOESN'T HAVE NOTHING TO IDENTIFY AS THIS IS EAST
01:41:21PM TAMPA.
01:41:21PM THIS IS EAST TAMPA ENGINE.
01:41:23PM THIS IS WHERE WE GO TO WORK AT.
01:41:25PM THIS IS WHAT PUTS MONEY INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:41:29PM SO INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT ANOTHER GROCERY STORE, MAYBE
01:41:33PM SOMEBODY CAN GET WITH AN INDUSTRY.
01:41:35PM WOULD YOU LIKE TO INVEST IN THIS AREA?
01:41:38PM EVEN IF IT IS A PUBLIC WAREHOUSE.
01:41:40PM THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
01:41:42PM ANY STORE THAT CAN PUT A WAREHOUSE THERE.
01:41:45PM BECAUSE WHEN WINN-DIXIE WAS BEHIND FUNLAND THEATRE ON 22nd
01:41:52PM AND HILLSBOROUGH, A LOT OF US WORKED DOWN THERE.
01:41:55PM SINGLETON ON 50th STREET, THAT IS WHERE A LOT OF US WORKED
01:41:59PM AT.
01:41:59PM WE NEED AN ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR EAST TAMPA.
01:42:02PM THAT IS NUMBER ONE BEHIND MENTAL HEALTH.
01:42:05PM THANK YOU.
01:42:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
01:42:07PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:42:08PM ANDRE HILL WAS HERE EARLIER.
01:42:11PM HE IS NOT HERE.
01:42:12PM NEXT IS LIONEL HAYES FOLLOWED BY STEVE MICHELINI.
01:42:17PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILWOMAN AND COUNCILMEN, I AM
01:42:28PM PRESIDENT OF 501-C-3 ORGANIZATION.
01:42:32PM FIRST AND FOREMOST, MR. MIRANDA, THANK YOU FOR LETTING THE
01:42:37PM PUBLIC BE PART OF YOUR CELEBRATION AND THANK YOU FOR BEING
01:42:39PM AN INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS BEEN ABLE TO REALLY HELP OUR
01:42:42PM COMMUNITY.
01:42:43PM I AM AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS IMPACTED BY HELENE.
01:42:46PM OUR HOME -- WE LOST EVERYTHING.
01:42:48PM OUR NONPROFIT SUFFERED.
01:42:49PM SO THIS WAS THE FIRST EXPERIENCE OF JUST SOMETHING GOOD.
01:42:53PM AND I -- I DON'T KNOW YOU.
01:42:55PM BUT JUST BEING IN THAT ENVIRONMENT TOUCHED MY SOUL.
01:42:58PM SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THAT.
01:43:00PM BACK TO THE MATTER OF WHY I'M HERE.
01:43:02PM I CAME ABOUT 45 DAYS AGO WITH REGARDS TO CAIRO AND FRIENDS.
01:43:08PM I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT IT.
01:43:10PM AS OF RIGHT NOW IN THIS MOMENT, WE SUFFERED A LOSS OF
01:43:14PM DONATIONS.
01:43:14PM RIGHT NOW WE HAVE $100,000 WORTH OF BRAND-NEW INVENTORY WE
01:43:18PM WANT TO GIVE AWAY TO THE COMMUNITY.
01:43:21PM WE WANT TO PARTNER -- I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN BRING A
01:43:25PM TRUCKLOAD OF STUFF TO TPD, TOYS, CLOTHES, WE WANT TO MAKE
01:43:29PM SURE THAT FAMILY GETS STUFF NOW.
01:43:32PM IT IS HARD ON INDIVIDUALS RIGHT NOW.
01:43:34PM JUST THE MENTAL ASPECT OF IT.
01:43:36PM WE WERE IN OUR HOME WATCHING EVERYTHING BEING DECIMATED.
01:43:40PM AND IT JUST HURTS KNOWING WHAT WE HAVE AND HOW IT IS JUST
01:43:44PM SITTING IN A STORAGE UNIT AND NOT BEING ABLE TO BE
01:43:47PM FACILITATED THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.
01:43:49PM THE REASON I'M HERE SO HOPEFULLY SOMEWHERE -- SOMEONE OUT
01:43:52PM THERETO IN THE PUBLIC HEAR THIS, 813 MACHINE 323-1040.
01:43:57PM YOU CAN E-MAIL US AT CAIROANDFRIENDS.COM.
01:44:05PM AND YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEB SITE.
01:44:08PM WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANYONE TO MAKE A DONATION.
01:44:10PM WE ARE GIVING $100,000 WORTH OF BRAND-NEW SCHOOL SUPPLIES,
01:44:16PM TOYS AND CLOTHING FOR CHILDREN AND ALSO ADULTS.
01:44:19PM IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY TYPE OF WAYS TO SPREAD THE MESSAGE AS WELL
01:44:23PM TO YOUR AFFILIATIONS, PLEASE TO DO SO.
01:44:26PM I AM SPEAKING FROM THE HEART.
01:44:27PM AND I HOPE THAT THIS MESSAGE DOES MATERIALIZE AT THE END OF
01:44:32PM THE DAY.
01:44:32PM SO I HOPE THAT YOU, YOUR FAMILIES AND YOUR FRIENDS AS WELL
01:44:36PM WERE ABLE TO MITIGATE THE STORM.
01:44:38PM AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
01:44:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
01:44:41PM NEXT IS STEVE MICHELINI.
01:44:43PM PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS WAS HERE EARLIER.
01:44:45PM LAST SPEAKER IS POYNOR.
01:44:48PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
01:44:50PM STEVE MICHELINI.
01:44:50PM AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO CHARLIE AND HIS DEDICATION.
01:44:54PM I WAS A MERE CHILD WHEN HE FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL.
01:44:57PM ANYWAY, I THINK THE STORM PROVED A LOT OF THINGS, BUT IT NOW
01:45:04PM HAS BURDENED THE CITY STAFF.
01:45:06PM AND HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS IN TERMS OF RESTORATION,
01:45:10PM RENOVATION, AND ISSUING PERMITS AND HOW DO YOU GET IT DONE.
01:45:14PM SO THE COUNCIL MIGHT WANT TO ASK FOR A REPORT ON HOW YOU ARE
01:45:18PM GOING TO PROCESS THAT.
01:45:19PM YOU HAVE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF STRUCTURES THAT HAVE
01:45:23PM BEEN IMPACTED.
01:45:24PM AND SOME OF THEM DON'T MEET YOUR CURRENT ROADS REGARDING
01:45:28PM SETBACKS AND HEIGHTS AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DEAL WITH
01:45:31PM THAT.
01:45:31PM THE 75% RULE REGARDING RENOVATION AND RESTORATION, YOU MAY
01:45:37PM WANT TO LOOK AT THAT IN TERMS OF THE DEVASTATION.
01:45:40PM IT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AND HOW
01:45:43PM THEY DEAL WITH IT.
01:45:45PM HARDENING THE CITY SERVICES, WATER SERVICES, CENTURY SEWER
01:45:51PM SERVICES, LIFT STATIONS INCLUDING BACK-UP GENERATORS TO
01:45:54PM CONTINUE WORKING DURING A CATASTROPHE.
01:45:56PM MAY NEED BUDGET AMENDMENTS TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, BUT, AGAIN,
01:46:00PM WE JUST ADOPTED THE BUDGET FOR THE NEW YEAR, AND I AM SURE
01:46:04PM THEY WILL BE IN HERE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO HARDEN
01:46:07PM THOSE FACILITIES.
01:46:08PM I ONLY POINT IT OUT, AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY, LOOKING
01:46:12PM AT ZONINGS -- ALL NEW ZONINGS HAVE TO COMPLY WITH FEMA.
01:46:16PM THE ONES ON DAVIS ISLAND THAT WERE NEW SURVIVED BECAUSE THEY
01:46:20PM MET THE FEMA REQUIREMENT.
01:46:21PM THE ONES THAT DIDN'T WERE THE OLDER STRUCTURES.
01:46:24PM THEY DIDN'T SURVIVE.
01:46:25PM CATASTROPHIC COMPLETION -- I MEAN DEVASTATING.
01:46:31PM ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.
01:46:35PM I AM SURE YOU ARE AWARE OF IT, BUT MAY BE WORTHWHILE TO HAVE
01:46:39PM THE COUNCIL CONSIDER DOING SOME KIND OF A RESOLUTION OR
01:46:43PM EMERGENCY MOTION OR ORDINANCE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH
01:46:47PM ALL OF THE PERMITTING AND RECONSTRUCTION THAT IS GOING TO BE
01:46:50PM REQUIRED.
01:46:50PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:46:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:46:53PM LAST SPEAKER, POYNOR.
01:46:56PM THAT IS WHAT THE CARD SAYS.
01:46:58PM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
01:47:05PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
01:47:09PM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCILMAN CARLSON WHO WAS AT MY HOUSE
01:47:15PM AND ASKING WHO HE CAN HELP.
01:47:17PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
01:47:17PM THIS STORM SHOWS THAT STORMWATER REALLY NEEDS TO BE STARTED
01:47:22PM TO BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE LAND USE PHASE FOR THE CHAA.
01:47:28PM CURRENTLY IT IS NOT CONSIDERED UNTIL AFTER IT IS ALREADY
01:47:31PM APPROVED FROM YOU GUYS.
01:47:33PM IT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE STAFF REPORT COMING OUT DURING
01:47:36PM LAND DEVELOPMENT.
01:47:37PM MR. MASSEY LET ME KNOW AFTER LUNCH OR DURING LUNCH, THAT
01:47:40PM THEY ARE ALREADY MAKING CHANGES TO THE DEVELOPMENT
01:47:43PM AGREEMENTS WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOODS WILL BE NOTIFIED FROM NOW
01:47:46PM ON.
01:47:46PM I AM REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
01:47:47PM AND HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT NONSENSE WE
01:47:51PM HAD BEFORE LUNCH AGAIN.
01:47:52PM HELENE ROCKED SOUTH TAMPA'S WORLD.
01:47:56PM THREE TO FOUR INCHES -- THREE TO FOUR FEET OF WATER.
01:48:00PM I SPOKE TO LARRY WASHINGTON A HALF A DOZEN TIMES SINCE THE
01:48:03PM HURRICANE HIT.
01:48:04PM MOST OF THESE PEOPLE -- MOST OF WHAT WAS LOST SOUTH OF GANDY
01:48:07PM IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
01:48:09PM IT IS HOUSING THAT HAS BEEN FAMILIES FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND
01:48:14PM YEARS.
01:48:14PM 800, 900, 1,000-SQUARE-FOOT HOUSES.
01:48:18PM WHERE ARE THESE FOLKS GOING TO GO?
01:48:22PM AND I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR -- FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE
01:48:28PM SANDBAGS, BECAUSE I HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SAID IT WAS NICE
01:48:32PM TO PICK UP THOSE SANDBAGS AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO FILL THEM
01:48:36PM OURSELVES.
01:48:36PM THAT IS SOMETHING WE DID AFTER IAN.
01:48:39PM THE NEW HOMELESS LAW.
01:48:41PM MY GOSH.
01:48:41PM I ALREADY GOTTEN TEXTS THAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING CITATIONS
01:48:45PM DOWNTOWN.
01:48:46PM THAT'S KIND OF CRAZY CONSIDERING WE JUST INCREASED OUR
01:48:51PM HOMELESS POPULATION BY THOUSANDS.
01:48:55PM SO WE GOT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
01:48:57PM ENFORCEMENT.
01:48:58PM I MEAN THEY ARE WRITING WARNINGS AND CITATIONS AND TAKING
01:49:02PM PEOPLE TO JAIL.
01:49:03PM I DON'T KNOW, THAT IS WHAT I AM HEARING.
01:49:05PM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ISN'T PERFECT, BUT LET ME TELL YOU
01:49:09PM SOMETHING, IF THERE IS ONE THING THAT OUR MAYOR DOES REALLY,
01:49:12PM REALLY WELL, I THINK IS THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
01:49:15PM NOW WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH NOW IS SOMETHING THAT NOBODY
01:49:18PM ANTICIPATED.
01:49:18PM THE BIG THING THAT I SEE COMING FROM THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS
01:49:23PM IN OUR COMMUNITY IS, WE GOT FOLKS WHO PUT ALL OF THE STUFF
01:49:28PM OUT OF THEIR HOUSE, GOTTEN IT TO THE CURVE.
01:49:30PM LARRY AND HIS CREW ARE DOING GREAT JOB PICKING THIS UP AND
01:49:34PM ADJUSTORS ARE SAYING PUT THE STUFF BACK IN YOUR HOUSE.
01:49:37PM OH, MY GOSH, ARE YOU FRICKEN KIDDING ME, LIVE WITH THAT
01:49:44PM FILTH AND DISGUSTS FOR THE APPRAISERS TO SHOW UP.
01:49:48PM THERE SHOULD BE A CHECKLIST WHAT YOU CAN DO.
01:49:50PM THE CITY, STATE OR COUNTRY THING.
01:49:55PM IT IS NEEDED BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STEP IS.
01:49:58PM WE ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE THIS AGAIN.
01:50:01PM NOT THE FIRST, AND NOT THE LAST.
01:50:05PM CONGRATULATIONS, CHARLIE, YOU HAVE BEEN UP THERE ELEMENT AS
01:50:11PM LONG AS MY MOUTH.
01:50:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM 5-10.
01:50:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE ITEM 5-10.
01:50:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND
01:50:20PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:50:21PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:50:24PM OPPOSED?
01:50:27PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, 11-17 THE EXCLUSION OF 14.
01:50:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I MOVE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS
01:50:39PM COMMITTEE ITEMS 11-27 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 14.
01:50:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
01:50:44PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:50:47PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:50:48PM OPPOSED.
01:50:48PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:50:49PM 28-35.
01:50:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
01:50:52PM I MOVE ITEMS 38-35.
01:50:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:50:56PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:50:58PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:50:59PM OPPOSED.
01:50:59PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, 36-40.
01:51:02PM ITEM 41 WILL APPEAR UNDER STAFF REPORT
01:51:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [ INAUDIBLE]
01:51:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:51:09PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:51:11PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:51:12PM OPPOSED?
01:51:14PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:51:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: 42-53.
01:51:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
01:51:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:51:20PM ANY OPPOSED?
01:51:22PM OKAY.
01:51:22PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:51:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE ITEMS 54-56.
01:51:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:51:29PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
01:51:30PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:51:31PM ANY OPPOSED?
01:51:33PM ALL RIGHT.
01:51:34PM WE HAVE TO SET THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS, BUT WE HAVE RECEIVED
01:51:37PM QUITE A FEW E-MAILS REGARDING THE DATES.
01:51:39PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:51:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
01:51:42PM I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH -- WITH FOLKS ON THIS.
01:51:45PM AND SO I HAVE -- I HAVE AN IDEA, A SUGGESTION.
01:51:49PM RIGHT NOW DECEMBER 5, WHICH IS A REGULAR SESSION IS LOW.
01:51:55PM WE HAVE TWO COMMENDATIONS AND THREE STAFF REPORTS.
01:51:59PM IF WE KEEP TWO COMMENDATIONS AND THREE STAFF REPORTS, WE CAN
01:52:03PM FINISH BY LUNCH AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK IN THE EVENING TO
01:52:07PM DO THIS ONE ITEM.
01:52:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
01:52:14PM >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
01:52:17PM I WANTED TO LET CITY COUNCIL KNOW THAT WHEN WE STARTED
01:52:21PM TALKING OF POTENTIAL OTHER DATES FOR THE HEARING THAT WE ARE
01:52:24PM REQUESTING BE SET WITH REGARD TO A FLUEDRA SETTLEMENT,
01:52:32PM JAKE CREMER LET ME KNOW THAT TWO KEY MEMBERS OF HIS TEAM
01:52:36PM WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE ON DECEMBER 5.
01:52:38PM I ASKED FOR EVENINGS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE, AND HE WASN'T
01:52:42PM ABLE TO CIRCLE BACK.
01:52:43PM AT THIS POINT, IF COUNCIL IS LOOKING AT CONSIDERING A
01:52:47PM DIFFERENT DATE OTHER THAN THE EVENING OF NOVEMBER 14, WE CAN
01:52:52PM DO IT AT COUNCIL'S DISCRETION OR IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE IT
01:52:55PM TO NEXT WEEK'S EVENING MEETING, WE CAN THEN PROVIDE DATES
01:52:59PM THAT WILL WORK FOR THE PARTIES TO THIS MATTER.
01:53:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T KNOW HOW THE OTHER
01:53:04PM COUNCILMEMBERS FEEL.
01:53:04PM I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
01:53:06PM I SAW ONE E-MAIL COME THROUGH BRINGING UP JANUARY.
01:53:10PM SO YOU KNOW, SO IT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH ANYTHING ELSE.
01:53:15PM WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE TALK WITH ALL THE PARTIES.
01:53:18PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:53:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE REGULAR READERS OF
01:53:21PM "CREATIVE LOAFING," BUT WE WON AN AWARD FOR MOST WATCHED --
01:53:26PM MOST ENTERTAINING LATE NIGHT TELEVISION.
01:53:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: REALLY?
01:53:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE WOULD PREFER NOT TO WIN THAT ONE AGAIN.
01:53:32PM >>CATE WELLS: I AGREE.
01:53:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE COMMUNITY IN WHOLE AGREES.
01:53:38PM THEY ARE SAYING -- IT IS -- IT WAS DONE TONGUE AND CHEEK.
01:53:44PM AND I THINK WE ALL -- AGREE.
01:53:46PM I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL --
01:53:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT THURSDAY EVENING.
01:53:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THURSDAY EVENING AT 5 -- DO WE HAVE TO MAKE
01:53:54PM IT TIME CERTAIN?
01:53:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FIRST ON THE AGENDA.
01:53:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FIRST ON THE AGENDA FOR OCTOBER 10, EVENING
01:54:02PM SESSION.
01:54:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
01:54:05PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
01:54:06PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN?
01:54:08PM ANY OPPOSED?
01:54:09PM ALL RIGHT.
01:54:09PM HOW ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 58.
01:54:11PM ANY CONFLICTS THERE.
01:54:13PM OKAY, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN IS MOVING ITEM 58 TO SET THE
01:54:17PM PUBLIC HEARING FOR DECEMBER 5, 2024.
01:54:20PM 10:30 A.M.
01:54:22PM 315 E. KENNEDY, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33062.
01:54:25PM H 247-94.
01:54:30PM THAT IS JUST TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING.
01:54:32PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:54:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I BELIEVE -- IS THIS -- IS THIS LEASE
01:54:38PM AGREEMENT IN THE -- IN ON BASE RIGHT NOW?
01:54:46PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE LEASE AGREEMENT IS ATTACHED AND ON
01:54:50PM BASE.
01:54:50PM ON YOUR AGENDA RIGHT NOW, COPIES ARE ARRIVE TO THE CLERK'S
01:54:54PM OFFICE WHEN YOU SET THE PUBLIC HEARING SO THEY WILL BE IN
01:54:57PM BOTH PLACES.
01:54:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE DO THE LEASE
01:54:59PM AGREEMENT THAT THE PUBLIC CAN LOOK AT THIS.
01:55:02PM THE PUBLIC HAS UNTIL NOVEMBER 5 TO LOOK AT THE LEASE
01:55:08PM AGREEMENT FOR A PUBLIC PARK AND PUBLIC ENTITY.
01:55:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION.
01:55:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION.
01:55:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
01:55:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OPEN ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
01:55:21PM ITEM 59 IS NONQUASI-JUDICIAL.
01:55:23PM AT THIS POINT, JUST TO GET IT OUT OF THE WAY, IF ANYONE IS
01:55:27PM HERE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS WHICH ARE
01:55:32PM QUASI-JUDICIAL WHICH IS 60 AND BEYOND, PLEASE RAISE YOUR
01:55:35PM RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
01:55:38PM [SWEARING IN]
01:55:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS ALEX SCHALER ONLINE -- IT IS NONQUASI
01:55:53PM JUDICIAL, I AM SORRY.
01:55:55PM THAT'S RIGHT.
01:55:56PM ITEM NUMBER 59.
01:55:58PM >>EMILY PHELAN: CAN YOU HEAR ME?
01:56:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
01:56:02PM [INAUDIBLE]
01:56:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, IT IS VERY, VERY CHOPPY.
01:56:06PM THE SIGNAL IS WEAK.
01:56:07PM >>EMILY PHELAN: OKAY.
01:56:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE AUDIO.
01:56:12PM [INAUDIBLE]
01:56:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU CONNECT AND DISCONNECT.
01:56:26PM IT IS VERY ROBOTIC.
01:56:28PM WE WILL HOLD ITEM 59, AND WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 60.
01:56:33PM IF YOU WERE HERE TO PRESENT ON 60 -- LET'S SEE.
01:56:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, AS A REMINDER, I NEED TO LEAVE HERE
01:56:40PM AT ABOUT 3:30.
01:56:42PM APOLOGIZE -- SOMETHING ABOUT MY SON IN A PLAY.
01:56:46PM MY APOLOGIES FOR THAT.
01:56:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE MAY BE DONE, WE MAY NOT.
01:56:51PM IF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAS KNOCKED ON WOOD, IT IS A STRONG
01:56:55PM POSSIBILITY HERE.
01:56:56PM ALL RIGHT, YES.
01:57:01PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
01:57:03PM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
01:57:05PM COUNCIL, ITEM 60 IS A SECOND READING ITEM REZ 24-18 FOR THE
01:57:10PM PROPERTY AT 2109 WEST FRUIT STREET.
01:57:14PM THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RS-60
01:57:17PM RESIDENTIAL TO RM-18, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
01:57:21PM THIS IS A EUCLIDIAN REQUEST SO NO SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH
01:57:27PM THIS REQUEST AND IT IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND-READING
01:57:30PM CONSIDERATION.
01:57:30PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
01:57:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS, NO?
01:57:34PM >> FRANCISCO TERCOSIO.
01:57:39PM AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE THE FIRST READING.
01:57:42PM WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT TO A REZONING FROM RS-50 TO RM-18.
01:57:47PM WE UNDERSTAND IF THE PETITION IS APPROVED, THE ZONING MUST
01:57:51PM ADHERE TO THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR A MAXIMUM DENSITY
01:57:56PM FLOOR AREA RATIO LIMITS AND PERMISSIBLE USES IN THE RM-18
01:58:03PM AND MUST COMPLY WITH THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY STRICT STANDARDS
01:58:07PM THAT WE WILL FULLY COMPLY WITH AT PERMITTING.
01:58:09PM ALL CITY OF TAMPA DEVELOPMENT STAFF INCLUDING THE TAMPA
01:58:13PM DOCTOR THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CITY-COUNTY PLANNING
01:58:17PM COMMISSION FOUND IT TO BE CONSISTENT.
01:58:18PM AND WE ARE RESPECTFULLY ASKING THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE OUR
01:58:21PM PETITION.
01:58:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR GENTLEMAN?
01:58:30PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK.
01:58:32PM >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
01:58:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU REVIEWED ALL THE CASES.
01:58:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, I DID.
01:58:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
01:58:41PM CLENDENIN.
01:58:41PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:58:43PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:58:44PM OPPOSED.
01:58:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 6 IS REZ 24-18, ORDINANCE FOR
01:58:50PM SECOND READING ADOPTION.
01:58:52PM REZONINGS IS 3909 WEST PROOF STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
01:58:57PM FLORIDA, PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED AS ZONING DISTRICT
01:59:00PM CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO RM-18,
01:59:04PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
01:59:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
01:59:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A FAVORITE.
01:59:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
01:59:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
01:59:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
01:59:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
01:59:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
01:59:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
01:59:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
01:59:22PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
01:59:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS.
01:59:27PM WE WILL GO TO ITEM 59.
01:59:29PM SEE IF SHE RESTARTED HER COMPUTER.
01:59:32PM IS SHE BACK ON?
01:59:46PM SHE IS ON?
01:59:46PM ITEM 59.
01:59:47PM IF YOU WERE BACK ON, PLEASE TURN YOUR CAMERA BACK ON.
01:59:50PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:00:01PM >>EMILY PHELAN: EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
02:00:12PM A MAP AMENDMENT WITH MULTIPLE PARCELS.
02:00:14PM COLUMBUS DRIVE.
02:00:18PM THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE TO
02:00:22PM RESIDENTIAL-35 AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 TO URBAN MIXED
02:00:26PM USE-60 AND COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
02:00:28PM FROM THE SEPTEMBER 12, 2024 HEARING.
02:00:34PM AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM AVAILABLE.
02:00:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
02:00:39PM NO?
02:00:40PM ALL RIGHT.
02:00:40PM APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 60.
02:00:43PM THERE WAS ONE ON LINE, ALEX SCHALER.
02:00:47PM SHE WAS REGISTERED SO -- NO?
02:00:51PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 59.
02:00:54PM I SEE NO ONE.
02:00:55PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:00:57PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:00:58PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:00:59PM OPPOSED.
02:01:00PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, 59.
02:01:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
02:01:02PM MOVE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
02:01:05PM ADOPTION AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
02:01:08PM FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE
02:01:11PM PROPERTY LOCATED 2301, 2037, 3315 FLORIDA AVENUE EAST
02:01:20PM ARMENIA AND 205, 207 AND 208 COLUMBUS DRIVE FROM CC-35 AND
02:01:27PM RESIDENTIAL-35, R-35 TO URBAN MIXED HOURS 60, UMU 60 AND
02:01:34PM COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, CMU-35, PROVIDED FOR REPEAL OF ALL
02:01:38PM ORDINANCES AND PROVIDED FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING A
02:01:43PM SECOND DATE.
02:01:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
02:01:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:01:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
02:01:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:01:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:01:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:01:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:01:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
02:01:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:01:54PM >>CLERK: MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:01:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:01:58PM ITEM NUMBER 61.
02:02:01PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, ITEM 61, LaCHONE DOCK.
02:02:05PM LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
02:02:08PM 2511 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE.
02:02:10PM A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RO, RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO PD,
02:02:15PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
02:02:15PM THIS IS FOR ALL COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD USES SITE PLAN NOT
02:02:22PM ANY CASES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
02:02:24PM THOSE CHANGES WERE MADE AND PLAN IS MADE AVAILABLE TO THE
02:02:28PM CLERK.
02:02:28PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
02:02:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DOCK?
02:02:33PM NO?
02:02:34PM MR. MICHELINI.
02:02:35PM >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER, 2511 NORTH
02:02:40PM HOWARD.
02:02:41PM YOU MAY RECALL AN EXISTING BUILDING THAT WE ARE HAVING TO
02:02:44PM CHANGE TO ALLOW THE USE FOR THE OFFICE THAT IS ALREADY
02:02:47PM EXISTING THERE.
02:02:48PM WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL, AND I WILL BE HAPPY
02:02:51PM TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
02:02:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
02:02:54PM ANYONE IN THE PUB WISH TO SPEAK ON 61.
02:02:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
02:03:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
02:03:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:03:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY I WAS ABSENT AT VOTE, AND I
02:03:06PM REVIEWED AND I AM PREPARED TO VOTE.
02:03:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND LET ME CHECK THE OTHERS.
02:03:10PM YES, MA'AM, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:03:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FILE NUMBER 2024-20, ORDINANCE PRESENTED
02:03:16PM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
02:03:19PM IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2511 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE IN THE
02:03:23PM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
02:03:26PM SECTION 1 FROM ZONING RO, RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO PD PLANNED
02:03:32PM DEVELOPMENT.
02:03:34PM ALL NEIGHBORHOOD USES PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:03:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND
02:03:42PM SECONDED BY MIRANDA.
02:03:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
02:03:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:03:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:03:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
02:03:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:03:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:03:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:03:52PM >>CLERK: MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
02:03:54PM ITEM NUMBER 26.
02:04:06PM YOU WILL BE ABSTAINING.
02:04:09PM DO YOU WANT TO STEP OUT OF THE ROOM?
02:04:11PM YES, SIR.
02:04:13PM YES, MA'AM.
02:04:14PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.
02:04:16PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
02:04:18PM ITEM 62 IS FILE REZ-24-59 FOR THE PROPERTY 405 NORTH ARMENIA
02:04:26PM AND 2322 WEST GRAY STREET.
02:04:29PM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RM-60 RESIDENTIAL FAMILY TO PD
02:04:35PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DEVELOPMENT.
02:04:39PM SITE PLAN TOURING FIRST AND SECOND READING AFTERNOON AND
02:04:43PM CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
02:04:44PM THE PLAN HAS BEEN CERTIFIED TO THE CLERK.
02:04:47PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
02:04:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
02:04:51PM >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER, 405 NORTH
02:04:56PM ARMENIA.
02:04:56PM YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS IS A REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT IN ADJACENT
02:05:00PM TO HJC.
02:05:03PM AN ENHANCEMENT OF THE BIKE AND TRAIL.
02:05:07PM AND ENHANCE WITH TREES IN SIZE IN CALIPER TO MAKE IT A
02:05:14PM PARKWAY ALONG THE SOUTHERN CORNER OF JCC.
02:05:18PM WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AND WILL BE HAPPY TO
02:05:21PM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
02:05:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
02:05:24PM ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM,
02:05:26PM ITEM NUMBER 62.
02:05:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
02:05:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:05:32PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:05:33PM ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:05:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FILE NUMBER REZ-24-58, ORDINANCE FOR --
02:05:44PM 24-58, EXCUSE ME.
02:05:46PM NO, I WAS RIGHT.
02:05:47PM SEE -- SEE HOW THAT YOU GOES.
02:05:50PM SO WE WILL START OVER.
02:05:53PM I AM MOVING FILE NUMBER REZ-24-58, ORDINANCE FOR SECOND
02:05:57PM READING AND ADOPTION.
02:05:58PM ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL RESIN TEE OF HAD
02:06:02PM 005 NORTH ARMENIA AND 2322 WEST GRAY STREET IN CITY OF
02:06:10PM TAMPA, FLORIDA, FOR RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD
02:06:17PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY PROVIDE AN
02:06:20PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:06:21PM I DID HEAR WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING ATTACHED -- OR IS THAT
02:06:25PM IS IT?
02:06:26PM VERY GOOD.
02:06:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
02:06:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:06:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:06:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:06:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
02:06:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
02:06:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:06:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALLCO: YES.
02:06:38PM >>CLERK: MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WITH MIRANDA
02:06:42PM ABSTAINING.
02:06:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:06:45PM THANK YOU, SIR ITEM NUMBER 63.
02:06:50PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:06:51PM ITEM NUMBER 63 REZ-24-06.
02:06:58PM 2409 WEST FIG STREET FROM RM-16 TO RM-18.
02:07:08PM SITE PLAN IS NOT NEEDED FOR THIS REQUEST.
02:07:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DOCK.
02:07:13PM MR. MICHELINI, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:07:16PM >> MR. STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER AT 2409
02:07:24PM WEST FIG, AND I AM ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
02:07:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON
02:07:34PM ITEM 63.
02:07:35PM A MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:07:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
02:07:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:07:40PM ANY OPPOSED?
02:07:41PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:07:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: REZ-24-60 ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND
02:07:46PM ADOPTION.
02:07:47PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
02:07:51PM 2409 WEST FIG STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
02:07:54PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONINGS DISTRICT
02:07:57PM CLASSIFICATION RM-16, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO RM-18,
02:08:03PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:08:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:08:07PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:08:08PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:08:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:08:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
02:08:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
02:08:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:08:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:08:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:08:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:08:17PM >>CLERK: MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
02:08:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:08:22PM ITEM NUMBER 64.
02:08:23PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:08:25PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
02:08:27PM ITEM 64 IS REZ-24-64 FOR THE PROPERTY AT 709 WEST PARK
02:08:33PM AVENUE.
02:08:33PM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RS-60 TO RS-50,
02:08:39PM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
02:08:40PM THIS IS AN EUCLIDIAN REZONING REQUEST AND NO SITE PLAN
02:08:43PM ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST.
02:08:44PM AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
02:08:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DOCK?
02:08:50PM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:08:51PM >> STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER AT 709 WEST
02:08:57PM PARK.
02:08:58PM COUNCIL MAY REMEMBER THIS IS A REORIENTATION THAT THE DOORS
02:09:02PM FACE THE PARK INSTEAD OF A SIDE STREET.
02:09:05PM THIS ENABLES THAT TO HAPPEN.
02:09:06PM RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
02:09:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
02:09:11PM ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 64.
02:09:15PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:09:19PM ITEM NUMBER 65.
02:09:21PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT
02:09:29PM ITEM 65 --
02:09:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, WAIT, MISS DOCK.
02:09:32PM HOLD ON.
02:09:32PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:09:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE -- I MOVE FILE NUMBER REZ-24-64,
02:09:42PM ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE IN THE
02:09:45PM GENERAL VICINITY OF 709 WEST PARK AVENUE IN THE CITY OF
02:09:49PM TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1,
02:09:54PM IN RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND RS-50.
02:09:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
02:10:03PM YES.
02:10:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
02:10:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:10:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:10:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:10:15PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK.
02:10:19PM ITEM NUMBER 65 IS REZ-24-65, CHIPPEWA AVENUE.
02:10:29PM FROM RS-60 TO RS-50.
02:10:33PM EUCLIDIAN ZONING AND NO SITE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST.
02:10:37PM IT IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR
02:10:41PM ANY QUESTIONS.
02:10:42PM >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
02:10:44PM COUNCIL, YOU MAY RECALL DISCUSSION OF DRAINAGE AND
02:10:47PM STORMWATER PROTECTION.
02:10:48PM AND ALL NEW PROJECTS WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT.
02:10:51PM AND IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT THE OLDER HOMES IN DAVIS ISLAND
02:10:54PM OF DEVASTATED; HOWEVER, NEW PROJECTS WITH NEW DRAINAGE
02:10:58PM REQUIREMENTS AND NEW AFFILIATIONS AND CONSIDERATIONS FOR
02:11:04PM THAT WILL HELP TO CREATE A RESILIENCY.
02:11:06PM PETITIONER HAS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF THE COUNCIL WISHES
02:11:10PM TO HEAR IT, BUT WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR
02:11:14PM APPROVAL.
02:11:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:11:15PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON 65?
02:11:18PM YES, SIR, COME ON UP.
02:11:19PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:11:25PM >> YES, GOOD AFTERNOON, BILL SHELLHART, 573 LUZAN IN DAVIS
02:11:32PM ISLAND.
02:11:33PM I LIVED THERE FOR 12 YEARS.
02:11:36PM I LOVE THE ISLANDS.
02:11:39PM I LOVE THE LIFESTYLE.
02:11:40PM I UNDERSTAND THE OPPOSITION THAT COUNCIL HEARD DURING THE
02:11:43PM FIRST READING AND PEOPLE NOT WANTING CHANGE.
02:11:46PM MY HOME IS A 1950s RANCH HOME.
02:11:49PM IT COMPLETELY FLOODED DUE TO THE STORM SURGE FROM HELENE.
02:11:53PM WHILE WE WANT TO PRESERVE THE PAST, WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE
02:11:59PM THAT WE LIVE IN AN AREA THAT IS SUSCEPTIBLE TO THIS TYPE OF
02:12:03PM CHANGE.
02:12:03PM MY UNDERSTANDING FROM WHAT IS PROPOSED TO BE BUILT HERE WILL
02:12:07PM COMPLY WITH FEMA REQUIREMENTS.
02:12:08PM IT WILL BE A SPACE WHERE PEOPLE WON'T HAVE TO WORRY OF THEIR
02:12:12PM HOMES FLOODING AND THEY WON'T HAVE TO DO WHAT I DID, WADE IN
02:12:19PM CHEST-DEEP WATER CARRYING MY 70-POUND DOG TO MY NEIGHBOR'S
02:12:25PM HOME TO RIDE OUT THIS STORM.
02:12:27PM ASKING THAT THIS COURT -- THIS BODY PASS THE ORDINANCE.
02:12:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:12:32PM ANYONE ELSE THAT WILL SPEAK.
02:12:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
02:12:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
02:12:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE.
02:12:40PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:12:41PM OPPOSED.
02:12:42PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:12:44PM 65.
02:12:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 65, REZ-24-65, ORDINANCE PRESENTED
02:12:50PM FOR SECOND READING.
02:12:51PM 206 CHIPPEWA AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
02:12:57PM RESIDENTIAL 60 TO RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY PROVIDING
02:13:03PM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:13:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:13:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
02:13:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
02:13:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:13:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:13:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
02:13:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
02:13:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:13:15PM >>CLERK: MOTION PASSES WITH VIERA AND HURTAK VOTING NO.
02:13:21PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
02:13:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NUMBER 66, MISS DOCK.
02:13:27PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:13:28PM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
02:13:30PM ITEM 66, IS REZ-24-66.
02:13:35PM THE PROPERTY AT 4001 WEST CARMEN STREET TO REZONE FROM RS-50
02:13:41PM RESIDENTIAL FAMILY TO PD FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
02:13:45PM DETACHED USE.
02:13:46PM THE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN
02:13:50PM FIRST AND SECOND READING.
02:13:52PM CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
02:13:53PM THE PLAN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
02:13:55PM THIS ITEM IS BEFORE ARE NOW SECOND READING.
02:13:58PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
02:14:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTION FOR MISS DOCK?
02:14:03PM NO?
02:14:04PM DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR NUMBER 66.
02:14:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
02:14:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC?
02:14:11PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:14:12PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:14:14PM COUNCIL VIERA, 66.
02:14:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
02:14:20PM IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4001 WEST CARMEN STREET IN THE
02:14:26PM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND STICKILY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
02:14:30PM 1, RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED
02:14:34PM DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, DETACHED.
02:14:37PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:14:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:14:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:14:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:14:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:14:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
02:14:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
02:14:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:14:50PM >>CLERK: MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
02:14:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:14:54PM ITEM 67 IS A REVIEW HEARING.
02:14:58PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD AFTERNOON, CAMARIA
02:15:00PM PETTIS-MACKLE WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:15:01PM ITEM NUMBER 69 IS A REVIEW HEARING FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED
02:15:08PM AT 5710 EAST ADAMO DRIVE.
02:15:12PM THE PETITIONER IS MR. WILLIAM MOLLOY, WHO FILED A REQUEST TO
02:15:16PM REDUCE THE WETLAND SETBACKS WHICH REQUIRES BY CODE A MINIMUM
02:15:22PM OF 15 FEET.
02:15:24PM THEIR REQUEST TO REDUCE THAT TO ZERO FEET.
02:15:27PM THAT IS IN REGARDS TO -- YOU COULD FIND THAT PROVISION IN
02:15:30PM CODE SECTION 27-286, SUBSECTIONS B.
02:15:35PM STAFF DENIED THAT REQUEST ON JUNE 7, 2024.
02:15:39PM I PROVIDED CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS A COPY OF CODE SECTION
02:15:45PM 27-286, WHICH IS THE WETLAND PROTECTIONS AND BUFFER.
02:15:51PM I PROVIDED CAPE OF 27-06 WHICH IS THE CRITERIA FOR THE
02:15:55PM ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTION AND CODE SECTION 27-61 WHICH IS
02:16:03PM THE REVIEW HEARING CRITERIA.
02:16:04PM IN YOUR PACKET ARE ALSO -- IS A SAMPLE MOTION AND RULES OF
02:16:09PM PROCEDURE FOR CITY COUNCIL TO USE IN ORDER TO CONDUCT THIS
02:16:11PM REVIEW HEARING AS STATED IN CODE SECTION 27-61,
02:16:18PM SUBJECTION J-3.
02:16:19PM A DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING AND CITY COUNCIL CAN RECEIVE NEW
02:16:23PM EVIDENCE.
02:16:23PM THE STAFF THAT IS PRESENT IN ORDER FOR MORE INFORMATION AND
02:16:29PM THE REASON FOR IT.
02:16:30PM AND THE DECISION.
02:16:37PM AFTER CITY COUNCIL HEARS ALL EVIDENCE REGARDING THIS MATTER,
02:16:41PM CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING
02:16:45PM ADMINISTRATOR AND DENY THE ASK TO REDUCE THE WETLAND
02:16:49PM -- OR CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE ZONING
02:16:54PM ADMINISTRATOR DECISION.
02:16:54PM AND, THEREFORE, APPROVE THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT TO
02:16:58PM REDUCE THE WETLAND SETBACKS.
02:17:00PM IF THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. EYSTER FOR THE
02:17:06PM PRESENTATION FROM STAFF.
02:17:06PM >> YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
02:17:08PM STATE YOUR.
02:17:14PM >>STEVEN EYSTER: CITY OF TAMPA.
02:17:18PM THIS APPLICATION IS DE 124-153-C AT 5710 ADAMO DRIVE.
02:17:25PM THIS WAS CONTINUED FROM THE SEPTEMBER 5 HEARING, 2024.
02:17:28PM JUST A QUICK BREAK DOWN OF THE PROPERTY.
02:17:32PM WILLIAM J. MOLLOY IS THE PETITIONER.
02:17:36PM ADDRESS 5710.
02:17:38PM THE ZONING IS INDUSTRY HEAVY AND THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW THE
02:17:42PM ENCROACHMENT FROM 15 DOWN TO 0 THROUGH A DESIGN EXCEPTION.
02:17:48PM THIS.
02:17:50PM HERE IS THE CODE SECTION THAT CAMARIA REFERENCED IN REMEMBER
02:17:54PM PRESENTATION.
02:17:55PM THE BUFFER IS REDUCED TO 15 FEET WITH AN AVERAGE OF 25.
02:18:00PM MORE OF A RECONFIGURATION THAN AN ELIMINATION.
02:18:04PM SQUARE FOOTAGES AND EVERYTHING HAS TO EQUAL OUT AT THE END
02:18:08PM OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
02:18:09PM THIS IS THE OVERVIEW OF THE MAP.
02:18:10PM YOU CAN SEE ADAMO DRIVE IN THE FRONT.
02:18:12PM AND THEN THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
02:18:14PM THIS IS THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
02:18:18PM THE AREA OUTLINED IN RED IS THE CURRENT UPLAND AREA THE
02:18:23PM SITE.
02:18:23PM THE HASHED AREA TO THE SOUTH IS THE APPROVED EPC IMPACT
02:18:31PM FUND.
02:18:31PM THIS IS A COLOR-CODED VERSION THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE
02:18:35PM APPLICATION SHOWING THE PRIMARY IMPACTS, THE SECONDARY
02:18:38PM IMPACTS, AND THE -- AND THE WALL, THE RETAINING WALL THAT IS
02:18:42PM GOING TO BE INSTALLED.
02:18:43PM ALL THOSE WERE APPROVED THROUGH S.W.F.W.M.D. AND
02:18:49PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY EPC.
02:18:51PM HERE IS A CLOSE-UP OF THAT DIAGRAM SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE.
02:18:55PM SO THE REASON FOR DEBT NILE IS THE CODE DOES NOT PROVIDE
02:19:00PM EXEMPTIONS FOR RETAINING WALLS, SIMILAR -- DUE TO THEIR
02:19:05PM TYPICAL STRUCTURE OF JUST HOLDING SOIL BACK FROM AN AREA
02:19:09PM COMPARED TO A SEAWALL THAT RECEIVES WAVE APPLICATION AND
02:19:14PM THINGS LIKE THAT.
02:19:14PM A SEAWALL PROVIDES AN EXEMPTION AND LIMITS THE SETBACK.
02:19:18PM THIS IS THE REVIEW CRITERIA THAT CAMARIA PROVIDED TO YOU AND
02:19:33PM THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL.
02:19:34PM APPLICATION WAS DISAPPROVED DUE TO THE REDUCTION IN THE
02:19:38PM 25-FOOT SETBACK.
02:19:39PM THE APPLICANT PROVIDED OF THE WETLAND IMPACTS OF APPROVAL OF
02:19:44PM THE RETAINING WALL BUT DUE TO THE CODE, THE 25-FOOT BUFFER
02:19:53PM STILL IN PLACE FROM THAT WALL POINT FORWARD.
02:19:56PM AND THEN 27-286, DOES NOT WAVE THE REQUIREMENTS.
02:20:05PM THAT MEANS REDUCTIONS, SQUARE FOOTAGES HAVE TO EQUAL OUT.
02:20:12PM IF THEY CAN'T PROVIDE EQUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE,
02:20:17PM THE APPLICANT IS THEN DENIED.
02:20:18PM THIS REQUEST IS REQUESTING TO GO TO ZERO WITH NO
02:20:26PM COMPENSATION FOR WETLAND IMPACTS.
02:20:29PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
02:20:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:20:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU GO BACK A COUPLE OF PAGES TO A MAP.
02:20:39PM THAT IS FINE.
02:20:46PM WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS, IF THIS WAS A SEAWALL, WE WOULDN'T
02:20:50PM BE HERE.
02:20:51PM >> CORRECT.
02:20:52PM I THINK THE BIGGER QUESTION IS SEAWALLS AND RETAINING WALLS
02:21:05PM DON'T REQUIRE A PERMIT.
02:21:09PM >> STEVEN EYSTER: WHEN A SEAWALL IS INSTALLED IT PROVIDES
02:21:16PM HARD SCAPE BETWEEN THE WETLAND AND THE UPLAND SIDE.
02:21:20PM AT THAT POINT THE WETLAND BUFFER IS REMOVED AND THE SEAWALL
02:21:25PM IS THE NEW STOPPING POINT.
02:21:27PM IT SAY AS DOUBLE SILT FENCE.
02:21:38PM WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
02:21:39PM >> THE DOUBLE SILT FENCING THAT APPLIES TO WHEN THEY ARE
02:21:42PM DOING THE CONSTRUCTION PART SO THE SITE DOESN'T WASH OUT
02:21:51PM INTO THE WETLANDS.
02:21:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT I THOUGHT AND BUILDING A RETAINING WALL
02:21:54PM THAT WILL BE RAISED.
02:21:59PM >> BETWEEN THE NEW SITE AND THE LOCATION.
02:22:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY REASON WE HAVE NOT APPROVED IT
02:22:04PM BECAUSE IT IS TECHNICALLY NOT IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
02:22:07PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
02:22:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
02:22:12PM ANYONE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS?
02:22:13PM WE HAVE THE APPLICANT.
02:22:14PM MR. MOLLOY IS HERE.
02:22:16PM STATE YOUR NAME.
02:22:16PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMEMBERS, 325 SOUTH BOULEVARD,
02:22:21PM TAMPA, FLORIDA.
02:22:21PM I REALIZE THIS IS AN APPEAL ON THE AGENDA, I WOULD LIKE TO
02:22:25PM MAKE THE COMMENT, I KNOW THERE IS SOMETHING A LITTLE
02:22:30PM PEJORATIVE OF AN APPEAL THAT WE HAVE DENIED.
02:22:34PM WE ARE IN A SITUATION THAT IS AN I THINK YEAR EXERCISE.
02:22:38PM A NICE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
02:22:43PM FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY, WE NEED YOUR APPROVAL BECAUSE
02:22:53PM IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THE REDUCTION WE ARE REQUESTING FOR.
02:22:56PM THIS NOT TO DO IT TREMENDOUS HERE.
02:22:58PM BUT MAKING SURE THIS RETAINING WALL IS AN EFFECTIVE VERTICAL
02:23:07PM BARRIER THAN HORIZONTAL.
02:23:08PM THAT IS HOW TECHNICALLY I CAN SPEAK TO IT BUT I HAVE BOTH MY
02:23:12PM ENGINEERS TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT FOR YOU.
02:23:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE NOT LOSING ANY WETLAND SPACE BY
02:23:28PM APPROVING THIS.
02:23:29PM >> DEFINITELY, ONE ON ONE.
02:23:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE WETLAND WHETHER WE APPROVE IT OR NOT
02:23:36PM WILL STAY THE SAME.
02:23:37PM >> YES, SIR.
02:23:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE ONLY REASON WE ARE HERE THAT THE
02:23:40PM EXISTING CODE DOES NOT PERMIT STAFF TO PROVIDE THIS
02:23:46PM EXCEPTION.
02:23:47PM >> CORRECT.
02:23:47PM YOUR STAFF DOES NOT HAVE THAT AVAILABLE.
02:23:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS THE TECHNICAL OF THE CODE NOT
02:24:02PM ACCEPTING IT.
02:24:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE ELSE?
02:24:04PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:24:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE MORE QUESTION.
02:24:06PM THIS IS A COMMERCIAL SPACE?
02:24:07PM >> YES.
02:24:08PM >> IT LOOKS THAT WAY.
02:24:09PM JUST WANTED TO SAY.
02:24:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE.
02:24:12PM PUBLIC COMMENT.
02:24:13PM ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
02:24:16PM I SEE NO ONE.
02:24:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CITY STAFF, YOU CONQUER, JUST A TECHNICAL
02:24:24PM ISSUE OUT OF YOUR HANDS AND IT HAS NEGLIGIBLE IMPACT?
02:24:29PM >> YES, COUNCILMAN, AS STATED S.W.F.W.M.D. HAVE APPROVED THESE
02:24:32PM IMPACTS AND A LARGE GRADE TO FOUR FEET, IT IS DOES NOT FUNCTION
02:24:38PM AS A WETLAND BUFFER BECAUSE A SOLID WALL SEPARATING THE TWO
02:24:43PM ENTITIES.
02:24:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, YES, MA'AM.
02:24:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME THAT WHEN WE REDO
02:24:51PM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WE WILL ADD THAT TO THE SEAWALL
02:24:56PM DEFINITION.
02:24:56PM SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO.
02:25:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MOLLOY, DO YOU NEED REBUTTAL?
02:25:05PM >> I DON'T THINK I NEED ANY.
02:25:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
02:25:08PM CLENDENIN.
02:25:08PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:25:10PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:25:11PM OPPOSED.
02:25:11PM ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?
02:25:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL GUESS I WILL DO THAT.
02:25:24PM I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE DENIAL BECAUSE THE
02:25:27PM PETITIONER PROVIDED SUBSTANTIAL AND COMPETENT EVIDENCE TO
02:25:30PM MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE 27-06-E-5 AND
02:25:35PM REDUCE THE WETLAND SETBACKS TO ZERO FEET FOR THE FOLLOWING
02:25:39PM REASON.
02:25:39PM AS HEARD IN TESTIMONY FROM BOTH THE APPLICANT AND STAFF,
02:25:42PM THAT THIS HAS PRACTICAL NEGLIGIBLE IMPACT ON THE PROPERTY.
02:25:49PM THE WETLAND IS BEING PRESERVED AND TECHNICAL IN OUR CODE.
02:25:54PM >> IT IS APPROVED BY THE EPC AND S.W.F.W.M.D. AND A BUSINESS
02:26:05PM AND NOT A RESIDENCE.
02:26:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN
02:26:08PM HURTAK.
02:26:08PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:26:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:26:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
02:26:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
02:26:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:26:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:26:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:26:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:26:25PM THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS NOW.
02:26:27PM ITEM 70, WE TOOK CARE OF IT.
02:26:30PM 71, 7, 73, AND 74, IN SPEAKING WITH OUR BUDGET ANALYST
02:26:36PM YESTERDAY.
02:26:36PM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS GOING TO BE A CONTINUANCE ON THESE
02:26:39PM ITEMS.
02:26:40PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:26:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW THAT IS NECESSARILY A CONTINUANCE,
02:26:46PM BUT I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE THE FIRST ONE IS CHANGING
02:26:58PM THE REQUIREMENT FROM $100,000 TO $200,000.
02:27:03PM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS.
02:27:05PM HOW MANY ITEMS IS THAT.
02:27:08PM IS THAT 100 ITEMS A YEAR.
02:27:10PM IS THAT 20 ITEMS A YEAR?
02:27:15PM WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THAT.
02:27:17PM I GET THE REPORTS FOR OVER RATHER FOR UNDER $100,000 AND
02:27:24PM THEY ARE INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO READ.
02:27:26PM MR. HEBERLIEN, I WILL BORROW YOU FOR A SECOND.
02:27:31PM CAN YOU GO PUT THIS UP ON THE ELMO FOR ME THIS IS HOW WE
02:27:59PM RECEIVE IT IN AN E-MAIL, IN-BOX IN A CONNECTION.
02:28:02PM YOU CAN'T SEE THE DOLLAR SIGNS, THE NUMBERS.
02:28:05PM SO AT THE VERY LEAST, THIS NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED IN TERMS OF
02:28:10PM DELIVERY FOR US.
02:28:12PM IF THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO GO UP.
02:28:15PM NOW YOU CAN MOVE IT BACK TO NORMAL WAY OF READING.
02:28:22PM THIS IS DIFFICULT TO READ IT HAS DEPARTMENTS BUT NOT
02:28:30PM ORGANIZED BY DEPARTMENTS.
02:28:31PM NOT ALL THE FLEET AND SOLID WASTE ITEMS ARE TOGETHER.
02:28:34PM I THINK BEFORE WE CAN APPROVE THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT
02:28:37PM WE CAN TO DO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS CLEAR AND RIGHT NOW WE
02:28:44PM ONLY GET THIS QUARTERLY AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS EVERY
02:28:50PM OTHER MONTH.
02:28:55PM THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS THE NUMBER OF ITEMS GOING TO BE TAKEN
02:29:00PM AWAY.
02:29:00PM I AM NOT OPPOSED TO IT BUT CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE
02:29:04PM DIFFERENCE IS.
02:29:05PM I KNOW TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON WORKED ON 37 QUITE A BIT.
02:29:13PM BUT MY INTEREST IN 71 AND 27, THE DIFFICULTY OF SEEING ITEMS
02:29:18PM AND KNOWING HOW MANY ITEMS WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE
02:29:20PM IMPACTED COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN WAS FIRST AND THEN COUNCILMAN
02:29:27PM CARLSON.
02:29:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THESE ARE TWO VERY INTERESTING ONCE
02:29:30PM BECAUSE I WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE IDEA I AM BURNT ON THE THING
02:29:40PM THAT CAME AND BIT US IN THE BUTT THE ONE TIME.
02:29:43PM SO I AM A LITTLE -- BURN ME ONCE SCENARIO.
02:29:46PM SO I AM REALLY -- I DON'T KNOW IF I AM COMFORTABLE OR IF I
02:29:50PM HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE THIS BIG LEAP OF FAITH.
02:29:53PM EVEN IF WE ARE CURSORY PASSING THROUGH THESE THINGS.
02:30:01PM HAVING THE EXTRA SET OF EYES DOESN'T HURT.
02:30:04PM AND DON'T KNOW THIS IS SLOWING DOWN THE PROCESS OR HEARD
02:30:09PM ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL THAT THIS IS IMPEDING THE BUSINESS OF
02:30:12PM THE CITY THAT'S WORTHY TAKING THIS ACTION TODAY.
02:30:16PM INITIALLY I WAS LIKE, GET IT, ROUTINELY PASSING THESE THINGS
02:30:22PM BUT 999,999 KIND OF BURNT ME AND I FEEL THAT HAVING THE
02:30:27PM EXTRA SET OF EYES ON THIS STUFF IS KIND OF A GOOD IDEA AT
02:30:31PM THIS POINT.
02:30:32PM >> COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:30:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SPEAK TO 73 AND 74.
02:30:37PM YOU WANT TO HANDLE 71 AND 72.
02:30:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF 71 AND 72.
02:30:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH STAFF TO COME UP
02:30:44PM WITH AN IDEA OF HOW MANY ITEMS WOULD BE IMPACTED AND WHAT WE
02:30:51PM COULD TO DO MAKE IT CLEAR TO US AND A MORE UPDATED AND
02:30:59PM FREQUENT REPORT THAT WE CAN SEE BEFORE I CAN MAKE MY MIND
02:31:07PM AND MOVE IT TO JANUARY -- YOU WORK THIS AS A WORKSHOP.
02:31:17PM JANUARY 9, ENOUGH TIME FOR THAT?
02:31:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF BENNETT.
02:31:22PM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD AFTERNOON, JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF
02:31:24PM AND GOOD AFTERNOON TO THE PUBLIC.
02:31:26PM DOES COUNCIL WANT ANY FEEDBACK BECAUSE I HAVE A LITTLE BIT
02:31:29PM OF FEEDBACK THAT CAN START THIS AND, OF COURSE, WE ARE HAPPY
02:31:32PM TO WORK WITH COUNCIL.
02:31:33PM CONTINUE THIS TO THE 9th AND HAVE THAT TO THE 9th.
02:31:48PM >> I WANT ONE CLARIFIER.
02:31:50PM ONCE I SAW THESE QUARTERLY REPORTS I ASKED PURCHASING
02:31:55PM ANYTHING THAT SUCH 95,000 HAVE A SEPARATE MEMO IN THE
02:32:01PM BUCKET.
02:32:01PM IN THIS VERSION 200,000 IS THE OLD ONE FROM 25 YEARS AGO.
02:32:11PM THE IDEA WAS TO REPORT EVERYTHING ABOVE 100,000.
02:32:13PM AND IF WE HIT 109,000.
02:32:16PM A WEEK FROM EVERYONE I AM CERTAINLY NOT OPPOSED TO AND NOT
02:32:36PM HAVE THE CONVERSATION OF THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT THIS, I
02:32:40PM THINK, NEEDS.
02:32:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:32:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: REAL FAST.
02:32:47PM THANKS TO CHIEF OF STAFF AND PURCHASING FOR WORKING MARRED
02:32:51PM ON THESE.
02:32:52PM CHIEF OF STAFF, TWO QUESTIONS YOU MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER
02:32:56PM TO, BUT ONE THAT IT COUNTS LIKE THAT, HOW MANY FIRES BETWEEN
02:33:03PM 100 AND 200 AND THE OTHER QUESTION WHEN THE 100,000 WAS
02:33:08PM INITIALLY APPROVED, WHAT IS THE PRESENCE OF THE 100,000.
02:33:11PM IF IT WAS 30 YEARS AGO MAYBE.
02:33:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: A DECENT JUSTIFICATION.
02:33:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUYING CHEMICALS FOR THE WATER PLANT OR
02:33:29PM DISCRETIONARY KIND OF SPENDING.
02:33:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SAID YOU KNEW THE NUMBER.
02:33:37PM >>JOHN BENNETT: QUANTITATIVELY 25% THEIR WORKLOAD RIGHT NOW.
02:33:43PM I DID LOOK AT THAT FROM A PERSONNEL POINT OF VIEW BECAUSE
02:33:47PM OBVIOUSLY WE ARE RUNNING LEAN ON THE SUPPORT SIZE.
02:33:49PM WORTH OF EMPLOYEES TO DO THAT LEVEL AND KEEPING THE
02:33:54PM TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE SYSTEM.
02:33:57PM THAT IS WHY THAT NUMBER WAS SELECTED.
02:33:58PM KIND OF A MODERNIZATION.
02:34:00PM BUT HOW TO UNPACK THAT IN A BIMONTHLY REPORT AND QUAA A
02:34:06PM QUARTERLY REPORT ALIGNING THE HIS UNITS.
02:34:08PM ALL OF THAT IS CAPABLE, OF COURSE.
02:34:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOUR MIC WAS ON.
02:34:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY MIC WAS NOT ON.
02:34:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
02:34:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT BUT I
02:34:22PM WANT A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION THAT WE CAN PROBABLY SPEND
02:34:24PM MORE TIME ON OFF-LINE.
02:34:26PM AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE PEN FISH SHALL TO KNOW -- BENEFICIAL
02:34:35PM TO KNOW -- I WILL TALK TO YOU OFF LINE.
02:34:37PM I MOVE THAT WE MOVE ITEM 71 AND 27.
02:34:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO JANUARY 9?
02:34:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JANUARY 9 DURING STAFF REPORTS.
02:34:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:34:47PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:34:48PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:34:50PM OPPOSED?
02:34:51PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:34:52PM YOU WANTED TO DISCUSS 73 AND 74.
02:34:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: 73 AND 74 -- 73 IS A THREE-BED MINIMUM AND
02:35:00PM 74 IS THAT IF WE ARE DOING PIGGYBACKING WHICH WE TALKED
02:35:04PM ABOUT BEFORE THAT I CAN EXPLAIN.
02:35:07PM IF WE ARE DOING PIGGYBACKING THREE OR AT LEAST MORE THAN ONE
02:35:12PM PIGGYBACKING CONTRACT.
02:35:13PM ALL THAT DOES PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL LAYER TO MAKE SURE WE
02:35:16PM ARE GETTING THE BEST PRICE.
02:35:18PM WE SPENT MONDAYS ON THIS AND PURCHASE DID AN ANALYSIS OF
02:35:26PM OTHER GOVERNMENTS, AND I DID MY OWN ANALYSIS OF OTHER
02:35:29PM GOVERNMENTS AND THE CHIEF OF STAFF WORKED WITH US.
02:35:31PM I WOULD DO IT LESS THAN $5 MILLION, BUT THE CITY HAS NEVER
02:35:35PM DONE THIS BEFORE.
02:35:36PM AND BASED ON THE WORKLOAD AND EVERYTHING, IT'S -- I THINK IT
02:35:41PM IS BETTER TO START AT 5 MILLION AND GO AHEAD AND GET THIS
02:35:44PM APPROVED SINCE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING IT MORE THAN A YEAR AND
02:35:47PM LET IT RUN FOR A YEAR OR SOMETHING AND SEE HOW IT WORKS.
02:35:52PM IF IT IS A HUGE BURDEN, WE WILL HAVE STAFF TELL US.
02:35:57PM IF IT HAS BETTER PRICES, THEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT
02:36:00PM IT AS WELL.
02:36:01PM I THINK CHIEF OF STAFF AND PURCHASING, I THANK THEM FOR
02:36:05PM PUTTING SO MUCH TIME IN THESE TWO AND BENCHMARKING THEM.
02:36:07PM I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE BOTH OF THOSE.
02:36:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: READ ITEM NUMBER 37.
02:36:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: FILE NUMBER E 2024-8-CH 2, ORDINANCE FOR
02:36:19PM FIRST READING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CHAPTER 2,
02:36:23PM ARTICLE V, DIVISION 3, PURCHASES AND BY ENACTING 286,
02:36:31PM THREE-BID REQUIREMENT FOR EQUIREMENTS FOR OTHER
02:36:35PM PURCHASES EXCEEDING $5 MILLION.
02:36:37PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:36:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
02:36:47PM >> IS THIS THE BEST PRACTICE FOR MOST CITIES.
02:36:53PM ARE YOU --
02:36:56PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THE THRESHOLD.
02:36:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: $5 MILLION, THE BIDS.
02:37:00PM YEAH.
02:37:00PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THE WAY IT WAS -- AGAIN, COUNCIL, THE CITY
02:37:08PM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND PURCHASING ALL WORKED TOGETHER TO GET
02:37:12PM INTO A GOOD OPERATIONAL REALM.
02:37:14PM TRUTHFULLY I WAS HOPING TO DO THAT ON THE FIRST TWO BECAUSE
02:37:17PM I THOUGHT WE COULD SMOOTH IT OUT.
02:37:19PM BUT IF COUNCIL'S PLEASURE TO GO THROUGH THE 9th, WE WILL
02:37:22PM WORK ON THAT OFF-LINE.
02:37:24PM BECAUSE WE CAN ALWAYS WALKING IS BACK OR BETTER REPORTING AS
02:37:28PM WELL.
02:37:28PM THEIR WORKLOAD.
02:37:29PM I WANT TO SAY THIS TO -- IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, 46%
02:37:32PM INCREASE IN INVITATION TO BIDS.
02:37:35PM AND THAT IS DUE TO COUNCIL AND STAFF WORKING TOGETHER WITH
02:37:40PM HIGHER ACCOUNTABILITY.
02:37:41PM 46% IN FIVE YEARS AND THE SAME SIZE STAFF.
02:37:46PM 13% FOR PROPOSALS.
02:37:49PM 16% -- SORRY, 61% IN RESOLUTIONS AND DOING THAT ON THE BACKS
02:37:54PM OF JUST TWO MORE PURCHASING STAFF.
02:37:56PM SO IT IS GETTING HEAVY.
02:37:57PM WE OUGHT TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE EFFICIENCY MEETS THE
02:38:01PM OPPORTUNITY, ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY.
02:38:04PM TO ANSWER YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION, WE FELT LIKE WE WORKED
02:38:07PM THROUGH ALL OF THIS FOR THE SWEET SPOT OF ALL FOUR
02:38:13PM ORDINANCES.
02:38:13PM I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT THESE TWO AND ADJUSTMENTS AS NEEDED.
02:38:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:38:21PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:38:22PM ITEM 74.
02:38:24PM >>CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION NOVEMBER 22, 2024, IN
02:38:30PM CITY COUNCIL, 315 KENNEDY BLVD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33062.
02:38:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER 2024-8-CH
02:38:42PM 2, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING AMENDING CHAPTER 2
02:38:45PM ALREADY ARTICLE, 5, DIVISION 3, PURCHASES AND CONTRACTS BY
02:38:52PM ENACTING 2-287 PURCHASES THROUGH USE OF OTHER COOPERATIVE
02:38:56PM CONTRACTS PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OF ORDINANCES
02:39:00PM IN CONFLICT THEREWITH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING
02:39:03PM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:39:04PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:39:05PM OPPOSED.
02:39:06PM >>CLERK: MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY NOVEMBER 2, 2024 IN CITY
02:39:14PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, 33602.
02:39:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: I FORGOT TO THANK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND
02:39:22PM EVERYBODY ELSE WHO HELPED WITH THESE.
02:39:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF, YOU REQUESTED THAT ITEM 41 BE
02:39:28PM BROUGHT UP UNDER STAFF REPORTS?
02:39:29PM >>JOHN BENNETT: I DID.
02:39:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANTON GO WITH 41.
02:39:33PM >> GO AHEAD, 41.
02:39:41PM >> STAFF ASKED FOR 41 TO BE PULLED INTO JUST PRIOR TO STAFF
02:39:44PM REPORTS.
02:39:45PM AND WE KNOW AUDITS COME IN RECEIVE AND FILE AND APPRECIATE
02:39:55PM COUNCIL FOR MOVING THAT INTO THE SPACE.
02:39:56PM AND, OF COURSE, CHRISTINE GLOVER'S AUDIT DEPARTMENT WORKED
02:40:00PM CLOSELY WITH MY OFFICE TO CHANNEL THE AUDITS TO THE MAYOR
02:40:03PM AND, OF COURSE, TO CITY COUNCIL.
02:40:04PM I WILL STAY THAT DEANNA OUR DIRECTOR OF PURCHASE HAD
02:40:09PM ACTUALLY MADE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS AUDIT AND THE
02:40:15PM AUDIT PLAN TO CHRISTINE GLOVER'S OFFICE.
02:40:18PM AND IT WAS ACCOMPLISHED IN FY '24.
02:40:20PM THE REASON IT IS IMPORTANT, BECAUSE THE JOCK HAS BEEN AN
02:40:24PM INSTRUMENT OF THE COUNCIL OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
02:40:27PM IT HAS BEEN AN AMAZING TOOL WHAT I CALL CAPITAL MAINTENANCE
02:40:31PM OPPOSED TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
02:40:32PM A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS THAT RELY ON THE JOB ORDER CONTRACTING
02:40:36PM WITH FIX.
02:40:43PM AND THE ONE THING THAT I DID HERE AND THERE IS A LOT OF
02:40:51PM SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE PRIME IN THESE PROGRAMS AND
02:40:55PM ARE ENERGIZING A LOT OF THE MINORITY BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT
02:40:58PM WHICH IS FANTASTIC.
02:40:59PM I WILL SAY THAT THE LEADERSHIP SINCE THIS PROGRAM HAS
02:41:02PM STARTED HAS TURNED OVER.
02:41:04PM DEANNA HAS NOW BECOME THE DIRECTOR.
02:41:06PM BERTHA MITCHELL IS HERE THAT IS MANAGING THE EQUAL BUSINESS
02:41:10PM OPPORTUNITY AND MINORITY BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT OFFICE.
02:41:12PM AND SO PART OF DISSECTING THIS AUDIT WHICH WAS REQUESTED
02:41:20PM FOR FY 24 REVEALED SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE KIND OF NEW AND
02:41:25PM WANTED THEM FORMALIZE.
02:41:26PM BIGGEST ONE SEGREGATION OF DUTIES, THE JOB SYSTEM WAS UNIQUE
02:41:34PM SYSTEM INSIDE PURCHASING AND NOT GOOD TO HAVE THE FIREWALL
02:41:37PM ON BOTH SIDES.
02:41:38PM WE WANTED TO MOVE THAT OVER.
02:41:39PM LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT.
02:41:42PM ADRI COLINA IS TAKING OVER THE J.O.C. FOR USER DEPARTMENTS
02:41:47PM WHETHER THE CONVENTION CENTER, PARKS AND RECREATION WITH ALL
02:41:50PM THE FACILITIES WE HAVE.
02:41:51PM J.O.C. IS MOST PERTINENT BEING USED AS THE YOUR DEPARTMENT
02:41:56PM INSIDE LAM.
02:41:58PM PURCHASING CAN FOCUS ON THE CONTRACT.
02:42:00PM LAM CAN FOCUS ON THE DELIVERABLES.
02:42:05PM THE BIGGEST THING.
02:42:07PM THE NEXT BIGGEST THING THE ACCURACY OF THE AWARDS OF THE
02:42:10PM OPPORTUNITY IS ACTUALLY GETTING IN THE HANDS OF THE
02:42:13PM SUBCONTRACTOR OF THE MINORITY AND SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS.
02:42:19PM SO THAT WAS THE SECOND THING.
02:42:21PM POSTING THOSE NUMBER MAKING SURE THE PUBLIC SEES THE
02:42:28PM TRANSPARENCY IS COMING THROUGH WITH THIS AUDIT.
02:42:30PM I CAN TELL YOU WITH TWO-THIRDS OF THE FIRMS IN THE INITIAL
02:42:33PM BEING PRIME MINORITY BUSINESS AND SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS AND
02:42:37PM 50% MORE IN THE NEXT ROUND THAT YOU APPROVE IS REALLY MAKING
02:42:40PM A DIFFERENCE FOR THE CITY MOVING FORWARD SO WHAT I AM SAYING
02:42:47PM IS I APPRECIATE COUNCIL FOR GIVING THE JOB ORDER CONTRACTING
02:42:50PM PROGRAM.
02:42:51PM WE ARE HONORED TO TAKE THIS AUDIT AND DO THE CONTINUOUS
02:42:53PM IMPROVEMENT BEHIND IT.
02:42:55PM I JUST HAD A TWO-PAGE DIRECTIVE THAT IS GOING OUT THAT GOES
02:43:00PM OUT TO ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS WITH LOGISTIC ASSET
02:43:04PM MANAGEMENT PURCHASING IN THE EBO OFFICE AND THIS IS HOW WE
02:43:08PM ARE GOING TO OPERATE FORWARD.
02:43:10PM ONE TIME WE PULLED THIS AUDIT, TALK TO COUNCIL AND THE
02:43:14PM PUBLIC AND SAYING AN AMAZING TOOL AND DOING A GREAT JOB FOR
02:43:17PM CAPITAL MAINTENANCE BUT WE HAD PROGRESSIVE HOUSEKEEPING TO
02:43:23PM DO AFTER THE AUDIT CAME OUT.
02:43:25PM WE WANT TO EMBED THESE J.O.C. REPORTS FROM OTHER REPORTS
02:43:30PM FROM PURCHASING TO INCREASE TRANSPARENCY.
02:43:33PM EVEN THOUGH YOU APPROVED IT AND USING IT YOU ARE NOT SEEING
02:43:38PM THE DATA UNTIL IT COMES OUT LIKE THIS.
02:43:41PM ADRI IS ON LINE.
02:43:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT DOES THAT PROGRAM LOOK LIKE FOR YOU?
02:43:55PM >>JOHN BENNETT: FOR THE J.O.C. PROGRAM?
02:43:57PM EVERY TIME IT IS UTILIZED AND A SCOPE OF SERVICE BEEN THE
02:44:01PM PROING.
02:44:01PM PICK A NUMBER.
02:44:02PM THE CONVENTION CENTER NEEDED SOMETHING TO HIT THE 100,000.
02:44:05PM WE PUT THAT MUCH LIKE WE ARE REPORTING NOW QUARTERLY INTO
02:44:08PM THAT SAME REPORT.
02:44:10PM SO YOU COULD SEE HOW THE JOCK IS BEING USED AS IT RUNS.
02:44:15PM A SECOND CATEGORY.
02:44:17PM >> JUST DOUBLE CHECKING TO SEE.
02:44:20PM I THINK IF WE WENT TO THE EVERY -- WITH THE EVERY OTHER
02:44:23PM MONTH REPORT TO JUST GET THAT SORT OF INFORMATION, I THINK
02:44:26PM THAT WILL KEEP US RIGHT ON TRACK.
02:44:28PM AND AGAIN DURING OUR CONVERSATIONS, I WOULD LOVE TO ROLL
02:44:32PM THAT INTO IT AS WELL.
02:44:33PM WHEN WE ARE TALKING OF THE REPORTING.
02:44:35PM THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.
02:44:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MIRANDA.
02:44:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK I VOTED FOR THE J.O.C. PROGRAM
02:44:50PM ONE IN 100 YEARS.
02:44:52PM I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT IS GOING ON.
02:44:56PM I AM NOT SAYING WE ARE NOT.
02:44:57PM I DON'T KNOW.
02:44:58PM WHEN J.O.C. FIRST STARTED.
02:45:01PM THE REAL SMALL JOBS.
02:45:03PM A SIDEWALK.
02:45:04PM SOMETHING FELL OUT OF A CAR.
02:45:05PM TEN PIECES OF SO GOING SOMEWHERE.
02:45:08PM NOW THE SUBCONTRACTOR FOR THE CITY, FROM WHAT I AM HEARING.
02:45:13PM DO WE REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE PAYING THE SUBS?
02:45:18PM DO WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT?
02:45:20PM THE OTHER THING IS THE RENT ON THE PROBLEM.
02:45:22PM I CAN'T GET THAT IN MY HEAD.
02:45:23PM THAT'S WHERE I COME FROM BUT WHY ST. THEY ARE GETTING FREE
02:45:28PM RENT OR WERE GETTING FREE RENT.
02:45:30PM I DON'T KNOW IN THE PAST.
02:45:32PM BUT IN THE PAST, I THINK THAT -- I THINK THIS ADMINISTRATION
02:45:36PM POSSIBLY -- I HAVE HAD SO MANY IMAGES IN MY HEAD TODAY AND I
02:45:41PM DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY DID.
02:45:42PM DID THE AUDIT AND HAD WEIGHTS OF SCALE TO THE MINORITY
02:45:45PM PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING FOR THEM DIRECTLY.
02:45:47PM BUT THAT'S WHAT I DON'T KNOW.
02:45:49PM >>JOHN BENNETT: NO, I UNDERSTAND.
02:45:52PM THOSE ARE ALL GREAT QUESTIONS.
02:45:53PM UNLIKE THE MAN CON PARTS CONTRACT, THERE IS NO RESIDENTIAL
02:45:57PM SIDE ON THE CITY.
02:45:58PM SO NO RENT IN THE ADMINISTRATION OF THIS PROGRAM.
02:46:01PM THERE IS A PARENT CONSULTANT THAT WORKS BETWEEN THE PRIME,
02:46:06PM OF COURSE, AND, AGAIN, CREDIT TO BERTHA MITCHELL AND DEANNA
02:46:10PM FOR MAKING SURE THAT THOSE SUBS ARE GETTING PAID THROUGH THE
02:46:13PM FORMULA.
02:46:14PM AND NOW THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A TECHNOLOGY PLATFORM THAT IS
02:46:17PM GOING TO TRACK ALL OF THAT AND WILL BE PART OF THE REPORT
02:46:19PM AND PART OF THE PUBLIC FACING NUMBERS.
02:46:21PM >> AGAIN, I AM NOT TRYING TO PUT OVERBURDEN SOME ON YOUR
02:46:26PM DIVISION OF PURCHASING AND SO FORTH, BUT I THINK YOU
02:46:28PM ANSWERED IT AND THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF THAT NOW.
02:46:31PM >>JOHN BENNETT: YES, SIR.
02:46:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF NOTHING ELSE?
02:46:36PM ASK FOR A MOTION.
02:46:37PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S COMMITTEE.
02:46:38PM MOVE ITEM 41.
02:46:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE.
02:46:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
02:46:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:46:43PM OPPOSED.
02:46:44PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
02:46:45PM NEXT UP WE WILL BRING UP MR. ROGERO.
02:46:48PM AS PART OF ADMINISTRATION UPDATE GOOD AFTERNOON.
02:46:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID YOU JUST FLY IN EARLIER TODAY?
02:47:00PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DID NOT.
02:47:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU LOOK LIKE YOU ARE TIRED?
02:47:06PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: FROM FLAPPING MY WINGS.
02:47:08PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
02:47:10PM CONGRATULATIONS, COUNCIL MIRANDA.
02:47:12PM CONGRATULATIONS, DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL.
02:47:17PM THANK YOU FOR LITTLE LOWING ME TIME UNDER THE -- PARDON ME
02:47:23PM -- ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
02:47:26PM AS WE GO THROUGH THE AFTERMATH OF THE STORM, I HAVE A NICE
02:47:29PM PRIVILEGE TO BRING YOU VERY, VERY GOOD INFORMATION WHEN IT
02:47:31PM COMES TO THE CITY'S FINANCES.
02:47:33PM WE HAVE RECENTLY HAD A NUMBER OF POSITIVE CREDIT RATING
02:47:36PM ACTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY WALK YOU AND THE PUBLIC
02:47:40PM THROUGH.
02:47:40PM NO OFFICIAL PRESENTATION.
02:47:42PM THIS IS PRETTY RECENT WITH THE STORM AND EVERYTHING, AND I
02:47:46PM DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THE MEDIA OR WHOMEVER WATCHING OUT
02:47:50PM THERE DID NOT GET AHEAD OF CITY COUNCIL.
02:47:52PM SO IF I CAN HAVE THE ELMO UP, PLEASE.
02:47:54PM UNTIL VERY RECENTLY AS COUNCIL KNOWS, THAT WAS OUR OVERALL
02:48:10PM CREDIT PICTURE WHERE THE LARGEST CREDIT AGENCIES.
02:48:13PM MOODY, FITCH AND STANDARD & POOR'S.
02:48:16PM YOU HAVE SEEN THIS.
02:48:17PM THE PUBLIC HAS SEEN THIS.
02:48:19PM IT IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE IT REMAINS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE EVEN
02:48:26PM THOUGH IT IS ABOUT TO CHANGE.
02:48:27PM TWO CREDIT READING UPGRADES.
02:48:30PM YOU SEE IN GREEN.
02:48:31PM AND ADDITIONAL HIGHER CREDIT RATING ON THE STORMWATER BONDS
02:48:36PM NOT TOO FAR AGO.
02:48:38PM SECOND HIGHEST YOU CAN GET, AA-PLUS.
02:48:41PM ON THE VERY TOP THIS, WE TALKED OF THE ICR, THE ISSUER
02:48:47PM CREDIT RATING, THE CITY'S VERSION OF THE FICO.
02:48:51PM VERY, VERY GOOD.
02:48:52PM TWO SECOND HIGHEST AND ON THE RIGHT THE HIGHEST WE GET
02:48:56PM WITH AAA.
02:48:57PM BUT AS WE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST, THE RATING AGENCIES SIMPLY
02:49:00PM SAID IT AND FORGET IT.
02:49:02PM OUR CREDIT RATINGS WERE PLACED FOR REVIEW BY TWO OF THE
02:49:07PM LARGEST, THE MOODY'S AND FITCH ORGANIZATIONS.
02:49:09PM GIVEN SOME OF THE CHANGES IN METHODOLOGY THAT THEY ARE
02:49:14PM INCORPORATING INTO THEIR RATINGS.
02:49:15PM AND WE WERE CANDIDATES FOR UPGRADE, AND I AM PLEASED TO SAY
02:49:19PM THAT WE ARE NOW MORE THAN CANDIDATES FOR UPGRADE.
02:49:23PM AS A REMINDER, OF COURSE, THEY COME IN.
02:49:26PM THEY TAKE A VERY BROAD AND DEEP VIEW OF THE CITY'S FINANCES
02:49:32PM BUT NOT JUST OUR FINANCES.
02:49:33PM OUR NEXT ON CONDITIONS.
02:49:35PM OUR PLANNED FUTURE GROWTH.
02:49:37PM OUR PLANNED FINANCING.
02:49:39PM THINGS LIKE THAT.
02:49:40PM OUR CIP FINANCIAL REPORTS.
02:49:43PM VERY, VERY THOROUGH.
02:49:44PM CAME AND THEY SURVEILLED AND IT HAS BEEN VERY POSITIVE.
02:49:50PM I WILL START WITH MOODY'S.
02:49:51PM YOU SEE AFTER THE MOODY'S SURVEILLANCE, THEY GAVE US TWO
02:49:57PM UPGRADES.
02:49:57PM CAN YOU SEE IT OKAY WITH THE CLOSED CAPTIONING?
02:50:00PM YOU GET TWO UPGRADES ON THE UTILITIES TAX AND SALES TAX
02:50:04PM REVENUE BONDS TO THE SECOND HIGHEST LEVEL THAT YOU CAN
02:50:07PM RECEIVE.
02:50:07PM THAT IS AA-1.
02:50:10PM MOREOVER, THEY DID NOT JUST BUMP US UP ONE, THEY BUMPED US
02:50:15PM UP TWO.
02:50:16PM ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING.
02:50:18PM I DON'T KNOW IF I WILL TAKE CREDIT FOR FOUR -- BUT AT LEAST
02:50:24PM TWO, VERY, VERY GOOD.
02:50:25PM SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THESE BONDS FUNDS THAT COUNCIL IS
02:50:29PM AWARE OF FIRE STATION, STORMWATER PROJECTS, JULIAN B. LANE,
02:50:36PM CASS STREET AND BROREIN STREET BRIDGES.
02:50:39PM SO VERY, VERY GOOD NEWS FOR TWO OF OUR RATINGS.
02:50:41PM BUT IT DOESN'T END THERE.
02:50:49PM VERY, VERY NICE TO SHARE THIS POSITIVE NEWS WITH YOU.
02:50:57PM FITCH CAME IN AND THE UPGRADES IN GREEN.
02:51:00PM STARTING AT THE BOTTOM.
02:51:02PM THEY ALSO UPGRADED OUR UTILITY TAX REVENUE BONDS AND THEY
02:51:07PM WANT TO STEP FURTHER THAN MOODY'S AN TOOK IT OVER TO AAA,
02:51:12PM THE BEST YOU CAN GET.
02:51:13PM THIS NON-AD VALOREM REVENUE BOND, AGAIN, THE BEST YOU CAN
02:51:18PM GET.
02:51:18PM AAA.
02:51:19PM AS COUNCIL KNOWS, OUR NON-AD VALOREM BONDS.
02:51:23PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:51:25PM FUND OR ARE ANTICIPATED TO FUND MANY, MANY THINGS.
02:51:27PM REC CENTERS, OLD CITY HALL RENOVATIONS, PUBLIC TRAINING
02:51:32PM FACILITIES, THE MOBILITY PORTION OF OUR PIPES PROGRAM.
02:51:35PM SO MANY, MANY THINGS RELIABILITY AND ANTICIPATED TO BE
02:51:41PM RELIGHT ON OUR NON-AD VALOREM BONDS AN OUTSTANDING RATING.
02:51:45PM CHERRY ON TOP, AT THE TOP, AGAIN, OUR FICO SCORE.
02:51:50PM THE BEST A LOCALITY CAN OBTAIN.
02:51:53PM AAA RATINGS.
02:51:55PM WE NOW HAVE TWO OF THE HIGHEST RATINGS.
02:52:03PM THE VERY HIGHEST RATINGS THAT YOU CAN GET AND ONE NOTCH
02:52:07PM BELOW THE HIGHEST RATING FOR THE CITY'S FIC FICO SCORE.
02:52:14PM THIS IS WHAT YOUR RATINGS, SEVEN CREDIT UPGRADES IN FIVE
02:52:19PM YEARS.
02:52:19PM MY CONGRATULATIONS, COUNCIL.
02:52:21PM MY COMPLIMENTS AND MY THANKS FOR YOUR, THE MAYOR'S, OUR
02:52:26PM COMMITMENT TO THE CONSERVATIVE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT THAT WE
02:52:29PM KEPT PACE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
02:52:33PM SO THANK YOU.
02:52:34PM GENUINELY.
02:52:36PM I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK A FEW OTHERS -- HE WON'T LIKE IT
02:52:40PM BUT I WILL SAY IT ANYWAY, THE CHIEF OF STAFF FOR HIS
02:52:44PM GUIDANCE.
02:52:44PM OUR ADMINISTRATORS, DIRECTORS, THE DEPARTMENTS.
02:52:47PM THE DEPARTMENTS ARE NOT RUNNING TIP TOP.
02:52:50PM THESE INTERNATIONAL, UNBIASED CREDIT AGENCY, THEY ARE GOING
02:52:55PM TO CATCH THAT.
02:52:55PM OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS HELPING US STEER THE COURSE.
02:52:58PM BOND COUNSEL, DISCLOSURE COUNSEL, THERE IS ANY NUMBER OF
02:53:03PM PEOPLE TO THANK.
02:53:04PM BUT TWO PEOPLE I SPECIFICALLY WANT TO THANK, MR. PERRY AND
02:53:08PM MR. -- CAN YOU COME UP HERE PLEASE.
02:53:10PM LAST ON THE LIST AND FIRST ON MY HEART, THE REVENUE AND
02:53:13PM FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
02:53:14PM I SAID THIS BEFORE, I WILL SAY THIS AGAIN, I SIMPLY HAVE THE
02:53:18PM PRIVILEGE TO COME UP AND SPEAK FOR THAT DEPARTMENT.
02:53:21PM AND THESE TWO PEOPLE BEHIND ME ARE ABSOLUTELY INSTRUMENTAL
02:53:26PM TO OUR FINANCIAL SUCCESS.
02:53:27PM WHETHER IT IS LEE HUFFSTEDLER OUR CHIEF ACCOUNTANT, CRAFTED
02:53:36PM US THROUGH AND GUIDING US THROUGH AN EXTERNAL AUDIT BY AN
02:53:40PM INDEPENDENT CPA MAKING SURE WE ARE DOING NOW WHAT WE ARE
02:53:44PM SUPPOSED TO DO AND WHAT WE DID IN A RETROSPECT FROM A
02:53:48PM PROFESSIONAL PERSPECTIVE.
02:53:48PM AND MIKE PERRY OUR BUDGET OFFICER.
02:53:51PM THE BUDGET, THE C.I.P. THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON.
02:53:55PM HE HELPS CRAFT THE FUTURE OF THE CITY FROM A FINANCIAL
02:53:59PM PERSPECTIVE.
02:53:59PM QUITE SIMPLY, WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE THEM.
02:54:02PM I AM LUCKY TO HAVE THEM.
02:54:04PM CONGRATULATIONS AND MY THANKS.
02:54:05PM GREAT NEWS FOR THE CITY.
02:54:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:54:09PM YOU ARE RIGHT.
02:54:10PM YOU THANKED -- YOU HAVE A GREAT TEAM THERE.
02:54:14PM AND FEW THINGS AS BEAUTIFUL AS THESE GREAT CREDIT RATINGS
02:54:17PM BECAUSE IT SAVES US A LOT OF MONEY AND SAVES TAXPAYERS A LOT
02:54:21PM OF MONEY.
02:54:21PM THE BETTER THE CREDIT RATING THE BETTER THE INTEREST RATE
02:54:25PM AND THE BETTER WE ARE -- AS WE KEEP MOVING FORWARD BUT AT A
02:54:29PM LOWER COST.
02:54:29PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
02:54:31PM I SAW -- YOU WANT TO GO FIRST OR MIRANDA?
02:54:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: HE CAN GO FIRST.
02:54:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MIRANDA, CARLSON AND HENDERSON.
02:54:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY THANKS TO EVERYONE IN YOUR
02:54:44PM DEPARTMENT AND EVERYONE WHO WORKED SO DILIGENTLY IN THE
02:54:46PM CITY.
02:54:47PM THE LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT, THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND
02:54:49PM EVERYONE ELSE, AND ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR MAKING SURE
02:54:51PM THAT THIS CREDIT UNION STAYS WAY ABOVE THE NORM.
02:54:54PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR.
02:54:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:54:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WASHINGTON CALLING YOU.
02:55:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, COUPLE OF THINGS.
02:55:03PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
02:55:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE, THANKS TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND THE
02:55:06PM DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT SUFFER NOT GETTING ALL THE MONEY THEY
02:55:09PM NEED.
02:55:09PM THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN -- ALL THE PEOPLE WHO
02:55:13PM ENABLE US, INCLUDING ALL OF THE FOLKS UP HERE WHO ENABLE US
02:55:17PM TO KEEP OUR RESERVES HIGH BECAUSE WITHOUT THAT, THIS WILL
02:55:19PM ALL GO AWAY.
02:55:23PM JUST -- YOU CAN SEND US THE REPORTS IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY.
02:55:25PM BUT COULD YOU JUST TELL US REAL SHORT TOP LINE, WAS THERE --
02:55:30PM WHAT WAS THEIR REASONING FOR GOING UP?
02:55:32PM AND NUMBER TWO, WAS THERE ANY GUIDANCE OR SUGGESTIONS FOR
02:55:34PM THE FUTURE?
02:55:35PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NO, THANK YOU.
02:55:36PM AND I AM GOING FROM MEMORY, BUT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY SEND YOU
02:55:39PM THE REPORTS.
02:55:40PM THE CREDIT RATING AGENCIES HAVE ISSUED THEIR PRESS RELEASES
02:55:44PM AS IS THE PRO COOL, BUT PROBABLY ONLY BEING VIEWED IN THE
02:55:47PM FINANCIAL SECTORS AND ANOTHER REASON WE WANTED TO GET IN
02:55:51PM HERE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AHEAD OF THE STORM SO YOU DIDN'T
02:55:56PM HEAR ABOUT THIS SOME PLACE ELSE.
02:55:58PM AND A CREDIT TO YOU.
02:55:59PM THE ISSUE THE CREDIT RATING, FOR INSTANCE.
02:56:03PM I WILL TRY NOT TO BE TOO TECHNICAL, BUT IN OTHER PLACES YOU
02:56:06PM HEARD OF COURSE -- WE TALKED OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS,
02:56:10PM RIGHT.
02:56:10PM WHERE WE SAY, HEY, NO MATTER WHAT, EVEN IF IT INCLUDES
02:56:14PM RAISING PROPERTY TAXES, WE ARE GOING TO PAY THIS DEBT, OKAY.
02:56:17PM IN FLORIDA -- NOT IN ALL STATES, BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT,
02:56:21PM ANY LOCALITY HAS TO HAVE A REFERENDUM.
02:56:25PM FOR PROBABLY OBVIOUS REASONS, WE DON'T DO GENERAL
02:56:28PM OBLIGATIONS -- GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS IN THE STATE OF
02:56:32PM FLORIDA, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE CITY HAS NEVER DONE ONE.
02:56:35PM MANY OTHER STATES DO.
02:56:36PM AND FROM A MARKET AND CREDIT RATING PERSPECTIVE AND AN
02:56:39PM INVESTOR PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU ARE GOING TO PLEDGE TO RAISE
02:56:42PM PROPERTY TAXES, YOU MUST BE PRETTY SERIOUS ABOUT YOUR INTENT
02:56:45PM TO PAY THIS DEBT.
02:56:47PM SO IT BECOMES A VERY, VERY SECURED DEBT, VERY GOOD RATINGS.
02:56:51PM VERY LOW INTEREST RATES, ETC.
02:56:53PM RECENTLY, ONE COUNTY C CHANGES IN THE CREDIT AGENCY RATING
02:57:02PM ENVIRONMENT IS -- CAN I GET TO THE ELMO REAL QUICK?
02:57:05PM AND JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU SEE THESE NINE AD VALOREM
02:57:09PM REVENUE BONDS.
02:57:10PM YOU SEE THESE UTILITY REVENUE BONDS.
02:57:12PM REVENUE BONDS.
02:57:14PM REVENUE BONDS.
02:57:15PM ONE OF THE CHANGES IN THESE ENVIRONMENTS.
02:57:20PM IF A LOCALITY CAN DO A COVENANT TO BUDGET TO APPROPRIATE.
02:57:24PM TO PAY THIS DEBT BACK, EVEN NOT FROM PROPERTY TAXES.
02:57:27PM ONE OF THE REASONS WE CALL IT A NON-AD VALOREM BOND.
02:57:30PM WE WANT TO MAKE IT VERY SPECIFIC AND EXPLICIT.
02:57:34PM WE ARE NOT PLEDGING PROPERTY TAXES.
02:57:36PM BUT THE GENERAL PHILOSOPHY HAS TURNED IF WE ARE WILLING TO
02:57:41PM DO A COVENANT TO BUDGET AND APPROPRIATE.
02:57:44PM THAT IS NOT THE WORD THEY USE, THEY DON'T -- AGREEMENT
02:57:47PM OR ASSURANCES.
02:57:48PM IT IS A COVENANT.
02:57:50PM THEY TAKE IT SERIOUSLY LIKE THEY DON'T COME IN AND DO A
02:57:53PM REVIEW, IT IS A SURVEILLANCE.
02:57:55PM VERY, VERY SERIOUS.
02:57:56PM THEY HAVE BEGUN TO THINK, HEY, IF YOU ARE WILLING TO
02:57:59PM COVENANT IT, WE OUGHT TO WEIGHT IT STRONGER THAN IT IS NOW.
02:58:02PM BECAUSE YOU ARE MAKING A COMMITMENT COME HELL AND HIGH
02:58:06PM WATER, YOU WILL PAY THAT DEBT BACK.
02:58:08PM YOU ARE SEEING THAT REFLECTED HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH
02:58:11PM OUR SPECIAL REVENUE BONDS AND LEADS UPWARDS INTO THAT
02:58:19PM OVERALL CREDIT RATING.
02:58:22PM CHANGE IN METHODOLOGY TAKING THOSE RATINGS MORE SERIOUS.
02:58:25PM ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THEY MENTIONED IN THE PRESS RELEASE.
02:58:28PM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN -- YOU CIRCULATED IT, COUNCILMAN
02:58:35PM CARLSON, 20% OF EXPENDITURES.
02:58:37PM NOT MEETING 20% BUT EXCEEDING 20% OF EXPENDITURES ON AN
02:58:42PM ASSIGNED FUND BALANCE FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS.
02:58:44PM THEY HIGHLIGHT THAT.
02:58:45PM IN A CONCENTRATED AUDIT FOR REASONS WE TALKED ABOUT.
02:58:49PM NOT ONLY A VERY STRONG FUND BALANCE, BUT WHEN THINGS ARISE,
02:58:53PM WHETHER KNOWN OR UNKNOWN, WE ARE PREPARED TO DEAL WITH THOSE
02:58:57PM THINGS.
02:58:57PM AND, AGAIN, RECOGNIZING THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS A VERY, VERY
02:59:03PM STRONG ECONOMIC DRIVER IN OUR METROPOLITAN STATISTICAL AREA.
02:59:07PM I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
02:59:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:59:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, I WROTE A LITTLE NOTE TO MYSELF ON
02:59:15PM HERE.
02:59:15PM WAIT A SECOND AND LET ME LOOK AT IT REALLY QUICK.
02:59:19PM CONGRATULATIONS, FIRST OF ALL.
02:59:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
02:59:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I GOT HERE 17 MONTHS AGO, YOU ALL CAME UP
02:59:25PM HERE A COUPLE OF TIMES RECEIVING AWARDS, YOU KNOW, NOR THE
02:59:29PM FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
02:59:30PM AND SO THIS IS PROOF THAT THE WORK HAS CONTINUED IN A VERY
02:59:35PM SUCCESSFUL WAY AND I COMMEND YOU ON THAT.
02:59:37PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
02:59:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ESPECIALLY BECAUSE -- ONE OF THE
02:59:39PM COMPLAINTS THAT COME FROM UP HERE IS ABOUT OUR BONDING
02:59:42PM CAPACITY AND APPARENTLY IT HAS NOT HURT US AT ALL.
02:59:45PM WE ARE CAPABLE OF DOING THAT AND WE DO IT AT THE RIGHT TIME
02:59:48PM APPARENTLY IF OUR SCORES ARE REPRESENTED THE SAME WAY THAT,
02:59:52PM YOU KNOW, MY CREDIT SCORES ARE REPRESENTED.
02:59:54PM SO I HAVE A GREAT APPRECIATION FOR INFORMATION.
02:59:59PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
03:00:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IN TERMS OF OUR FUTURE OUTLOOK, ANYTHING
03:00:05PM THAT WE SHOULD ANTICIPATE FROM YOU ALL THAT IS GOING TO COME
03:00:08PM BEFORE US?
03:00:09PM OR ARE YOU EVER CONCERNED ABOUT ANYTHING THAT WE ARE DOING
03:00:11PM IN THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT COULD
03:00:17PM IMPACT US AT ANY CAPACITY FINANCIALLY?
03:00:22PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU KNOW, AFFECTS OF THIS STORM NOT
03:00:24PM WITHSTANDING BECAUSE WE ARE REVIEWING THAT.
03:00:27PM THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR SHARED OUR DAMAGE
03:00:30PM ASSESSMENT IS NEARLY $80,000.
03:00:33PM ABOUT TEN TIMES WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR HURRICANE RESERVE.
03:00:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BUT YOU CAN GET FEMA TO HELP OUT WITH
03:00:41PM THAT AS WELL.
03:00:41PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: ABSOLUTELY, FEMA, INSURANCES, FEDERAL,
03:00:45PM STATE REIMBURSEMENT.
03:00:48PM IT WILL BE A CRASH FLOW LIQUIDITY ISSUE.
03:00:52PM THE DAMAGES ARE EXTENSIVE.
03:00:54PM SETTING ASIDE WHAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE STORM.
03:00:57PM WE THINK WITH THE FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, THE
03:01:00PM SOLID WASTE EXERCISE THAT WE JUST GONE THROUGH, OR THE PIPES
03:01:03PM PROGRAM -- AND WE WILL BE SHARING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
03:01:07PM ABOUT THE PIPES PROGRAM.
03:01:08PM WE THINK AS THE CITY, WE HAVE A SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM
03:01:14PM PLAN FOR INFRASTRUCTURE REGARDING OF THE FUNDING SOURCE.
03:01:16PM THIS WILL ONLY, OF COURSE, HELP US FOR SOME OF THE REASONS
03:01:19PM THE CHAIR STATED.
03:01:21PM LOWER INTEREST RATES AND ETC.
03:01:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
03:01:24PM THANK YOU.
03:01:25PM YES, MA'AM.
03:01:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:01:27PM I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS.
03:01:30PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
03:01:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST FOR THE PUBLIC IN LOOKING AT THIS CHART.
03:01:34PM IT LOOKS TO ME, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE LOWEST
03:01:37PM RATING WE HAVE IS CAPITAL A, TWO LOWERCASE As.
03:01:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CAPITAL A, TWO LOWERCASE As.
03:01:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: UNDER WATER BONDS AND MOODY'S.
03:01:53PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NO, MA'AM.
03:01:55PM ITS IN GREEN.
03:01:57PM THAT IS THEIR EQUIVALENT OF A TRIPLE A ALL CAPS.
03:02:03PM A THAT IS THE HIGHEST.
03:02:05PM LITTLE CONFUSING.
03:02:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T SEE ANY ON HERE.
03:02:09PM WHAT IS THE LOWEST IT GETS.
03:02:12PM DOES IT GO TO OTHER LETTERS.
03:02:14PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
03:02:15PM IT GOES TO INVESTMENT -- JUNK BONDS, A, B, C, D, AND
03:02:23PM EVEN Z.
03:02:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ARE IN TE ALL A.
03:02:27PM SOME ARE PLUSES, SOME ARE MINUSES.
03:02:36PM BUT SINCE IT WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE STORM, I WAS GOING TO
03:02:39PM TALK ABOUT THIS.
03:02:39PM THE CONCERN IS LOSS OF PROPERTY TAX FROM THE DAMAGES AND
03:02:42PM FROM, QUITE FRANKLY, SOME OF OUR HEALTHIEST AREA THAT
03:02:46PM PROVIDE THE MOST PROPERTY TAX.
03:02:48PM SO I -- I AM -- I AM LESS BULLISH ON BONDING THAN I WAS
03:02:53PM BEFORE.
03:02:53PM I AM VERY CONCERNED.
03:02:56PM I EXPECT THAT WE ALL WILL HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS GOING
03:03:01PM FORWARD.
03:03:01PM TODAY IS NOT THE DAY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
03:03:03PM GUIDE IN THAT REGARD IS WONDERFULLY HELPFUL.
03:03:06PM WE STILL HAVE TWO FULL MONTHS OF HURRICANE SEASON.
03:03:09PM WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THIS WILL STILL BE BUSY.
03:03:13PM SO I AM VERY INTERESTED TO -- TO -- TO SEE WHAT IS NEXT.
03:03:18PM AND WHAT WE CAN DO.
03:03:20PM AND, YOU KNOW, I AM -- I AM CONFIDENT IN -- IN HOW -- IN HOW
03:03:26PM WE HAVE GONE THROUGH STORMS BEFORE.
03:03:27PM AND YOU MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT WE GET 80% TO 90% BACK OF
03:03:32PM WHAT WE SPENT AND IF WE DON'T HAVE IN THE HURRICANE RESERVE,
03:03:35PM WE CAN'T SPEND.
03:03:36PM I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS FURTHER ,AND
03:03:39PM I WANTED TO SAY THAT IT IS ON MY MIND ALREADY, AND IT HAS TO
03:03:42PM BE ON YOURS AS WELL.
03:03:44PM SO I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS BECAUSE WE MAY NEED THESE.
03:03:48PM >> YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:03:50PM YOUR CONCERNS ARE WELL-FOUNDED.
03:03:52PM WE HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS AND WE WILL HAVE MANY, MANY
03:03:55PM CONVERSATIONS AND GO THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT MECHANISMS
03:03:57PM THAT WE WILL HAVE TO GET US THROUGH, BECAUSE AS WE DISCUSSED
03:04:01PM BEFORE, FEDERAL REIMBURSEMENT IS NOT ALWAYS THE QUICKEST.
03:04:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:04:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU HAVE CONVERSATIONS OF PROPERTY
03:04:12PM APPRAISER HENRIQUEZ OF POSSIBLE REVENUE DROPS BECAUSE OF THE
03:04:17PM DESTRUCTION?
03:04:19PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NOT YET.
03:04:19PM WE, OF COURSE, WILL.
03:04:21PM WHAT I WOULD EXPECT IS THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT
03:04:24PM THEY DON'T KNOW BEFORE WE START HAVING AN INTERAGENCY
03:04:29PM DISCUSSION.
03:04:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.
03:04:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:04:33PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:04:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. BAIRD, 76.
03:04:39PM OR SOMEBODY.
03:04:39PM YES, SIR.
03:04:40PM AND WE HAVE A POWERPOINT TO GO WITH ITEM NUMBER 76.
03:04:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS WILL RUN.
03:04:47PM MAY I MAKE SOME QUICK MOTIONS ON SOME OTHER ITEMS HERE.
03:04:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR YOUR NEW BUSINESS JUST IN CASE?
03:04:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT IS, BUT ALSO WITH ANOTHER ITEM HERE THAT I
03:04:57PM DON'T THINK I AM GOING TO BE HERE FOR.
03:04:59PM I WANTED TO FEEL COUNCIL OUT ON THIS.
03:05:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T THINK THIS WILL BE VERY LONG.
03:05:02PM >> I CAN BE SHORT.
03:05:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL MAKE SURE YOU WILL GET THAT
03:05:07PM BEFORE 3:30.
03:05:09PM GO AHEAD.
03:05:10PM >> ERIC WEISS, WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.
03:05:14PM IF I CAN PULL UP THE POWERPOINT.
03:05:16PM IT IS VERY BRIEF.
03:05:17PM THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A GUARANTEE MAXIMUM PRICE CONTRACT
03:05:20PM FOR OUR MASTER PLAN PROJECT AT THE HOWARD F. CURREN ADVANCED
03:05:24PM WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND SPECIFIC LEAVE SLUDGE
03:05:27PM DIGESTION EXPANSION PROJECT.
03:05:29PM I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES HERE.
03:05:33PM MAY LOOK FAMILIAR.
03:05:34PM LAST MONTH, I DID A SIX-MONTH PIPES UPDATE.
03:05:38PM I TALKED ABOUT THIS VERY PROJECT.
03:05:40PM WE FINISHED NEGOTIATIONS.
03:05:41PM AND THIS IS THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE CONTRACT.
03:05:44PM I THINK I WENT ONE TOO MANY -- THERE WE GO.
03:05:48PM SO AT THE HOWARD CURREN PLANT.
03:05:52PM WE COLLECT SOLIDS THROUGH THE PROCESS CALLED SLUDGE.
03:05:57PM WE TREAT THE SLUDGE TO WHAT EPA CALLS A CLASS B WHICH WE
03:06:04PM DISPOSE OF IT.
03:06:06PM WE TREAT THE SLUDGE ON-SITE WITH AN AEROBIC DIGESTION.
03:06:11PM WHAT THAT IS, THE MIDDLE OF THE PICTURE BIG TANKS CALLED
03:06:15PM ANAEROBIC DIGESTERS.
03:06:18PM RAW SLUDGE GOES INTO THE BIG TANKS.
03:06:21PM YOU HEAT IT UP 95 DEGREES.
03:06:22PM 15 DAYS.
03:06:24PM STIR IT UP.
03:06:24PM WHAT THAT DOES GETS RID OF THE PROTOZOANS AND A LOT OF THE
03:06:30PM ORGANIC MODELS.
03:06:31PM WE HAVE SEVEN OF THE TANKS.
03:06:33PM FOUR OF THEM WERE THE ORIGINAL TANKS BUILT IN THE 1950s.
03:06:37PM BEYOND THE SERVICE LIFE.
03:06:38PM ALL THE PIPING, COMPRESSORS PUMPS, SO THAT IS WHAT THE
03:06:43PM BACKBONE OF THIS PROJECT IS, AND IRONICALLY, THERE IS A
03:06:46PM SUSTAINABILITY THAT SENDS TO THIS.
03:06:48PM JUST LIKE OTHER PARTS OF THE PLAN THAT YOU MAY HAVE HEARD,
03:06:52PM IT WAS ENGINEERING PRACTICE AT THAT TIME IN THE 50s AND 60s.
03:06:55PM PUT THE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT BELOW GRADE IN THE BASEMENT,
03:06:59PM YOU DON'T SEE IT.
03:07:01PM THAT CAME BACK TO HURT US LAST WEEK.
03:07:03PM WE HAVE THREE SLUDGE CONTROL BUILDINGS FOR THIS PROCESS.
03:07:07PM ONE OF THEM FLOODED OUT.
03:07:08PM ABOUT $250,000 WORTH OF DAMAGE AND STILL NOT ONLINE.
03:07:13PM GETTING CLOSE HOPEFULLY BY TODAY AND TOMORROW.
03:07:16PM OPINION BUT IT FLOODED THE BASEMENT, THE COMPRESSORS, THE
03:07:19PM PUMPS, THE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT.
03:07:21PM PART INFORM GMP, YOU GET TWO OF THESE BIG TANKS, ABOUT TWO
03:07:26PM AND A HALF MILLION GALLONS OF STORAGE EACH.
03:07:29PM THE NEW SLUDGE CONTROL BUILDINGS ARE ABOVE GRADE, 100-YEAR
03:07:34PM FLOOD PLAIN.
03:07:35PM I HAVE ONE MORE QUICK SLIDE, OKAY.
03:07:37PM THIS GMP I AM TALKING ABOUT IS PHASE TWO.
03:07:41PM I AM QUICKLY GOING TO TALK OF A PHASE THREE, BECAUSE THEY
03:07:44PM ARE KIND OF INTERELATED.
03:07:46PM IN THE AEROBIC DIGESTERS WE MAKE METHANE GAS.
03:07:51PM EQUIVALENT TO 1.4 MILLION GALLONS OF DIESEL FUEL.
03:07:56PM THAT IS HOW MUCH IT IS WORTH.
03:07:57PM WHAT WE HAVE DONE FROM THE 1970s TO A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO,
03:08:01PM WE USED THAT METHANE GAS, PUT IT IN GENERATORS TO PRODUCE
03:08:05PM ELECTRICITY AND OFFSET ABOUT 20% OF OUR ELECTRIC COST TO THE
03:08:09PM PLAN.
03:08:10PM FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO, THEY GOT TOO OLD AND UNREPAIRABLE.
03:08:17PM YOU SEE IN THE MIDDLE PICTURE A FLARE.
03:08:19PM WE HAVE BEEN FLARING IT EVER SINCE BECAUSE YOU GOT TO GET
03:08:22PM RID OF IT.
03:08:22PM OUR MASTER PLAN SAID LOOK AT A BUNCH OF ALTERNATIVES.
03:08:26PM THE BEST WAY FORWARD TO TAKE THIS METHANE GAS.
03:08:30PM CLEAN IT UP.
03:08:30PM CONSIDERED DIRTY GAS.
03:08:32PM THROUGH THE TOP RIGHT, MEMBRANES IT WILL GO THROUGH TO CLEAN
03:08:35PM IT.
03:08:35PM IF WE TAKE THAT GAS, YOU CAN PUT IT INTO THE NATURAL GAS
03:08:39PM PIPELINE AND IF IT IS USED FOR TRANSPORTATION FUELS LIKE THE
03:08:43PM PICTURE, I RS GIVES YOU A TAX CREDIT.
03:08:47PM SO IT LOOKS LIKE NOW A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE COULD GET $20
03:08:51PM MILLION OFF OUR PHASE TWO GMP TODAY.
03:08:54PM WE WILL KNOW IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
03:08:56PM THEY KIND OF DID DRAFT RULES.
03:08:59PM KIND OF VAGUE.
03:09:00PM IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE ELIGIBLE, BUT WE HIRED AN OUTSIDE TAX
03:09:05PM CONSULTANT TO HELP US.
03:09:06PM AND -- AND NEW RULES COMING OUT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF
03:09:11PM MONTHS.
03:09:11PM WE WILL KNOW SOON AND HELPFUL TO GET THAT $20 MILLION.
03:09:16PM I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PROJECT.
03:09:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:09:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU KNOW BEFORE I -- JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
03:09:23PM THIS WILL BE BONDED OR -- THROUGH WASTEWATER, CORRECT?
03:09:29PM >> THROUGH WASTEWATER, THE PIPES PROGRAM.
03:09:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EXCELLENT.
03:09:33PM WE HAVE ALL THOSE NEW RATINGS.
03:09:35PM THAT'S IT.
03:09:36PM THIS IS A VERY -- I WOULD SAYS IT AN EXCITING PROJECT.
03:09:41PM I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT WE ARE DOING.
03:09:43PM HOW -- WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME FOR THIS PROJECT?
03:09:47PM >> ACTUALLY A THREE-YEAR PROJECT.
03:09:49PM BECAUSE A LOT OF IT HAS TO BE IN SERIES.
03:09:52PM BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO RUN THE PLANT AND RUN THE OTHER
03:09:56PM SLUDGE DIGESTERS THAT KEEP THEM GOING WHILE WE ARE ADDING
03:09:58PM THIS.
03:09:59PM AND THE USUAL LONG LEAD TIME OF GETTING BIG PIECES OF
03:10:03PM ROTATING EQUIPMENT.
03:10:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:10:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
03:10:08PM IF NOT, A MOTION TO MOVE THIS ITEM.
03:10:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
03:10:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
03:10:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:10:13PM OPPOSED.
03:10:14PM >> IS THIS TWO READINGS THOUGH?
03:10:17PM IS THAT THE WAY --
03:10:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS JUST ONE ITEM.
03:10:20PM IT WAS PLACED UNDER STAFF REPORTS BECAUSE OF THE DOLLAR
03:10:22PM AMOUNT.
03:10:23PM >>.
03:10:27PM >>BRAD BAIRD: BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR.
03:10:31PM BECAUSE IT IS OVER 20 MILLION, IT HAS TO COME BACK A SECOND
03:10:35PM TIME.
03:10:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BY MOVING THE RESOLUTION IT SETS IT FOR
03:10:38PM FIRST READING.
03:10:39PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THIS WAS FOR DISCUSSION.
03:10:42PM THE SECOND ONE IS FOR APPROVAL.
03:10:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OH, OKAY.
03:10:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
03:10:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
03:10:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:10:54PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:10:55PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, OPPOSED?
03:11:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION TO BRING IT BACK FOR APPROVAL ON OCTOBER
03:11:04PM 17.
03:11:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:11:06PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:11:07PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:11:08PM OPPOSED?
03:11:09PM ALL RIGHT.
03:11:09PM LAST ITEM OF THE DAY BEFORE NEW BUSINESS IS ITEM NUMBER 81,
03:11:14PM A MOTION I DID COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:11:16PM MR. JUSTIN VASKE IS HERE WITH A VERBAL REPORT.
03:11:20PM YOU HAVE MOTIONS REGARDING THIS.
03:11:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: I DO.
03:11:23PM AND I WILL SET THIS UP IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:11:27PM WE LEARNED THAT THE APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE THAT WE PASSED
03:11:31PM -- GOSH, I THINK IT WAS 020, IF I RECALL, HAS BEEN PREEMPTED
03:11:36PM BY THE -- BY THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR.
03:11:39PM AND I -- I THINK THAT IS AWFUL.
03:11:42PM I THINK THAT IS TERRIBLE.
03:11:43PM WHAT WE SOUGHT TO DO HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WAS TO HAVE A
03:11:48PM -- A MIDDLE PATH, I GUESS, FULL WITH WHAT ST. PETERSBURG DID
03:11:52PM WHERE THEY HAVE A 15% NUMBER WITHOUT THE ACCOMMODATIONS THAT
03:11:56PM WE HAD, AS WELL AS THE DISADVANTAGED CITIZENS PROVISION.
03:11:58PM WHAT WE SOUGHT TO DO WAS TO HAVE IT AT 12%.
03:12:02PM TO HAVE A NUMBER OF GOOD FAITH EFFORTS SO THAT IF SOMEBODY
03:12:06PM DIDN'T REACH THAT 12%, WE COULD WORK WITH THEM TO TRY TO HIT
03:12:10PM A TRIPLE OPPOSED TO A GRAND SLAM ON THAT ISSUE.
03:12:14PM AND UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ARE A HAMMER,
03:12:16PM EVERYTHING IS A NAIL, RIGHT.
03:12:18PM UNFORTUNATELY WE FELL UNDER THAT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:12:24PM I WANTED JUSTIN TO COME AND BRIEF US ON THIS.
03:12:31PM I WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION.
03:12:33PM OUR MAIN TOOL HAS UNFORTUNATELY HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM US.
03:12:37PM I THOUGHT WE USE IT IN A VERY REASONABLE WAY.
03:12:40PM I WANTED TO MOTION WITH STAFF TO COME TO BACK AN ORDINANCE
03:12:45PM AND INCENTIVES OF STATE CERTIFIED APPRENTICESHIP AND
03:12:50PM DIFFERENT PROGRAMS WE CAN TAKE BECAUSE THIS IS -- TO ME,
03:12:53PM THIS IS A REAL PUNCH IN THE GUT FOR TAMPA'S WORKING FAMILIES
03:12:58PM AND YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WANT A SHOT IN LIFE.
03:13:00PM AGAIN, THAT IS JUST THE WAY IT IS.
03:13:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. VASKE, GO.
03:13:09PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: JUSTIN VASKE, CITY ATTORNEY'S DEPARTMENT.
03:13:13PM I AM WORKING ON AN ORDINANCE AM SOPPED THINGS IN THE OLD
03:13:18PM ORDINANCE WE CAN'T ENFORCE.
03:13:19PM I AM LOOKING FOR AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM.
03:13:22PM I AM WORKING WITH BRENDA AND HOPEFULLY WILL HAVE SOMETHING
03:13:25PM BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
03:13:26PM I WON'T SAY SAVE THE ORDINANCE BUT THE SAME SECTION OF THE
03:13:29PM CODE AND SIMILAR PROVISIONS, BUT WE CAN'T REQUIRE ANYTHING,
03:13:32PM SO WE ARE JUST GOING TO MAKE IT INCENTIVIZED, BUT THAT'S IT.
03:13:36PM THAT'S ALL.
03:13:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN.
03:13:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
03:13:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAKE A SUGGESTION AND GIVE PLENTY OF TIME
03:13:44PM AND CONTINUE TO FEBRUARY 20.
03:13:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: I AM OKAY WITH THAT.
03:13:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
03:13:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:13:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:13:51PM AND I WOULD -- I -- -- I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE INDIVIDUAL,
03:13:58PM LIKE, DISCUSSION.
03:13:59PM I THINK TALKING TO EACH OF US ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT
03:14:04PM CAN HAPPEN.
03:14:04PM I WOULD LOVE TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT -- TO TALK OF SOME OF
03:14:08PM THE INCENTIVES IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
03:14:09PM WE CAN REALLY, REALLY MAKE IT WORTH PEOPLE'S WHILE.
03:14:13PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: RIGHT.
03:14:14PM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE BRENDA McKENZIE INVOLVED WITH
03:14:19PM THAT.
03:14:20PM IF THERE WAS A MOTION, WOULD LIKE FOR HER NAME TO BE
03:14:23PM INVOLVED.
03:14:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:14:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND THAT IS WHAT I WAS -- I WROTE IT DOWN.
03:14:28PM FOR MISS McKENZIE TO COME BACK.
03:14:33PM I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE NUMBER OF DOLLARS AND
03:14:35PM APPRENTICESHIPS WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS
03:14:39PM ORDINANCE.
03:14:39PM I WILL BE A BROKEN RECORD ON THIS.
03:14:41PM WHEN WE STARTED WORKING ON THIS, I STARTED MEETING WITH THE
03:14:44PM UNIONS AND THE CONTRACTING COMMUNITY MAYBE NINE MONTHS
03:14:48PM BEFORE I BROUGHT IT UP AT CITY COUNCIL.
03:14:50PM BECAUSE I WANTED SOMETHING THAT GOT INPUT FROM BOTH SIDES
03:14:52PM THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD.
03:14:54PM MY BIG AIM -- IT IS DONE AND I WILL BE TRANSPARENT WAS TO
03:15:00PM TRY TO AVOID LITIGATION BECAUSE.
03:15:04PM I WILL BE HONEST, I AM SURPRISED THAT LAWS LIKE THAT LASTED
03:15:08PM AS LONG AS THEY DID FROM TALLAHASSEE.
03:15:10PM WE HAVE THREE AND A HALF YEARS ON THIS WHICH IS A YEAR AND A
03:15:13PM HALF A TWO YEARS LONGER THAN I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.
03:15:17PM I AM JUST BEING HONEST.
03:15:19PM I THOUGHT OUR ORDINANCE WAS A VERY GOOD ORDINANCE THAT
03:15:23PM ACCOMMODATED SMALL BUSINESSES AND MEDIUM BUSINESSES, AND,
03:15:26PM ETC.
03:15:27PM AND MOVED THIS FORWARD -- COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, WHAT DATE DO
03:15:32PM YOU HAVE?
03:15:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FEBRUARY 20.
03:15:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: I AM FINE WITH THAT.
03:15:34PM HAVE STAFF, LEGAL, YOURSELF OR SOMEBODY ELSE, MISS McKENZIE
03:15:40PM COME BACK ON A NUMBER OF ISSUES.
03:15:42PM NUMBER ONE, TO COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE CONSISTENT WITH
03:15:45PM STATE LAW OF INCENTIVES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR CONTRACTORS
03:15:48PM FOR APPRENTICESHIP, NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO FOR MISS McKENZIE
03:15:53PM TO GIVE US A BRIEFING OF WHAT THAT APPRENTICESHIP LAW HAS
03:15:57PM DONE AND NOT NECESSARILY A PART OF IT, ALL COUNCILMEMBERS
03:16:02PM BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, AND WE
03:16:05PM OUGHT TO MAXIMIZE THAT ATs AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
03:16:07PM SO UNLESS ANYBODY --
03:16:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND WITH AN ADDITION, IF I COULD.
03:16:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM, PLEASE.
03:16:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT INVOLVING THE CONTRACTING
03:16:17PM COMMUNITY AND THE UNION.
03:16:18PM UP WOULD LOVE IF THOSE COULD BE A PART OF IT, BECAUSE THERE
03:16:23PM IS NO POINT IN BUILDING INCENTIVES IF THEY WON'T BE USED.
03:16:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: VERY TRUE.
03:16:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:16:29PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:16:30PM ANY OPPOSED?
03:16:32PM ANYTHING ELSE?
03:16:33PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
03:16:34PM THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA.
03:16:35PM GO TO NEW BUSINESS.
03:16:36PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, I KNOW YOU GOT TO GO, SO I WILL START WITH
03:16:39PM YOU.
03:16:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
03:16:40PM YES.
03:16:41PM LET ME FIND MY MOTIONS HERE.
03:16:43PM THERE WASN'T MUCH THERE.
03:16:45PM SO I GOT THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
03:16:48PM THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
03:16:48PM SO WE HAD A BRIEFING TODAY ON THE -- ON THE GROCERY STORE
03:16:53PM ISSUE MORE SO FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS.
03:16:56PM AND WE ARE TALKING A LOT ABOUT THAT IN -- IN CRA RIGHT NOW,
03:17:02PM BECAUSE CRA IS WHERE WE ARE CHOOSING TO MANEUVER THAT.
03:17:06PM HOWEVER, BARRING THAT, IS ANYONE AWARE OF THE FARM SHARE
03:17:10PM PROGRAM IN PINELLAS COUNTY?
03:17:12PM ANYONE AWARE OF THAT -- IN MIAMI, YES.
03:17:16PM YOU KNOW WHAT I WILL DO IS, I WILL SEND A MEMO OUT TO CITY
03:17:20PM COUNCIL BEFORE I MAKE THIS MOTION, BUT FARM SHARE IS A
03:17:22PM PROGRAM WHERE LOCAL GROCERS.
03:17:25PM SMALL BUSINESSES GET TOGETHER IN AREAS THAT ARE -- THAT
03:17:28PM DON'T HAVE THE BEST ACCESS TO GROCERY STORES, ETC.
03:17:32PM AND SET UP JUST THAT, A FARM SHARE.
03:17:34PM I THINK THAT SOMETHING LIKE THEY CAN IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
03:17:37PM I REMEMBER -- AND BY THE WAY IN FULL TRANSPARENCY, A MEMBER
03:17:41PM OF THE STAFF TALKED TO ME ABOUT A WEEK AGO AND NOT MY IDEA,
03:17:45PM SO I THINK THAT WILL BE A GREAT IDEA.
03:17:47PM I WILL DO THAT NEXT BEAK, IF YOU MAY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO
03:17:51PM SEND THAT OUT.
03:17:52PM THE SECOND THING IS -- I GOT THE NUMBER ON THE RACIAL
03:17:55PM RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
03:17:57PM SO TO HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL MEETINGS -- THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE
03:18:01PM NUMBER.
03:18:01PM VERY ON POINT, 15,225.50.
03:18:07PM I DO AGREE -- AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID AND I WAS GOING
03:18:11PM TO ADDRESS THIS AS WELL, THAT HAVING THESE TOPICS, RIGHT,
03:18:16PM PUT TWO IN ONE MEETING, I DON'T THINK WILL BE EFFICIENT.
03:18:21PM IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS, WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS RIGHT.
03:18:24PM WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT OF REQUESTING $75,000 FOR THIS ECONOMY
03:18:30PM COMMITTEE AND EVEN WITH THIS, $10,000 UNDER THE LEVEL WE
03:18:35PM ORIGINALLY CONSIDERED.
03:18:36PM AND THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.
03:18:38PM I WANT TO STRESS THIS BECAUSE THIS IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE
03:18:40PM THERE IS ALWAYS DIALOGUE AND ISSUES, ETC.
03:18:42PM WHEN I MOTIONED FOR THIS, I MET WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT
03:18:47PM COMMUNITY GROUPS ON IT.
03:18:48PM WE TALKED ABOUT HERE IN COUNCIL AS WELL.
03:18:50PM THE TOPICS THAT WOULD BE ON THIS.
03:18:53PM I HAVE GONE OVER MR. -- WITH MR. SHELBY THE DIFFERENT
03:18:56PM RESOLUTIONS.
03:18:57PM I GO OVER THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS -- TO CALL IT A SENSITIVE
03:19:01PM ISSUE IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT.
03:19:02PM I TRY TO DEAL WITH THAT IN A WAY.
03:19:05PM IF COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL TOPICS OR ANYTHING OF
03:19:09PM THAT NATURE THEY WANT TO ADD ON TO IT, KNOW THAT WE VOTED ON
03:19:13PM IT.
03:19:13PM -- I THINK WE TALLIED SEVEN TIMES OR SORE WITH THE PROGRAM
03:19:17PM WE DISCUSSED WITH THE COMMITTEE AND MY OFFICE IS PUTTING A
03:19:20PM LOT OF TIME INTO THIS.
03:19:21PM SO IF OTHER OFFICES HAVE IDEAS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE
03:19:24PM THAT YOU WANT TO PUT ON THERE, WE CAN DO THAT.
03:19:27PM BUT YOU GOT TO HELP.
03:19:29PM BECAUSE WE ARE TAKING A LOT OF TIME IN MY OFFICE ON THIS.
03:19:31PM AND I AM GLAD TO DO THAT.
03:19:33PM BUT I JUST SAY THAT.
03:19:35PM MY MOTION IS BARRING THAT FOR 15,262.50 TO COMPLETE THE
03:19:40PM NUMBER OF MEETINGS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A ROBUST -- A TRULY
03:19:44PM ROBUST RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
03:19:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:19:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
03:19:49PM BUT CAN WE ROUND THAT NUMBER.
03:19:51PM PENNIES IN GOVERNMENT MAKE ME UNCOMFORTABLE.
03:19:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: I KNOW.
03:19:54PM HOW ABOUT $20,000.
03:19:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE, 20,000 WORKS.
03:19:59PM MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION -- AND, AGAIN, I -- I WAS THINKING
03:20:03PM ABOUT THIS TODAY.
03:20:04PM FOR EACH ITEM, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WILL HAVE THE
03:20:09PM FACILITATOR.
03:20:10PM THERE BE ACTUAL STAFF MEMBERS THERE TO TALK.
03:20:14PM SO LIKE DURING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SOMEONE BE THERE TO TALK
03:20:17PM ABOUT WHAT WE ARE ALREADY DO IN AFFORDABLE HOUSE SOMETHING
03:20:22PM IN GOOD.
03:20:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
03:20:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION.
03:20:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE DEAL WITH ORGANIZATIONS TO DEAL WITH THE
03:20:29PM PARTICULAR TOP, INC. AND STAFF MEMBERS THERE.
03:20:31PM THAT IS PART OF WHAT WE ARE DOING.
03:20:33PM A GREAT QUESTION.
03:20:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL SECOND THAT.
03:20:35PM AND REALLY LOOKING FORWARD THIS, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
03:20:38PM YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS.
03:20:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN CLENDENIN.
03:20:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING THAT THERE ARE
03:20:45PM SOME NEW FACTORS BECAUSE OF THE STORM.
03:20:47PM AND -- TO THE EXTENT STAFF MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP, IT WOULD
03:20:52PM BE GREAT TO GET THOSE REIMBURSED BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR
03:20:55PM SOMEBODY.
03:20:56PM IF -- WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS THE POST STORM ISSUES
03:20:59PM ANYWAY.
03:21:00PM IF IT IS PACKAGED IN THE RIGHT WAY, MAYBE IT WILL GET
03:21:03PM REIMBURSED.
03:21:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:21:06PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:21:07PM OPPOSED.
03:21:07PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR.
03:21:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO, SIR.
03:21:09PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:21:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE I START WITH EVERYBODY ELSE, I
03:21:15PM HAVE QUICK MOTIONS.
03:21:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: UH-OH.
03:21:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHY CAN'T YOU GO --
03:21:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BECAUSE I GET RUSHED.
03:21:27PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU ARE THE CHAIR CLENDENIN CHAIR PRO TEM
03:21:32PM RECOGNIZES COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:21:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A REMINDER TO ALL COUNCILMEMBERS.
03:21:37PM WE HAVE UNTIL THE END OF OCTOBER TO TALK TO ADRI COLINA OF
03:21:43PM THE CITY COUNCIL RENOVATIONS.
03:21:44PM I MENTIONED IT.
03:21:45PM FYI, COUNCIL EVENING MEETING WAS SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 1 AT
03:21:50PM 5:01 P.M. 12 ITEMS ON THAT EVENING.
03:21:53PM A REGULAR DAY MEETING.
03:21:54PM AND THEN WE HAVE THIS.
03:21:55PM SO WE CAN CATCH UP.
03:21:57PM WE NEED TO RESCHEDULED OUR WORKSHOP FROM SEPTEMBER 26,
03:22:03PM POSSIBLY ADD THE WORKSHOP ITEMS A REGULAR MEETING COULD BE
03:22:08PM AN OPTION.
03:22:08PM TO DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT TODAY, MR. SHELBY --
03:22:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY?
03:22:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR WORKSHOPS.
03:22:19PM THE WORKSHOPS WE WERE GOING TO HAVE LAST WEEK BECAUSE OF THE
03:22:22PM STORM.
03:22:22PM WE NEED TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT DATES.
03:22:23PM DO WE DO THAT TODAY --
03:22:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DON'T REASON IS TO.
03:22:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN'T WE MOVE THE AGENDA ITEMS TO AN
03:22:29PM EXISTING SCHEDULED WORKSHOP.
03:22:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DON'T HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP UNTIL FEBRUARY.
03:22:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN THINK ABOUT BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT
03:22:41PM THURSDAY A DATE.
03:22:42PM SO COUNCILMEMBERS CAN LOOK.
03:22:43PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:22:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:22:45PM I AM ADAMANT THAT WE TRY TO GET THIS DONE.
03:22:48PM ANOTHER ADDITION I WANTED TO ADD.
03:22:53PM I THINK WE NEED A WORK.
03:22:54PM SHOP ABOUT THIS STORM.
03:22:57PM WE NEED TO TALK OF POSSIBILITIES.
03:22:59PM SUCCESSES.
03:22:59PM LIKE A SWAT ANALYSES.
03:23:01PM SUCCESS, OPPORTUNITIES, WEAKNESSES, THREATS ABOUT WHAT IS
03:23:05PM LOOMING FOR FINANCES.
03:23:07PM WHAT IS LOOMING FOR -- YOU KNOW, WHAT -- WHAT DID OUR FIRST
03:23:10PM RESPONDERS NEED THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE.
03:23:12PM THINGS LIKE THAT.
03:23:13PM SO I THINK -- IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO KIND OF COMBINE ALL
03:23:17PM OF THAT.
03:23:17PM I WILL ABSOLUTELY LOOK AT MY CALENDAR.
03:23:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL TAKE AN .
03:23:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT THURSDAY NIGHT, COUNCILMEMBERS,
03:23:26PM LOOK AT THE CALENDARS AND WHERE WE CAN FIT IN THAT WORKSHOP
03:23:30PM AND ADD THAT STORM ONE.
03:23:31PM YES, SIR?
03:23:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU ALSO CONTEMPLATING -- CONTEMPLATING
03:23:36PM A THURSDAY AND ANY OTHER DAYS OF THE WEEK A TUESDAY OR --
03:23:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LOOK AT THURSDAY -- WE JUST ADDED THAT
03:23:43PM EVENING MEETING TO THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL DAY MEETING.
03:23:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PERHAPS -- AND WE WILL SEE IF WE CAN GET
03:23:51PM THAT AGENDA BACK -- PERHAPS SOME CAN BE CONVERTED TO STAFF
03:23:55PM REPORTS.
03:23:55PM SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT CAN BE EXPEDITED.
03:23:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO IT BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT THURSDAY.
03:24:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AN IOU NEXT.
03:24:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN I SAY SOMETHING -- IMPORTANT FOR ME
03:24:08PM FOR JBL WAS PART OF THAT WORKSHOP AND THE CONTRACT IS
03:24:12PM EXPIRING IN APRIL.
03:24:13PM THE SOONER THE BETTER FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT IS VERY
03:24:16PM IMPORTANT.
03:24:16PM WE CAN'T KICK THAT CAN DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE OF THE NATURE
03:24:19PM OF IT BEING A CONTRACT THAT IS EXPIRING AND ALL OF THE
03:24:23PM THINGS THAT IT TAKES TO BE NOTIFIED -- TO BE NOTIFIED
03:24:26PM FOR RFP.
03:24:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BRING THAT TO THE TABLE BEFORE NEXT WEEK.
03:24:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAKE IT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR TO
03:24:32PM STAY WITHIN THE TIME PERIOD.
03:24:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:24:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: A WAY -- IF WE CAN LOOK AT THE AGENDA WE CAN
03:24:38PM ADD IT TO ONE OF OUR STAFF REPORTS TIMES TO DISCUSS IT.
03:24:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BRING IT TO THE MEETING NEXT WEEK AND
03:24:45PM RESCHEDULED NECK WEEKS.
03:24:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IT IS A
03:24:48PM WORKSHOP WE HAVE TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC.
03:24:50PM DOING A WORKSHOP WITHIN A MEETING, IS THAT --
03:24:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC.
03:24:55PM WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN.
03:24:56PM I WOULD LIKE TO WISH COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON A EARLY
03:25:02PM BIRTHDAY.
03:25:02PM  HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU 
03:25:04PM  HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU 
03:25:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALREADY VOTED US THE MOST ENTERTAINING
03:25:12PM  HAPPY BIRTHDAY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON 
03:25:16PM  HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU 
03:25:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: LAST YEAR OF THE BABY BOOMERS, 1964.
03:25:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST LIKE MY AUNT, THAT'S RIGHT.
03:25:25PM LAST ITEM, PROVIDE A COMMENDATION OFF-SITE.
03:25:28PM CELEBRATION OF LIFE FOR RUTH "MOTHER" HODGES.
03:25:32PM CELEBRATION OF LIFE OCTOBER 5, 2024 IN LAKELAND.
03:25:36PM RETIRED TEACHER/EDUCATORS.
03:25:38PM ARE, TUTOR, ACADEMIC TUTOR, MUSIC TEACHER.
03:25:43PM AWARD RECIPIENT FOR THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HUMAN RIGHTS
03:25:46PM BOARD I WAS A MEMBER OF YEARS AGO AND PRESENTLY HONORED BY
03:25:51PM THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IN 2004.
03:25:53PM SENSE THEN HONORED FOR HER HUMANITARIAN TRIPS TO HAITI.
03:25:59PM RECENTLY PASSED AWAY COMPLETING 55 HUMANITARIAN TRIPS.
03:26:03PM I AM GOING TO DRIVE OVER.
03:26:05PM IF FIB WANTS TO JOIN ME, 11, 12:00.
03:26:09PM I WILL PRESENT IT TO THE FAMILY.
03:26:11PM A REMARKABLE PERSON.
03:26:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:26:15PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:26:16PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:26:17PM OPPOSED.
03:26:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:26:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, I -- TOP HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT
03:26:25PM THE STORM AND ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ABOUT THE
03:26:30PM ENVIRONMENT.
03:26:30PM THE ENVIRONMENT -- I NEVER SEEN SO MANY STORMS COME OUT OF
03:26:34PM THE GULF.
03:26:35PM NEVER TAMPA IT IS GETTING -- IT IS GETTING SCARY WHAT
03:26:38PM HAPPENING IS.
03:26:41PM I HOPE I AM WRONG, BUT -- MORE OF A REGULAR OCCURRENCE THAN
03:26:46PM IN THE PAST.
03:26:47PM IN THE PAST IT WAS ONE OR TWO AND THAT WAS IT AND THAT WAS
03:26:50PM LATE OCTOBER.
03:26:51PM NOW IT IS CHANGING.
03:26:52PM AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOUSING AND YOU LOOK AT HOW WE BUILD.
03:26:56PM I AM NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THE WORLD.
03:26:58PM I CAN TELL YOU GO TO ANY ISLAND IN THE CARIBBEAN.
03:27:01PM THEY DON'T WHERE LIKE WE BUILD.
03:27:04PM EVERYTHING IS CONCRETE FROM CEILING DOWN AND NOTHING LEAVES.
03:27:08PM NOW WHEN THEY GO OUT TO THE CAMPO -- THEY CALL IS THEO, THE
03:27:14PM FARM AREAS, THEY TEAR THEM APART.
03:27:15PM BUT THOSE BUILDINGS ARE NOT THROWN DOWN.
03:27:17PM THEY DON'T HAVE ANY EAVES OR HANGOVERS.
03:27:20PM THEY CAN TAKE THE WALLS THAT COLLAPSE BECAUSE THE ROOF
03:27:23PM LEAVES AND THE WALLS FALL IN.
03:27:25PM NOTHING IS DONE.
03:27:26PM I SAW SOMETHING ON TELEVISION AND AN INDIVIDUAL THAT DID
03:27:30PM SOMETHING ON ONE OF THE BEACHES.
03:27:32PM THE WATER DOES NOT GO IN THE HOUSE.
03:27:34PM HE BUILT SOMETHING THAT -- RAILS, ALUMINIUM.
03:27:37PM AND THE BACK HAS GOT RUBBER.
03:27:39PM AND THE WINDOWS AND GARAGES AND PLEXIGLASS ALL THE WAY DOWN
03:27:43PM TO THE FLOOR.
03:27:44PM UP TO SIX-FOOT HIGH, THE WATER WILL NOT GO IN THE HOUSE.
03:27:47PM AND ALL THOSE THINGS CAN BE DONE AND BUILT.
03:27:49PM IF THEY INVENT IT, WE CAN DO IT.
03:27:51PM I AM NOT SAYING WE HAVE TO DO IT.
03:27:55PM BUT IT HAS GOT TO BE BROUGHT UP BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SAVE
03:27:57PM HUMANITY.
03:27:58PM THE LOSS THESE PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING NO ONE CAN TELL YOU
03:28:02PM ABOUT THEM.
03:28:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE RIGHT.
03:28:04PM OPINION COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:28:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL RIGHT, MICROPHONE IS ON.
03:28:07PM SO HURTAK DOESN'T HAVE TO TELL ME THAT.
03:28:09PM FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATION CHARLIE MIRANDA PLAZA.
03:28:14PM I AM CALLING YOU PLAZA FROM NOW ON.
03:28:16PM MEET NEW THE PLAZA.
03:28:18PM CONGRATULATIONS.
03:28:19PM THAT IS REALLY A BIG DEAL, CHARLIE.
03:28:21PM I AM VERY HONORED TO SIT AT THIS DAIS WITH YOU.
03:28:24PM SO THERE IS THAT.
03:28:26PM AND GUIDO, FOR THE RECORD HE GOT EMOTIONAL AND WAS ABOUT TO
03:28:32PM DRY.
03:28:32PM I LOVE THAT.
03:28:33PM I LIKE WHEN MEN DO THAT.
03:28:35PM I REALLY DO.
03:28:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS TRUE.
03:28:37PM WENT FROM THE COFFEE SHOP CONVERSATION TO THE DAIS.
03:28:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SHOWING US THAT.
03:28:42PM I TOOK A PICTURE OF IT.
03:28:44PM ALSO, I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE COMMUNITY FOR
03:28:50PM COMING OUT AND SUPPORTING HBCU WEEK.
03:28:53PM WE DID NOT LET THE WEATHER STOP US.
03:28:56PM A WONDERFUL WAY TO ACTIVATE A CENTER.
03:29:00PM THE COMMUNITY CAME OUT.
03:29:01PM SENIOR CITIZENS IN THEIR 70s AND 80s THAT WALKED THERE FROM
03:29:04PM THEIR HOMES IN THEIR COLLEGE SHIRTS.
03:29:07PM JUST SO EXCITING AND I AM REALLY PROUD OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO
03:29:11PM GIVE THEM SOME ELEVATION IN THEIR COMMUNITY THAT WAY.
03:29:15PM AND TO CELEBRATE HISTORICAL BLACK COLLEGES.
03:29:17PM OKAY, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY
03:29:22PM LIFE, I HAVE QUITE A FEW MOTIONS THAT I WANT TO MAKE.
03:29:24PM AND I WILL START WITH THIS ONE.
03:29:26PM I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT STAFF PROVIDE A FIVE-MINUTE
03:29:31PM IN-PERSON REPORT TO PRESENT AN OVERVIEW OF THE DIGITAL
03:29:33PM ADVERTISING SERVICES CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
03:29:41PM A CORPORATION.
03:29:42PM DO I NEED TO READ WHAT I WANT IN IT FOR THE SAKE OF -- A
03:29:46PM COMPARISON OF CURRENT STATE AND FUTURE -- FUTURE STATE AS IT
03:29:51PM RELATES TO THE USE OF CONVENTION CENTER DIGITAL ASSETS TO
03:29:55PM PRODUCE ADVERTISING REVENUE.
03:29:57PM A SUMMARY OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THE AGREEMENT, LIKE
03:30:01PM TERMS, EXCLUSIVITY AND CAPITAL SHARE AND MARKETING
03:30:07PM CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE CONTRACTOR AND ESTIMATE RANGE OF THE
03:30:09PM FISCAL YEAR ANNUAL REVENUE RESULTING IN THIS NEW AGREEMENT
03:30:12PM AND ASSUMPTIONS USED IN THE ESTIMATE, AND ANY OTHER
03:30:16PM PART-TIME MEANT DETAILS THAT I MAY NOT BE ASKING FOR RIGHT
03:30:18PM NOW, BUT YOU ALREADY KNOW IT EXISTS THAT WILL BE HELPFUL AS
03:30:22PM WELL BY NOVEMBER 7.
03:30:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:30:26PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:30:27PM YOU CAN HAND THEM TO THE CLERK.
03:30:31PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE ONE MORE.
03:30:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:30:35PM OPPOSED.
03:30:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: A MOTION FROM STAFF FOR A FIVE-MINUTE
03:30:42PM REPORT FOR A MARKET FEASIBILITY STUDY OF THE CONVENTION
03:30:46PM PERFORMED BY SPORTS AND LEISURE INTERNATIONAL LCC.
03:30:50PM SIX-MONTH CONTRACT.
03:30:52PM I REQUEST THAT THE DATE FOR THE BRINGS BE APRIL 17, 2025.
03:30:57PM THIS WILL GIVE US TIME TO CONSIDER ANY POTENTIAL IMPACTS FOR
03:31:00PM FISCAL YEAR 2026.
03:31:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:31:04PM SECONDED FROM VIERA.
03:31:05PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:31:06PM OPPOSED.
03:31:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
03:31:08PM AND KUDOS TO OUR FINANCIAL ANALYSTS FOR SUPPORTING AND
03:31:13PM HELPING WITH THAT.
03:31:14PM OKAY, HERE IS THE OTHER ONE.
03:31:16PM OKAY.
03:31:17PM WELL, LET ME DO THE EASY ONE.
03:31:19PM THIS IS EASIER.
03:31:20PM EAST TAMPA.
03:31:23PM YOU KNOW, WE -- WE MOVED THE SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM
03:31:28PM OUT OF CRA FUNDS.
03:31:29PM I WOULD LIKE A STAFF REPORT REGARDING THE UPCOMING SUMMER
03:31:33PM YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM ON JANUARY 9, 2025 IN A STAFF
03:31:37PM REPORT.
03:31:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND
03:31:41PM --
03:31:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WRITTEN?
03:31:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: A STAFF REPORT.
03:31:46PM STAFF REPORT WRITTEN AND VERBAL.
03:31:48PM I LIKE VERBAL, BUT I WILL TAKE A WRITTEN ONE, GUESS.
03:31:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT --
03:31:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU KNOW WHAT, I WILL TAKE VERBAL BECAUSE
03:31:57PM -- THIS IS IMPORTANT -- YOU KNOW MY COMMUNITY, THEY HEAR --
03:32:00PM THEY LIKE TO HEAR.
03:32:01PM SO LET'S JUST DO IT VERBAL.
03:32:03PM AND IN A WRITTEN STAFF REPORT.
03:32:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
03:32:06PM WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND
03:32:08PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:32:09PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY, THANK YOU.
03:32:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WAS THE SECOND.
03:32:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS.
03:32:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:32:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GIRL POWER.
03:32:19PM OKAY, HERE IS ANOTHER ONE.
03:32:21PM MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN ARTS AND CULTURAL
03:32:24PM CENTER IS BEING PURSUED BY THE COUNTY ON CITY'S LAND.
03:32:27PM I UNDERSTAND IT IS MOVING FORWARD.
03:32:29PM SOME -- THAT WE ARE NOT DUPLICATING AND MAKING -- WE WANT TO
03:32:34PM MAKE SURE THAT WE TRULY MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
03:32:37PM I WANT TO REQUEST -- I AM CIRCLING BACK TO THE
03:32:41PM YELLOWJACKETS.
03:32:41PM I AM BUILDING THIS HERE.
03:32:42PM TIME REQUESTING THAT STAFF BEGIN SPEAKING TO THE RELATED
03:32:45PM GROUP TO REVISE THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT, BECAUSE WE
03:32:48PM DON'T NEED TWO CULTURAL CENTERS ON THE 120 ACRE THERE IS
03:32:53PM THAT WILL BE NEXT DOOR SO -- PER THE EXISTING COMMUNITY
03:32:58PM BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
03:33:00PM IT IS, IN THERE THAT THEY ARE BUILDING A CULTURAL CENTER.
03:33:04PM IF THE COUNTY IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THEIRS, WE CAN LOOK AT
03:33:06PM THAT AND SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH THOSE FUNDS INCLUDING
03:33:09PM FACILITY AND PARK UPGRADES WHERE THE DISPLACED YELLOWJACKETS
03:33:12PM NOW RESIDE.
03:33:13PM OH, LET ME BRING -- ON -- AND ALSO, CAN I INCLUDE THIS IN
03:33:20PM IT, YOU KNOW, SO -- ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT THE -- THE
03:33:27PM REQUESTED UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF RELEASING THE REVERTER
03:33:31PM CLAUSE.
03:33:31PM BECAUSE THERE IS A REVERTER CLAUSE THAT THE LAND --
03:33:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
03:33:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOVEMBER 7 THAT DATE.
03:33:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:33:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A QUESTION.
03:33:43PM YOU ARE ASKING FOR STAFF TO COME BACK AND GIVE US --
03:33:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GIVE US A STAFF REPORT.
03:33:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OPTIONS ON THE STAFF REPORT.
03:33:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE TO RELEASE THAT REVERTER ON THAT
03:33:53PM LAND AND THEY ARE --
03:33:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN'T DEMAND THEM ANYTHING.
03:33:57PM HENDERSON-IT IS OUR CITY -- OUR PROPERTY.
03:34:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS.
03:34:02PM WE SIGNED AN AGREEMENT.
03:34:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHEN DID WE SIGN THE AGREEMENT.
03:34:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
03:34:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WITH THE RELATED GROUP.
03:34:13PM THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUILD THE COMMUNITY CENTER IF -- IF WE
03:34:16PM ARE GOING TO GIVE THE CURRENT LAND WHERE THE REVERTER CLAUSE
03:34:19PM IS WHERE THEY ARE PURSUING A CULTURAL CENTER.
03:34:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GET IT.
03:34:24PM I GET 100% WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO.
03:34:27PM I WANT THE WORDS RIGHT.
03:34:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ME TOO.
03:34:30PM THIS ONE IS EMOTIONAL SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET IT RIGHT,
03:34:34PM MR. CARLSON.
03:34:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY ONLY QUESTION, WILL THAT BE ENOUGH TIME?
03:34:38PM HAVE YOU WORKED WITH STAFF ON THIS?
03:34:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ALREADY -- REMEMBER, I MADE A MOTION
03:34:43PM BEFORE AND MISS FEELEY CAME BACK AND SAID THAT RELATED GROUP
03:34:46PM IS NOT OBLIGATED, BUT -- BUT IF THIS COMMUNITY CULTURAL
03:34:51PM CENTER IS PART OF THE COUNTY'S PURSUIT, YOU KNOW, THEN
03:34:55PM CONVERSATIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN HAD.
03:34:57PM EVEN IF IT IS JUST -- EVEN SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THOUGHT
03:35:03PM PROCESS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ON NOVEMBER 7 AND MAKE A
03:35:06PM MOTION.
03:35:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:35:09PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:35:10PM ANY OPPOSED?
03:35:12PM YES, MA'AM.
03:35:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I ALSO WANT A MOTION FOR STAFF TO BRING
03:35:16PM BACK AN AMENDMENT TO THE SIGN CODE, A DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR
03:35:19PM DISCUSSION THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR LARGE FORMAT MEDIA WITHIN
03:35:22PM THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT ON A LIMITED BASIS ON OCTOBER
03:35:26PM 17, 2024.
03:35:27PM I CAN GIVE YOU ALL SOME INFORMATION AND BACKGROUND ABOUT
03:35:31PM THAT IF I CAN GET A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
03:35:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
03:35:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
03:35:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS.
03:35:39PM SO FOR.
03:35:39PM GIVE ME.
03:35:40PM WHEN YOU SAY LARGE FORMAT -- YOU KNOW THE CITY HAS A
03:35:44PM BILLBOARD ORDINANCE.
03:35:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: A DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR DISCUSSION.
03:35:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE SAYING A "DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR
03:35:52PM DISCUSSION."
03:35:53PM A LOT OF WORK THANK GO INTO THE A CREATION OF A DRAFT
03:35:56PM ORDINANCE.
03:35:56PM DO YOU WANT AN INITIAL STAFF REPORT.
03:36:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ARE WORKING ON THAT PART OF.
03:36:02PM WHEN STAFF COMES BACK, THEY WILL HAVE INFORMATION TO PRESENT
03:36:05PM TO US.
03:36:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE TALKED -- YOU TALKED WITH THEM SO
03:36:07PM YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME?
03:36:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
03:36:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:36:14PM >> EXCUSE ME --
03:36:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HERE IS ANOTHER THING.
03:36:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: UH-OH.
03:36:20PM MISS FEELEY.
03:36:21PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT MOTION IS FOR OCTOBER 17.
03:36:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
03:36:26PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT IS 14 DAYS.
03:36:27PM I CANNOT DO THAT IN 14 DAYS.
03:36:29PM THAT IS A HUGE ASK.
03:36:31PM I AM SORRY.
03:36:32PM BUT 14 DAYS IS JUST NOT PRACTICAL GIVEN THE SITUATION WE ARE
03:36:36PM IN AND THE CODE UPDATE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS GOING ON.
03:36:39PM I WOULD REALLY VALUE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK THROUGH THAT
03:36:43PM MOTION A LITTLE BIT FURTHER WITH YOU.
03:36:45PM BUT I CANNOT DO THAT.
03:36:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DOING IT NOW OR -- WE WILL HAVE TO PUSH
03:36:51PM IT BACK, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS IF WE DON'T DO IT NOW.
03:36:54PM WE HAVE SOME LEGWORK INFORMATION.
03:36:56PM AND AT LEAST LOOK AT IT OCTOBER 17 AND COME BACK WITH IT IF
03:37:00PM YOU CAN'T.
03:37:00PM IF YOU LOOK WHAT IS BEING PROVIDED THAT WILL GIVE YOU AN
03:37:03PM OPPORTUNITY SAY SO AT LEAST LOOK CAN AT THE INFORMATION.
03:37:08PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: TWO YEARS RESPECTFULLY COUNCILWOMAN, BUT I
03:37:13PM NEED MORE THAN TWO WEEKS TO LOOK AT THAT FOR YOU.
03:37:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ISSUE IS --
03:37:18PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: FOR NOVEMBER, SOME TIME IN THERE, I WOULD
03:37:21PM REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
03:37:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ISSUE IS, THEY HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING
03:37:25PM FOR ON BASE TOMORROW FOR OCTOBER 17.
03:37:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FOR OCTOBER 17.
03:37:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DRAFT AN ORDINANCE INVOLVES LEGAL AND I
03:37:34PM WILL SHARE YOU WITH -- AND IN MY TIME HERE, THE SIGN CODE --
03:37:39PM REVISIONS TO THE SIGN CODE HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY
03:37:42PM CONTROVERSIAL.
03:37:43PM AND -- AND INVOLVING LITIGATION.
03:37:46PM AND INVOLVING A LOT OF LEGAL ISSUES AS WELL.
03:37:49PM AND A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL.
03:37:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
03:37:52PM WE HAVE A LOT OF MOMENTUM RIGHT NOW.
03:37:55PM THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY.
03:37:56PM BUT -- THE DATE -- DECEMBER 5?
03:38:05PM OKAY.
03:38:06PM LET'S GO FOR DECEMBER 5.
03:38:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:38:09PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:38:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
03:38:11PM THIS IS ABOUT THE BIG SIGNS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?
03:38:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AM NOT TALKING OF TIMES SQUARE, BUT BIG
03:38:18PM SIGNS.
03:38:18PM I AM TALKING OF BIG SIGNS.
03:38:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- IS CORRECT.
03:38:24PM IT TOOK A YEAR OR MORE.
03:38:26PM WE PROBABLY SETTLED FOUR FOR ONE, TAKE FOUR OF THE WOODEN
03:38:31PM ONE YOU GET ONE OF THE BLINKER, EXPENSIVE ONES THAT CHANGE
03:38:34PM EVERY 20 SECONDS.
03:38:35PM THAT IS HOW IT WAS THEN.
03:38:36PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW.
03:38:37PM I WOULD IMAGINE THE SAME ORDINANCE IN THE BOOKS NOW.
03:38:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND WAS CLENDENIN.
03:38:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AN OPPORTUNITY TO --
03:38:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM JUST SAYING IT TOOK A LONG TIME.
03:38:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM KIND OF FAMILIAR WELL THIS CONCEPT
03:38:55PM AND PART IS REVENUE ENHANCEMENT.
03:38:58PM OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY LIKE GARAGES TO DO SOME ART
03:39:02PM INSTALLATION ALONG WITH ADVERTISING.
03:39:05PM I THINK AT LEAST IT IS WORTH HAVING THE DISCUSSION.
03:39:08PM WHERE IT LANDS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS.
03:39:10PM I AGREE HE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:39:11PM IT IS WORTH HAVING THE CONVERSATION.
03:39:14PM DECEMBER 5 IS A WIDE-OPEN DATE.
03:39:17PM MISS FEELEY DOES THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME.
03:39:20PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: DECEMBER 5 WILL BE FAR MORE PALATABLE, THANK
03:39:25PM YOU.
03:39:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:39:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE CONCEPT WHEN IT COMES
03:39:30PM UP.
03:39:30PM BUT MOST CITIES NOW HAVE IN THEIR DOWNTOWN AREA SOME LIGHTED
03:39:35PM AREA, LIKE, YOU MENTIONED ONE, BUT PICADILLY CIRCUS.
03:39:40PM ALMOST EVERY CITY HAS ONE.
03:39:41PM AND THERE IS MUCH FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND -- AND PLACEMAKING
03:39:46PM AS THEY ARE -- BECAUSE YOU SHOW -- LIKE THIS IS THE -- THIS
03:39:49PM IS THE CENTER OR A COMMUNITY CENTER OF DOWNTOWN.
03:39:53PM SO IT IS NOT JUST PUTTING UP A POLE WITH LIGHTED SIGNS.
03:39:57PM IT IS ACTUALLY PLACEMAKING.
03:39:59PM SO WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT.
03:40:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOT EXACTLY LIKE TIMES SQUARE.
03:40:05PM NOT LIGHT IT UP LIKE THAT.
03:40:07PM DOWNTOWN IS A GREAT DESTINATION PLACE FOR US.
03:40:09PM WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO BE -- TO REDEVELOP AND FIND WAYS TO
03:40:13PM ENHANCE IT.
03:40:13PM AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADJUST THE CODE OF LARGE
03:40:18PM FORMAT.
03:40:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:40:20PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:40:21PM OPPOSED?
03:40:22PM ANYTHING ELSE?
03:40:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S IT.
03:40:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR?
03:40:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DO.
03:40:27PM MISS FEELEY -- IF SHE IS HANGING OUT.
03:40:30PM BE THIS IS DIRECTED TO HER.
03:40:32PM I MOTION THAT STAFF PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT ON EMERGENCY
03:40:36PM RULES THAT WILL FACILITATE THE REPAIR AND CONSTRUCTION OF
03:40:42PM NONCONFORMING LOTS IMPACTED BY THE NATURAL DISASTER.
03:40:46PM A FULL SCHEDULE AND ASKING FOR A WRITTEN REPORT.
03:40:48PM I KNOW THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A CONVERSATION ON OCTOBER
03:40:51PM 17.
03:40:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS TWO WEEKS.
03:40:54PM YOU ARE LOOKING AT NOVEMBER 5.
03:40:56PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT IS TOMORROW.
03:40:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I -- MISS FEELEY, ARE YOU GUYS ALREADY
03:41:01PM LOOKING AT THIS?
03:41:07PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IN TERMS OF NONCONFORMING LOTS?
03:41:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH --
03:41:11PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: STRUCTURES THAT HAVE BEEN DESTROYED IN
03:41:14PM EXCESS OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT?
03:41:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHEN PEOPLE HAVE TO DO SUBSTANTIVE REPAIRS
03:41:19PM AND BE ABLE TO BUILD ON SETBACKS AND -- SO LET'S -- LET'S
03:41:23PM SAY NOVEMBER 7.
03:41:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS GOOD.
03:41:26PM A MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:41:27PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:41:28PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE -- WAIT --
03:41:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM GOING TO SAY THAT MAYBE YOU SHOULD REACH
03:41:34PM OUT AND TALK TO MISS FEELEY BEFOREHAND -- NOT BEFORE BUT
03:41:38PM DURING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
03:41:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM HAPPY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, BUT
03:41:43PM I THINK IT IS -- AGAIN, BECAUSE WE ARE COMING OUT OF A
03:41:45PM NATURAL DISASTER.
03:41:46PM I HAVE JUST BEEN HEARING CONCERNS.
03:41:48PM MAYBE THERE IS NOTHING THERE.
03:41:49PM MAYBE SOMETHING THERE.
03:41:51PM THAT IS WHY I ASKED FOR A WRITTEN REPORT TOO.
03:41:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, THAT IS KIND OF WHY WE NEED TO HAVE A
03:41:56PM -- A WORKSHOP ON THIS INSTEAD OF PIECEMEAL IT, KIND OF LOOK
03:42:00PM AT IT ALL TOGETHER.
03:42:02PM BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT GO BELONGING WITH THIS,
03:42:05PM BECAUSE THERE IS FEMA REGULATIONS.
03:42:06PM THERE IS INSURANCE REGULATIONS.
03:42:09PM THERE IS SO MUCH TIED TO -- BECAUSE MISS FEELEY AND I -- WE
03:42:13PM WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A 30-MINUTE MEETING AND ENDED UP WITH
03:42:17PM AN HOUR-LONG MEETING BECAUSE WE GOT INTO THESE IDEAS.
03:42:20PM I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TALK TO HER ABOUT IT.
03:42:23PM AND TALK TO HER ABOUT WHERE WE CAN -- I THINK WE SHOULD COME
03:42:27PM BACK NEXT THURSDAY EVENING WITH A TIME AND TOPICS FOR THIS.
03:42:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAKE SAYING.
03:42:35PM MY THING IS -- I THINK THE CITY WISELY -- WHEN THEY WAIVED
03:42:40PM -- MISS FEELEY, IF YOU ARE A PART OF THAT WAIVING PERMIT
03:42:45PM KNEES.
03:42:45PM WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A DISASTER.
03:42:47PM LONG-RANGE STRATEGIC PLANNING AND LESSONS LEARNED.
03:42:51PM BUT THIS IS SHORT-TERM.
03:42:54PM REALLY SHORT-TERM.
03:42:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EMERGENCY REPAIR AND REBUILDING.
03:42:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EMERGENCY RULES.
03:42:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT, AGAIN, EMERGENCY RULES STILL HAVE TO
03:43:01PM APPROVE WITH FEMA.
03:43:02PM THEY STILL HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY INSURANCE COMPANIES.
03:43:05PM SO THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF CONVERSATION THAT GOES ALONG
03:43:08PM WITH THIS.
03:43:08PM I SAW POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA FROM SOMEONE BE IN FORT MYERS
03:43:13PM WHO SAID THAT THEY DID THIS.
03:43:14PM AND NOW FEMA IS NOT PAYING FOR THINGS BECAUSE IT WASN'T DONE
03:43:19PM CORRECTLY.
03:43:19PM AND IT -- IT IS SERIOUS.
03:43:22PM SOME THAT'S WHY I AM SAYING IT IS PART OF A MUCH LARGER
03:43:25PM DISCUSSION.
03:43:25PM I DON'T DISAGREE THAT WE NEED TO GET IT DONE.
03:43:28PM I DON'T KNOW THAT NOVEMBER 7 IS THE TIME -- I THINK -- I
03:43:32PM THINK WE NEED A LARGER, BROADER DISCUSSION FOCUSSED ON ALL
03:43:37PM OF THESE THINGS.
03:43:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET ME REREAD WHAT I SAID BECAUSE I DON'T
03:43:41PM THINK IT IS CONTRARY TO WHAT YOU SAID.
03:43:43PM MOTION FOR STAFF TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT OF POTENTIAL
03:43:46PM EMERGENCY RULES THAT WILL FACILITATE THE RESTORATION AND
03:43:49PM REPAIRS ON STRUCTURES ON PRESENTLY NONCONFORMING LOTS
03:43:55PM AFFECTED BY THE DISASTER.
03:43:57PM I DON'T THINK THAT IS CONTRADICTORY.
03:43:59PM HAVING THEM GOING BACK AND LOOK AT IT THE AND MAYBE THEY
03:44:03PM WILL COME BACK WITH EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID.
03:44:05PM AS SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, FELL IN COME BACK TO TELL US HERE
03:44:09PM IS THE X, Y, AND Z.
03:44:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE WORD "POTENTIAL."
03:44:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IN BY THE OCTOBER --
03:44:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SHE IS A SMART WOMAN.
03:44:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SHE IS DOING SIX PEOPLE'S JOBS.
03:44:27PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: MAY I ASK FOR -- JUST FOR IS A COUPLE OF
03:44:30PM ADDITIONAL WEEKS ON THAT.
03:44:31PM I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR.
03:44:33PM IN FACT, WE JUST HAD A MEETING WITH FEMA AT 2:30.
03:44:37PM THIS IS A VERY FLUID ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW IN TRYING TO GET
03:44:41PM OUR HOMEOWNERS AND OUR RENTERS FIRST, YOU KNOW, STABLY
03:44:46PM HOUSED AND SECOND TO BE ABLE TO START APPLYING FOR FEMA.
03:44:50PM AND WHERE YOU SAY POTENTIAL EMERGENCY, I DON'T KNOW THAT I
03:44:58PM HAVE TIME FOR POTENTIAL RIGHT NOW.
03:45:01PM I AM WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SETTING UP THESE
03:45:03PM POLICIES RIGHT NOW SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE WALKING IN TO THE
03:45:08PM POP-UP PERMIT CENTERS TODAY, THEY HAVE THAT ANSWER.
03:45:11PM SOME IF -- IF YOU --
03:45:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU EXACTLY WHAT YOU
03:45:15PM JUST ASKED FOR ON NOVEMBER 21.
03:45:17PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:45:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN
03:45:22PM HENDERSON.
03:45:22PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:45:22PM ANYTHING ELSE?
03:45:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S IT.
03:45:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:45:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:45:28PM AND I HAVE ALREADY TALKED TO MISS FEELEY ABOUT THIS.
03:45:31PM I MOVE TO HAVE DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FEELEY INCLUDE IN HER
03:45:36PM DECEMBER 5, 2024 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE, THE TOP TEN
03:45:41PM WAIVERS THAT ARE GRANTED BY CITY COUNCIL.
03:45:43PM WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND SHE SAID SHE
03:45:46PM COULD HAVE THAT BY THE 5th OF DECEMBER.
03:45:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
03:45:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:45:51PM OPPOSED.
03:45:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY OTHER THING.
03:45:54PM I ASKED FOR A WRITTEN REPORT ABOUT THE PARKING LOTS -- I AM
03:45:59PM GOING TO READ IT.
03:45:59PM THIS IN LIEU OF THE FIVE-YEAR REPORT ON THE MONITORING OF
03:46:05PM PARKING YBOR CITY AND GETTING PARKING LOTS IN COMPLIANCE.
03:46:09PM I MOVE TO HAVE STAFF PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT ON OCTOBER 17
03:46:13PM -- OH, MA MIGHT BE TOO -- YEAH, THAT MIGHT BE TOO -- HOW
03:46:17PM ABOUT NOVEMBER -- A WRITTEN REPORT ON NOVEMBER 7 ON WHERE
03:46:21PM THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING --
03:46:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:46:26PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:46:28PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:46:29PM OPPOSED?
03:46:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE MORE THING.
03:46:33PM WHEN WE COME BACK NEXT THURSDAY, I THINK WE ALL NEED TO COME
03:46:38PM WITH THE FOCUS AREAS WE WANT TO DISCUSS FOR THE HURRICANE.
03:46:40PM I THINK WE NEED TO COME UP WITH DATES.
03:46:43PM I PROMISE YOU I WILL BRING MY PHONE ON TO THE DAIS TO LOOK
03:46:47PM ON MY CALENDAR BECAUSE I NEVER HAVE IT.
03:46:49PM THIS IS VERY SERIOUS AND WE ALL SHOULD CONSIDER OTHER DAYS.
03:46:53PM I FEEL LIKE THIS WILL BE A DAY-LONG DISCUSSION.
03:46:56PM IT IS THE BEGINNING OF SOMETHING, BUT WE HAVE TO REALLY LOOK
03:47:01PM AT WHAT WICK -- WHAT WE CAN TO DO HARDEN OUR CITY.
03:47:08PM FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS.
03:47:10PM SO MUCH.
03:47:10PM I KNOW WE ALREADY HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF -- YEAH, ANYWAY.
03:47:14PM I WILL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
03:47:16PM I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SETTING THAT MEETING NEXT THURSDAY
03:47:19PM NIGHT.
03:47:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE SHOULD BRAINSTORM THE IDEA.
03:47:23PM I THINK US HAVING THE CONVERSATION IS US CHASING OUR TAIL
03:47:27PM BECAUSE SO MUCH OF THIS IS STAFF DRIVEN AND ADMINISTRATION
03:47:32PM DRIVEN.
03:47:33PM ALMOST HAVING LIKE A HURRICANE RETREAT WITH THE SUBJECT
03:47:35PM MATTER EXPERTS FROM STAFF TO SIT AROUND AND BRAINSTORM IDEAS
03:47:40PM I THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
03:47:41PM AND NOT NECESSARILY TIME CRITICAL BECAUSE STORMS AREN'T
03:47:46PM GOING AWAY.
03:47:46PM AS CHARLIE MIRANDA SAID IT MANY TIMES WE HAVE AFFECTED THE
03:47:54PM CLIMATE.
03:47:54PM AND I THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.
03:47:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I LIKE THAT OF INCLUDING STAFF.
03:47:58PM COME UP WITH YOUR LIST AND WE CAN ALL PUT A LIST IN
03:48:02PM TOGETHER.
03:48:02PM TRYING TO FIND A DATE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
03:48:04PM YOU ARE RIGHT, MAYBE JANUARY, MAYBE AHEAD.
03:48:07PM BUT ALSO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN THE SHORT TERM.
03:48:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LESSONS LEARNED.
03:48:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LESSONS LEARNED.
03:48:15PM I DON'T THINK THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO BE SUPER -- I MEAN --
03:48:19PM EVERYONE WAS DOING THE BEST THEY COULD.
03:48:21PM NOT TIME TO BE SUPER CRITICAL.
03:48:24PM THIS IS A TIME TO SAY THIS DIDN'T WORK, I THINK WE SHOULD DO
03:48:28PM THIS INSTEAD.
03:48:29PM TO LISTEN TO OUR STAFF.
03:48:30PM I DIDN'T HAVE THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
03:48:34PM WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH FINANCE.
03:48:36PM I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND THE
03:48:39PM PUBLIC SAYING WHAT THEM NEED.
03:48:40PM THIS WILL BE A FRUITFUL DISCUSSION WHEN WE HAVE IT.
03:48:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
03:48:44PM ANYTHING ELSE?
03:48:46PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
03:48:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I -- AGREE THAT -- I AGREE THAT WE
03:48:59PM SHOULD HAVE AN OFF-SITE -- I AGREE WE SHOULD HAVE AN
03:49:03PM OFF-SITE DAY-LONG CONVERSATION OF HURRICANES.
03:49:06PM ONE OF THE THINGS HAS TO BE THAT -- WHAT IS THE ROLE OF
03:49:12PM COUNCIL.
03:49:13PM I HAD A LONG CONVERSATION WITH THE MAY I DON'T REMEMBER LAST
03:49:15PM NIGHT.
03:49:15PM WE HAD A PUBLIC DISCUSSION A COUPLE OF TIMES AFTER
03:49:19PM HURRICANES.
03:49:19PM BUT THE VERY LEAST, WHY DON'T OUR AIDES HAVE THE SAME
03:49:24PM INFORMATION THAT THE CALL CENTER HAS, I THINK THE
03:49:27PM ADMINISTRATION IS OPEN TO THAT.
03:49:29PM BUT RIGHT NOW THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT -- THAT NEED TO GET
03:49:31PM INFORMATION FROM US.
03:49:32PM AND WHEN I WORK ON RECOVERY PROJECTS FOR OTHER CLIENTS, WE
03:49:36PM GET A FAQ.
03:49:37PM WE GET A TALKING POINT THING.
03:49:39PM WE GIVE THEM FLYERS TO HAND OUT.
03:49:40PM TODAY AT MEETING, KATHY CASTOR WAS HANDING OUT FLYERS TO
03:49:45PM GIVE TO PEOPLE.
03:49:46PM WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO HAND TO PEOPLE.
03:49:48PM WHEN TALKING TO PEOPLE, WE NEED THAT.
03:49:49PM WHAT IS COUNCIL'S ROLE HAS TO BE A PART OF THAT.
03:49:53PM I THINK THAT -- I THINK THERE IS A SEPARATE CONVERSATION,
03:49:57PM THOUGH, ABOUT -- BEEN -- THERE IS A LOT WE MAY HAVE OTHER
03:50:06PM KINDS OF EQUIPMENT THAT ARE IMMUNE TO BE HURRICANES.
03:50:16PM AND STORM SURGES SHOULD BE IS ANTICIPATE RAT DISCUSSION AND
03:50:19PM COUNCIL DRIVEN AND NOT STAFF DRIVEN.
03:50:21PM I RAN INTO WIT, HE WILL BE WILLING TO BE PARTICIPATE.
03:50:26PM BUT I WOULD WELCOME A SEPARATE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
03:50:28PM WE READ OF ALL THE SUBJECTS.
03:50:33PM I MAKE A MOTION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO DISCUSSION AS TO
03:50:38PM LOCK TERM SOLUTIONS OF FLOODING AND STORM SURGE OF THE
03:50:43PM JANUARY 30.
03:50:44PM PAST HURRICANE SEASON AND WE WILL HAVE THE DISCUSSION OTHER
03:50:48PM THAN THEM.
03:50:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHY CAN'T -- WHY CAN'T WE JUST COMBINE IT
03:50:53PM TOGETHER.
03:50:54PM IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING -- OH, WE HAVE A BUNCH ON THAT
03:50:56PM DAY.
03:50:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THERE IS THE KIND OF TACTICAL
03:51:01PM RESPONSE STUFF THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
03:51:03PM ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT HAPPENED ON THIS.
03:51:06PM NEVER HAVE A HUGE DISCUSSION.
03:51:08PM AND IT TOOK A COUPLE OF DAYS TO PIVOT IN DISCOVERY WE HAD A
03:51:18PM PROCESS IN A NORMAL HURRICANE THAT WORKS VERY WELL BUT WE
03:51:21PM NEEDED TO PIVOT.
03:51:22PM THE OTHER THING THAT DIDN'T PIVOT AS WELL, COMMUNICATING TO
03:51:26PM PEOPLE THAT THEIR HOUSE WERE GOING TO FLOOD.
03:51:28PM YOU DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THE DETAILS NOW, I CAN SHOW IT
03:51:31PM AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS.
03:51:32PM WE HAVE TO TALK OF COMMUNICATION.
03:51:34PM VERY CLEAR IF YOU AT THE TEXT MESSAGES, THE FACEBOOK PAGES
03:51:39PM POSTS, AND THE TWITTER POSTS.
03:51:41PM MENTION OF STORM SURGE, BUT THE MAIN FEEDBACK EVERYBODY GAVE
03:51:46PM US THEY HAD WE HAD NO IDEA IT WAS GOING TO BE LIKE THIS THEY
03:51:51PM CRY WOLF EVERY TIME WITH THE STORM SURGE.
03:51:54PM THOSE ARE THE MESSAGES -- I WON'T GO UP AND SHOW IT, BUT A
03:51:57PM MAP POSTED BY ANDY JOHNSON IF YOUR HOUSE IS IN YELLOW, IT IS
03:52:01PM GOING TO GET FLOODED.
03:52:02PM IT WAS KIND OF IN ONE COUNTY POSTS THAT THE CITY DID, THIS
03:52:06PM MAP SHOULD HAVE BEEN POSTED TO EVERY AND OVER AGAIN.
03:52:09PM SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE DIGITALLY PROMOTED.
03:52:13PM AS SOON AS I REPOST IT -- ANDY JOHNSON IS A FORMER
03:52:17PM METEOROLOGIST.
03:52:18PM AS SOON AS I REPOST IT, THREE FRIENDS CALLED ME AND SAID I
03:52:23PM AM GETTING OUT OF TOWN.
03:52:24PM IF YOU KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, YOU COULD GET YOUR
03:52:26PM TESLA OUT OF THE GARAGE -- TESLA IS ANOTHER THING WE HAVE TO
03:52:30PM TALK ABOUT.
03:52:30PM I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW -- HOW WE CAN -- AND
03:52:34PM CONTINUE IS IT NOT BEING CRITICAL, BUT HOW WE WILL RESPOND
03:52:37PM TO SITUATIONS THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE ONES WE
03:52:40PM EXPERIENCED BEFORE.
03:52:40PM HOW WE CAN COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC EFFECTIVELY AND REALLY
03:52:44PM EXPECT WHAT IS HAPPENING.
03:52:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, CAN I MAKE A
03:52:48PM SUGGESTION.
03:52:48PM MAY 25 -- SORRY, MAY 22, A CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP AND NOTHING
03:52:53PM ON IT.
03:52:54PM IF WE BACK COMPLETELY OUT AND CALLED THAT -- THAT COULD BE
03:52:57PM OUR HURRICANE WORKSHOP.
03:52:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY CONCERN THEY ARE KNEE-DEEP IN BUDGET
03:53:04PM DISCUSSIONS FOR FY '26 ALREADY.
03:53:07PM I FEEL LIKE WHICH NEED TO HAVE THIS JANUARY AND FEBRUARY SO
03:53:09PM THEY ARE GOING INTO THE BUDGET CYCLE KNOWING WHAT WE WANT TO
03:53:13PM SEE.
03:53:13PM SO, AGAIN, I THINK THAT THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING A
03:53:17PM TUESDAY WORKSHOP ON THIS DURING THE DAY.
03:53:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT IS WORTH HAVING IT.
03:53:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WANT TO SCHEDULE A SEPARATE SESSION.
03:53:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FEBRUARY IS FULL.
03:53:31PM MARCH DOESN'T HAVE ONE.
03:53:32PM APRIL IS OPEN, BUT, AGAIN, THAT'S --
03:53:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S THINK OF IT BETWEEN NOW AND
03:53:37PM THURSDAY.
03:53:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK WE JUST DO THAT.
03:53:39PM I AGREE, I THINK WE ALL -- I THINK WE ARE ALL TALKING OF
03:53:43PM SPENDING A DAY.
03:53:43PM I MEAN --
03:53:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SEPARATE DAY, A NEW DAY.
03:53:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK WE DO LIKE YOU SAID, LIKE A RETREAT.
03:53:51PM WE HAVE LUNCH.
03:53:52PM WE COME BACK --
03:53:55PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AT THE RIVER CENTER.
03:53:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HEAR THEY HAVE GOOD CATERING.
03:54:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO LAST THINGS.
03:54:05PM WHEN PEOPLE THINK THEY FEEL LIKE WE ARE NOT HELPING THEM.
03:54:10PM THE MAYOR TOLD ME THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO WE
03:54:14PM ARE.
03:54:14PM IF WE CAN SHOW UP IN A COORDINATED WAY WE CAN COVER MORE
03:54:18PM TERRITORY AND NOT HAPHAZARD.
03:54:20PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WE WEREN'T ALL ALLOWED TO SAY SOMETHING
03:54:25PM EARLIER.
03:54:26PM I AM PROUD.
03:54:27PM I WAS SEVEN WHEN YOU STARTED WORKING.
03:54:29PM AND I GREW UP -- LIKE GUIDO -- HE IS A LOT YOUNGER THAN ME.
03:54:33PM I GREW UP WATCHING YOU AND BOB MARTINEZ AND OTHERS AND SANDY
03:54:37PM FREEMAN.
03:54:37PM AND TO BE IN THE SAME ROOM WITH YOU ALL SOMETIMES -- I TOLD
03:54:40PM YOU THIS BEFORE -- SOMETIMES LOOKING ACROSS, I PINCH MYSELF
03:54:43PM THINKING, WOW, YOU KNOW, I AM SITTING AT THE SAME DAIS AS
03:54:47PM CHARLIE MIRANDA.
03:54:48PM AND I LIKE LEARNING FROM YOU.
03:54:50PM I LIKE YOUR -- INSIGHTS YOU HAVE.
03:54:55PM PEOPLE ASK ME HOW IS HE DOING.
03:54:57PM HIS HEALTH.
03:54:58PM I SAY AT 38 OR --
03:55:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 28.
03:55:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: BETTER HEALTH THAN ALL OF US.
03:55:10PM 3:00 IN THE MORNING YOU ARE PROBABLY THE SHARPEST ONCE UP
03:55:13PM HERE AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
03:55:14PM EVERYTHING IS DELIBERATE.
03:55:16PM I DON'T ALWAYS AGREE YOU WITH.
03:55:17PM YOU DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH ME.
03:55:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH MYSELF.
03:55:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: FIVE YEARS I HAVE BEEN WRITING DOWN
03:55:24PM CHARLIEISMS LIKE THE ONE -- I WISH SOMEBODY -- WE COULD
03:55:28PM COLLECT THEM AND -- SOME OF THE THINGS YOU SAID ARE THE
03:55:30PM FUNNIEST -- 3:00 IN THE MORNING, NOTHING LIKE HEARING A
03:55:35PM CHARLIEISM.
03:55:37PM AN HONOR TO WORK YOU WITH.
03:55:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SAID I REALLY ENJOY WORKING WITH THIS
03:55:42PM COUNCIL.
03:55:43PM SO DIFFERENT.
03:55:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO SAY WHAT I SAID EARLIER.
03:55:48PM HE RUN ON A SLOGAN THAT CHARLIE CARES AND HE SHARES HOW HE
03:55:51PM CAME UP WITH THAT SLOGAN TODAY AND HE SHARED HE WAS NAKED IN
03:55:54PM THE SHOWER.
03:55:54PM AND I AM GOING TO FILE SOME KIND OF PAPERWORK IT GET
03:55:58PM REIMBURSED TO THE CITY FOR THE THERAPY REQUIRED TO GET THAT
03:56:02PM IMAGE OUT --
03:56:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE MAKING ASSUMPTION I WAS NAKED IN
03:56:06PM THE SHOWER.
03:56:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SHOWERED FULLY CLOTHED.
03:56:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
03:56:11PM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:56:13PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:56:14PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:56:15PM ALL RIGHT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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